FanLax Forum Poll

[ICGrad]

Looks like DrunkMonkey voted for Duke twice; I imagine one of those was intended to be PSU, who he left off of his poll.

If I had to guess, fix that error and Penn State might slot above Cornell, where, IMO, they belong.

[Matnum PI]

Looks like DrunkMonkey voted for Duke twice; I imagine one of those was intended to be PSU, who he left off of his poll.

If I had to guess, fix that error and Penn State might slot above Cornell, where, IMO, they belong.

I agree with your assessment, made the changes, and... updated the image.. Looks better. And leapfrogged more than Cornell...

[HGK]

Seems from the silence everyone is comfortable where the aggregate vote came in? Not egregiously but I do think Denver at 10 is too high. I had them at 14 so not huge difference but think 10 is generous.

[rolldodge]

Seems from the silence everyone is comfortable where the aggregate vote came in? Not egregiously but I do think Denver at 10 is too high. I had them at 14 so not huge difference but think 10 is generous.

Denver, Syracuse, Delware too high. Boston U, Vermont, Air Force too low.

[drunkmonkey30]

Looks like DrunkMonkey voted for Duke twice; I imagine one of those was intended to be PSU, who he left off of his poll.

If I had to guess, fix that error and Penn State might slot above Cornell, where, IMO, they belong.

I agree with your assessment, made the changes, and... updated the image.. Looks better. And leapfrogged more than Cornell...

My Bad, used my phone this week. Thanks for correcting my error.

[Matnum PI]

Reminder: FanLax Forum Polls are due on Monday (Tomorrow) at noon EST. Enjoy this weekend's games. Forum Poll Link (with Submission Links towards the bottom of the page). All are welcome to submit a ranking.

As a heads-up, I won't be posting the Forum Polls until Monday evening.

[rolldodge]

1. Duke
2. ND
3. UVA
4. Penn State
5. Maryland
6. Cornell
7. Hopkins
8. Gtown
9. Yale
10. Penn
11. Boston U
12. Denver
13. Villanova
14. Vermont
15. Army
16. Rutgers
17. Jacksonville
18. Utah
19. Michigan
20. UMass
21. UNC
22. Syracuse
23. Air Force
24. St Josephs
25. Bryant
26. Princeton
27. Loyola
28. Richmond
29. Lehigh
30. Harvard




Top 5 RPI win = 6 points
Top 10 RPI win = 5 points
Top 20 RPI win = 4 points
Top 30 RPI win = 3 points
Top 40 RPI win = 2 points
All other wins = 1 point

Top 25 RPI loss = -1 points
All other losses = -2 points


(41/14=2.9285) Duke 12-2 Bellarmine (2), High Point (1), Denver (4), Penn (5), Syracuse (4), Loyola (2), UNC (4), Air Force(3), St Josephs(3), Virginia (6), Virginia (6), Syracuse (4) (Jacksonville -2, Notre Dame -1)

(32/11=2.9090 ) Notre Dame 9-2 Marquette (2), Cleveland State (1), Georgetown (5), Maryland (5), Ohio State (3), Michigan (4), Syracuse (4), Duke (6), UNC(4) (Virginia -1, Virginia -1)

(36/13=2.769) Virginia 10-3 Michigan (4), Harvard (2), Ohio State (3), Richmond (3), Hopkins(6), Towson (1), Notre Dame(6), UNC (4), Syracuse (4), ND (6) (Maryland -1, Duke -1, Duke -1)

(30/12=2.500) Penn State 9-3 Lafayette (1), Stony Brook(1), Yale (5), Penn (5), Cornell (5), Ohio State (3), Hopkins (6), Michigan(4), Rutgers(4) (Villanova -1, Marquette -2, Maryland -1)

(31/13=2.384) Maryland 9-4 Richmond (3), Syracuse (4), Princeton (4), Albany (2), Virginia (6), Penn State (6), Ohio State (3), Rutgers (4), Rutgers(4) (Loyola -2, Notre Dame -1, Michigan -1, Hopkins -1)

(30/13=2.307 Cornell 11-2 Albany (2), Lehigh (3), Hobart (1), Ohio State (3), Yale (5), Penn(5), Dartmouth (1), Marquette(2), Army (3), Brown (3), Princeton(4) (Penn State -1, Harvard -1)

(34/15=2.2667) Hopkins 11-4 Georgetown(5), Jacksonville (3), Utah (4), St Josephs (3), Syracuse (4), Delaware (2), Navy (2). Michigan(4), Rutgers(4), Ohio State (3), Maryland(5) (North Carolina -1, Loyola -2, UVA -1, Penn State -1)

(22/13=1.6923) Georgetown 10-3 Princeton (4), Richmond (3). High Point (1), Lehigh (3), Denver (4), Providence (1), Marquette (2), Loyola(2), St Johns (1), Villanova (4) (Hopkins -1, Penn -1, ND -1)

(19/12=1.5833) Yale 8-4 Villanova (4), UMass (3), Denver (4), BU (4), Dart(1), Brown(3), Albany(2), Harvard (2) (Penn State -1 Cornell -1, Princeton -1, Penn -1)

(16/12=1.333) Penn 7-5 Georgetown (5), St Joe’s (3), Princeton (4), Yale (5), Harvard (2), Dartmouth(1), Albany(2) (Duke -1, Penn State -1, Villanova -1, Cornell -1, Brown -2)

(17/13=1.3076) Boston U 10-3 Bryant (4), UMass (3), Colgate (1), Bucknell (1), Holy Cross (1), Harvard (2), Lafayette (1), Loyola (2), Lehigh (3), Army (3) (Vermont -1, Navy -2, Yale -1 )

(16/13=1.2307) Denver 9-4 Utah (4), Merrimack (1), UNC (4), Ohio State (3), Villanova (4), Towson(1), St Johns (1), Providence (1), Marquette (2) (Air Force -2, Duke -1, Yale -1, gtown -1)

(16/14=1.1428) Villanova 10-4 Penn State (6), Delaware (2), Hofstra (1), Drexel (1), Penn (5), Monmouth (1), Navy (1), St Johns (1), Providence(1), Marquette (2) (Yale -1, Brown -2, Denver -1, Gtown -1 )

(14/13=1.0769) Vermont 9-4 BU (4), Utah (4), NJIT 1, ALB (2), Merr (1). Bing (2), Bryant (4), UML(1), UMBC (2) (Cuse -1, Brown -2, Harvard -2, Mass -2)

(13/13=1.0000) Army. 10-3 Rutgers (4), Wagner (1), Mercer (1), Holy Cross (1), Lafayette (1), Lehigh (3), Loyola [2], Bucknell (1), Colgate (1), Navy(1) (Umass -1, Cornell -1, BU -1)

(13/14=0.9285) Rutgers 8-6 Marist (1), Stony Brook (1), St John’s (1), Loyola (2), Utah (4), Princeton (4), UMass (3), Michigan (4) (Army -1, Ohio State -2, hopkins -1, Maryland -1, Penn State -1, Maryland -1)

(12/15=0.80) Jacksonville 12-3 Marist (1), Duke (6), High Point (1), UMass Lowell (1), St Johns (1), Mercer (1), Cleveland State (1), Queens (1), Lindwood(1), Bellarmine(2) (Hopkins -1, Utah -1, AF -2)

(11/14=0.7857)Utah 10-4 Marquette (2), Bellarmine (2), DM (1), Air Force (3), Jacksonville (3), RM (1), Mercer(1), Cleveland (1), Queens(1) (Denver -1, Vermont -1, Hopkins -1, Rutgers -1)

(10/13=0.7692) Michigan 7-6 Hofstra (1), Canisius (1), Delaware (2), Harvard (2), Maryland (5), Ohio State (3), Ohio State (3) (Marquette -2, UVA -1, ND -1, Hopkins -1, Rutgers -1, Penn State -1)

(10/13=0.76923) UMass 8-5 Umass Lowell (1), Army (3), Vermont (4), Albany (2), brown (3), HP (1), St Bon(1), Hobart(1) (Boston U -1, Yale -1, Rutgers -1, Richmond -2, st joes -2 )

(10/13=0.76923) North Carolina 7-6 Mercer (1), Hopkins (6), Syracuse (4), Brown (3), Dartmouth (1), High Point (1), Providence (1) (Ohio State -2, Denver -1, Duke -1, UVA -1, Cuse -1, ND -1)

(11/15= 0.7373 Syracuse 8-7 Vermont (4), Albany (2), Holy Cross (1), Hofstra (1) Hobart (1) st bon (1) Princeton (4), UNC (4) (Maryland -1, UNC -1, Duke -1, Hopkins -1, ND -1, UVA -1, Duke -1)

(10/15=0.66667) Air Force 9-5 Denver (4), Colgate (1), Mercer (1), Bryant (4), Queens (1) Lindwood (1), Cleveland State (1), DM(1) Jax (3), Robert Morris(1) (Ohio State -2, Stony Brook -2, Duke -1, Utah -1, Bellarmine -2)

(9/14=0.6428) St. Joe’s 10-4 Sacred Heart (1), Towson (1), Providence (1), St Johns (1), Richmond (3), Monmouth (1), St Bon (1), Hobart (1), Mass (3), HP(1) (Hopkins-1, Penn -1, Drexel -2, Duke-1)

(9/14=0.64285) Bryant 10-4 Providence (1), Quinnapiac (1), Manhattan (1), Fairfield (1), UMBC (2) Lowell 1, NJIT 1, Albany (2), Bing (2), Brown (3) (Boston U -1, AF -2, Vermont -1, Merrimack -2)

(7/12=0.5833) Princeton 6-6 Monmouth (1), Manhattan (1)) Yale 5, Brown (3), Dartmouth (1), Harvard (2) (Maryland (-1), Georgetown (-1), Rutgers (-1), Penn (-1), Syracuse -1, Cornell -1)

(8/14=0.5714) Loyola 7-7 Maryland (5), Hopkins (6), Towson (1), Lafayette (1), Bucknell (1). Holy Cross (1), Colgate (1) (Rutgers -1, Duke -1, Army -1, Navy -2, Boston U -1, gtown -1, Lehigh -1)

(7/13=0.5384) Richmond 9-4 Bucknell (1), Towson (1), Fairfield (1), Mercer (1), St Johns (1), UMass (3), High Point (1), Hobart (1), St Bon (1)
Maryland -1, UVA -1, Grown -1, St Joes -1

(7/13=0.53846) Lehigh 9-4 Fairfield (1), Hobart (1), Navy (1), Bing (2), HC (1), Lafayette (1), Bucknell (1), Colgate 1, Loyola (2) (Cornell -1, Army -1, Georgetown -1, Boston U -1)

(6/12=0.5000)Harvard 5-7 Bucknell (1), UVM (4), Brown (3), Colgate (1), Cornell (5) (UVA -1, Mich -1, BU -1, Dart -2, Penn -1, Princeton -1, Yale -1)

(6/13=0.4615) Binghamton 9-4 Marist 1, St Bon 1, St Johns 1, Fairfield 1, Merrimack 1, NJIT 1, Ulowell (1), UMBC(2), Albany (2) (Lafayette -2, Lehigh -1, Vermont -1, Bryant -1)

(6/14=0.4285) Delaware 10-4 Lafayette (1), Mt St Marys (1) , St Johns (1), UMBC (2), Monmouth (1) hof 1, Hampton 1, Fairfield (1), Stony Brook (1), Drexel (1) (Villanova -1, Michigan -1, Hopkins -1, Towson -2)

(6/14=0.4285) Ohio State 5-9 Air Force (3), Cleveland State (1), UNC (4), Rutgers (4), Detroit (1) (UVA -1, Cornell -1, ND -1, Denver -1, Penn State -1, Maryland -1, Hopkins -1, mich -1, mich -1)

(6/15=0.4000) Bellarmine 10-5 St Bon (1), Canisius (1), Marist (1), VMI (1), Marquette (2), Queens (1), Lindwood (1), Air Force (3), Cleveland(1), DM (1) (Duke -1, Utah -1, Mercer -2, RM -2, Jacksonville -1)

4/14=0.2857 Brown 6-8 PC (1), UVM (3), STB (1), Nova (4), Penn (5), Dartmouth (1) (Quinnapiac -2, UNC -1, Harvard -2, Mass -2, Princeton -1, Yale -1, Cornell -1, Bryant -1)

(4/14=0.2857) Marquette 6-8 Lindwood (1), Michigan (4), Detroit (1), Penn State (6), St Bon (1), St Johns (1) (Utah -1, ND -1, Bellarmine -2, Providence -2, Gtown -1, Nova -1, Denver -1

[UVAlaxfan]

I wonder who your poll will pick as number 1 after the national title game?

[rolldodge]

I wonder who your poll will pick as number 1 after the national title game?

Its quite possible it won't be the winner, especially if a dark horse wins the title. Will be interesting to see.

[Gobigred]

I wonder who your poll will pick as number 1 after the national title game?

Its quite possible it won't be the winner, especially if a dark horse wins the title. Will be interesting to see.

Not only "quite possible," but perfectly OK. Rolldodge's algorithm ranks teams by their accomplishments to that point in the season. It is not intended to be predictive, but to recognize performance on the field. The same is true of NCAA selection and the eight seedings. The at-large teams are chosen and all teams are seeded by their performance during the season, not by some kind of groupthink assessment of which teams might have the best chances of winning. What matters is what you did, not who you are or how good you might be.

[Matnum PI]

[Matnum PI]

Reminder: FanLax Forum Polls are due on Monday (Today) at noon EST. Enjoy this weekend's games. Forum Poll Link (with Submission Links towards the bottom of the page). All are welcome to submit a ranking.

[Matnum PI]

[Matnum PI]

Duke-UVA tied for first. ND right behind them.

[Matnum PI]

Assuming you all agree, I think we should wait for the Tournament to be over before we do our next Forum Poll, the final FanLax Forum Poll of 2023...

[Farfromgeneva]

Gotta admit seeing Marist and Albany ahead of Nova seems odd. Presume it was rewarding conference finalists or something but I don’t see it.

[Matnum PI]

The *Final* FanLax Forum Polls of the 2023 season are due on Tuesday at noon EST. Enjoy the games. Forum Poll Link (with Submission Links towards the bottom of the page).

[Wheels]

The *Final* FanLax Forum Polls of the 2023 season are due on Tuesday at noon EST. Enjoy the games. Forum Poll Link (with Submission Links towards the bottom of the page).

Bump

[Farfromgeneva]

1. Duke
2. ND
3. UVA
4. Penn State
5. Maryland
6. Cornell
7. Hopkins
8. Gtown
9. Yale
10. Penn
11. Boston U
12. Denver
13. Villanova
14. Vermont
15. Army
16. Rutgers
17. Jacksonville
18. Utah
19. Michigan
20. UMass
21. UNC
22. Syracuse
23. Air Force
24. St Josephs
25. Bryant
26. Princeton
27. Loyola
28. Richmond
29. Lehigh
30. Harvard




Top 5 RPI win = 6 points
Top 10 RPI win = 5 points
Top 20 RPI win = 4 points
Top 30 RPI win = 3 points
Top 40 RPI win = 2 points
All other wins = 1 point

Top 25 RPI loss = -1 points
All other losses = -2 points


(41/14=2.9285) Duke 12-2 Bellarmine (2), High Point (1), Denver (4), Penn (5), Syracuse (4), Loyola (2), UNC (4), Air Force(3), St Josephs(3), Virginia (6), Virginia (6), Syracuse (4) (Jacksonville -2, Notre Dame -1)

(32/11=2.9090 ) Notre Dame 9-2 Marquette (2), Cleveland State (1), Georgetown (5), Maryland (5), Ohio State (3), Michigan (4), Syracuse (4), Duke (6), UNC(4) (Virginia -1, Virginia -1)

(36/13=2.769) Virginia 10-3 Michigan (4), Harvard (2), Ohio State (3), Richmond (3), Hopkins(6), Towson (1), Notre Dame(6), UNC (4), Syracuse (4), ND (6) (Maryland -1, Duke -1, Duke -1)

(30/12=2.500) Penn State 9-3 Lafayette (1), Stony Brook(1), Yale (5), Penn (5), Cornell (5), Ohio State (3), Hopkins (6), Michigan(4), Rutgers(4) (Villanova -1, Marquette -2, Maryland -1)

(31/13=2.384) Maryland 9-4 Richmond (3), Syracuse (4), Princeton (4), Albany (2), Virginia (6), Penn State (6), Ohio State (3), Rutgers (4), Rutgers(4) (Loyola -2, Notre Dame -1, Michigan -1, Hopkins -1)

(30/13=2.307 Cornell 11-2 Albany (2), Lehigh (3), Hobart (1), Ohio State (3), Yale (5), Penn(5), Dartmouth (1), Marquette(2), Army (3), Brown (3), Princeton(4) (Penn State -1, Harvard -1)

(34/15=2.2667) Hopkins 11-4 Georgetown(5), Jacksonville (3), Utah (4), St Josephs (3), Syracuse (4), Delaware (2), Navy (2). Michigan(4), Rutgers(4), Ohio State (3), Maryland(5) (North Carolina -1, Loyola -2, UVA -1, Penn State -1)

(22/13=1.6923) Georgetown 10-3 Princeton (4), Richmond (3). High Point (1), Lehigh (3), Denver (4), Providence (1), Marquette (2), Loyola(2), St Johns (1), Villanova (4) (Hopkins -1, Penn -1, ND -1)

(19/12=1.5833) Yale 8-4 Villanova (4), UMass (3), Denver (4), BU (4), Dart(1), Brown(3), Albany(2), Harvard (2) (Penn State -1 Cornell -1, Princeton -1, Penn -1)

(16/12=1.333) Penn 7-5 Georgetown (5), St Joe’s (3), Princeton (4), Yale (5), Harvard (2), Dartmouth(1), Albany(2) (Duke -1, Penn State -1, Villanova -1, Cornell -1, Brown -2)

(17/13=1.3076) Boston U 10-3 Bryant (4), UMass (3), Colgate (1), Bucknell (1), Holy Cross (1), Harvard (2), Lafayette (1), Loyola (2), Lehigh (3), Army (3) (Vermont -1, Navy -2, Yale -1 )

(16/13=1.2307) Denver 9-4 Utah (4), Merrimack (1), UNC (4), Ohio State (3), Villanova (4), Towson(1), St Johns (1), Providence (1), Marquette (2) (Air Force -2, Duke -1, Yale -1, gtown -1)

(16/14=1.1428) Villanova 10-4 Penn State (6), Delaware (2), Hofstra (1), Drexel (1), Penn (5), Monmouth (1), Navy (1), St Johns (1), Providence(1), Marquette (2) (Yale -1, Brown -2, Denver -1, Gtown -1 )

(14/13=1.0769) Vermont 9-4 BU (4), Utah (4), NJIT 1, ALB (2), Merr (1). Bing (2), Bryant (4), UML(1), UMBC (2) (Cuse -1, Brown -2, Harvard -2, Mass -2)

(13/13=1.0000) Army. 10-3 Rutgers (4), Wagner (1), Mercer (1), Holy Cross (1), Lafayette (1), Lehigh (3), Loyola [2], Bucknell (1), Colgate (1), Navy(1) (Umass -1, Cornell -1, BU -1)

(13/14=0.9285) Rutgers 8-6 Marist (1), Stony Brook (1), St John’s (1), Loyola (2), Utah (4), Princeton (4), UMass (3), Michigan (4) (Army -1, Ohio State -2, hopkins -1, Maryland -1, Penn State -1, Maryland -1)

(12/15=0.80) Jacksonville 12-3 Marist (1), Duke (6), High Point (1), UMass Lowell (1), St Johns (1), Mercer (1), Cleveland State (1), Queens (1), Lindwood(1), Bellarmine(2) (Hopkins -1, Utah -1, AF -2)

(11/14=0.7857)Utah 10-4 Marquette (2), Bellarmine (2), DM (1), Air Force (3), Jacksonville (3), RM (1), Mercer(1), Cleveland (1), Queens(1) (Denver -1, Vermont -1, Hopkins -1, Rutgers -1)

(10/13=0.7692) Michigan 7-6 Hofstra (1), Canisius (1), Delaware (2), Harvard (2), Maryland (5), Ohio State (3), Ohio State (3) (Marquette -2, UVA -1, ND -1, Hopkins -1, Rutgers -1, Penn State -1)

(10/13=0.76923) UMass 8-5 Umass Lowell (1), Army (3), Vermont (4), Albany (2), brown (3), HP (1), St Bon(1), Hobart(1) (Boston U -1, Yale -1, Rutgers -1, Richmond -2, st joes -2 )

(10/13=0.76923) North Carolina 7-6 Mercer (1), Hopkins (6), Syracuse (4), Brown (3), Dartmouth (1), High Point (1), Providence (1) (Ohio State -2, Denver -1, Duke -1, UVA -1, Cuse -1, ND -1)

(11/15= 0.7373 Syracuse 8-7 Vermont (4), Albany (2), Holy Cross (1), Hofstra (1) Hobart (1) st bon (1) Princeton (4), UNC (4) (Maryland -1, UNC -1, Duke -1, Hopkins -1, ND -1, UVA -1, Duke -1)

(10/15=0.66667) Air Force 9-5 Denver (4), Colgate (1), Mercer (1), Bryant (4), Queens (1) Lindwood (1), Cleveland State (1), DM(1) Jax (3), Robert Morris(1) (Ohio State -2, Stony Brook -2, Duke -1, Utah -1, Bellarmine -2)

(9/14=0.6428) St. Joe’s 10-4 Sacred Heart (1), Towson (1), Providence (1), St Johns (1), Richmond (3), Monmouth (1), St Bon (1), Hobart (1), Mass (3), HP(1) (Hopkins-1, Penn -1, Drexel -2, Duke-1)

(9/14=0.64285) Bryant 10-4 Providence (1), Quinnapiac (1), Manhattan (1), Fairfield (1), UMBC (2) Lowell 1, NJIT 1, Albany (2), Bing (2), Brown (3) (Boston U -1, AF -2, Vermont -1, Merrimack -2)

(7/12=0.5833) Princeton 6-6 Monmouth (1), Manhattan (1)) Yale 5, Brown (3), Dartmouth (1), Harvard (2) (Maryland (-1), Georgetown (-1), Rutgers (-1), Penn (-1), Syracuse -1, Cornell -1)

(8/14=0.5714) Loyola 7-7 Maryland (5), Hopkins (6), Towson (1), Lafayette (1), Bucknell (1). Holy Cross (1), Colgate (1) (Rutgers -1, Duke -1, Army -1, Navy -2, Boston U -1, gtown -1, Lehigh -1)

(7/13=0.5384) Richmond 9-4 Bucknell (1), Towson (1), Fairfield (1), Mercer (1), St Johns (1), UMass (3), High Point (1), Hobart (1), St Bon (1)
Maryland -1, UVA -1, Grown -1, St Joes -1

(7/13=0.53846) Lehigh 9-4 Fairfield (1), Hobart (1), Navy (1), Bing (2), HC (1), Lafayette (1), Bucknell (1), Colgate 1, Loyola (2) (Cornell -1, Army -1, Georgetown -1, Boston U -1)

(6/12=0.5000)Harvard 5-7 Bucknell (1), UVM (4), Brown (3), Colgate (1), Cornell (5) (UVA -1, Mich -1, BU -1, Dart -2, Penn -1, Princeton -1, Yale -1)

(6/13=0.4615) Binghamton 9-4 Marist 1, St Bon 1, St Johns 1, Fairfield 1, Merrimack 1, NJIT 1, Ulowell (1), UMBC(2), Albany (2) (Lafayette -2, Lehigh -1, Vermont -1, Bryant -1)

(6/14=0.4285) Delaware 10-4 Lafayette (1), Mt St Marys (1) , St Johns (1), UMBC (2), Monmouth (1) hof 1, Hampton 1, Fairfield (1), Stony Brook (1), Drexel (1) (Villanova -1, Michigan -1, Hopkins -1, Towson -2)

(6/14=0.4285) Ohio State 5-9 Air Force (3), Cleveland State (1), UNC (4), Rutgers (4), Detroit (1) (UVA -1, Cornell -1, ND -1, Denver -1, Penn State -1, Maryland -1, Hopkins -1, mich -1, mich -1)

(6/15=0.4000) Bellarmine 10-5 St Bon (1), Canisius (1), Marist (1), VMI (1), Marquette (2), Queens (1), Lindwood (1), Air Force (3), Cleveland(1), DM (1) (Duke -1, Utah -1, Mercer -2, RM -2, Jacksonville -1)

4/14=0.2857 Brown 6-8 PC (1), UVM (3), STB (1), Nova (4), Penn (5), Dartmouth (1) (Quinnapiac -2, UNC -1, Harvard -2, Mass -2, Princeton -1, Yale -1, Cornell -1, Bryant -1)

(4/14=0.2857) Marquette 6-8 Lindwood (1), Michigan (4), Detroit (1), Penn State (6), St Bon (1), St Johns (1) (Utah -1, ND -1, Bellarmine -2, Providence -2, Gtown -1, Nova -1, Denver -1

Lorin is going to cry like a girl with a skinned knee about this

[youthathletics]

Not to worry, pre season had them below 25.

Here we go...