"The Deep State" aka the American Intelligence Community

[a fan]

I'm not excusing anything. I'm pointing out that it's not evidence that the Trump campaign colluded with Russia.
I agree with Barr & Durham that it does not justify 2 massive (leaking) investigations which sabotaged the Trump Presidency, which was the objective of the Clinton--Russian disinformation op.

No, the objective was to win the election. Yet another made up bit of nonsense that "coincidentally' fits snugly in your theory.

Your mad because these guys got caught, and were convicted of lying.

BTW, you have every excuse at the ready: why all the lying if there was nothing there? Felony lying with good lawyers at their disposal.

Blah. Blah. Blah.

That's right: blah blah blah. How's yer Deep State doin', seven years on? What did all your complaining do?

Overzealous FBI ? Yeah, they were all over the laptop.

The laptop with nothing on it? THAT laptop?

Who's the Special Prosecutor investigating Hunter & clan ? A Family Court Judge in Arkansas ?

There it is. You don't care. That's all anything is about in your world: little R's.

Trump leaves, Deep State is no more. Magic.

Hey! You gonna vote DeSantis? I'm on board----he's gonna fix immigration, he's already promised it on day one.

What should I spend my coming DeSantis taxbreak on, OS?

[old salt]

What should I spend my coming DeSantis taxbreak on, OS?

A subscription to National Review Online.

[a fan]

What should I spend my coming DeSantis taxbreak on, OS?

A subscription to National Review Online.

Oh, that's not gonna cover it, and you know it.

What now, os? Deep State just sailed. And you're right back to not paying the FBI or the CIA any mind whatsoever. No reforms. No changes. FISA court still operating in the dark.

What was all your Deep State complaining for...what was the point? It was "fixed" two years ago when Biden was elected.

POOF not one single claim from your team about a Deep State.

[a fan]

Aaaaaaand, right on schedule: just what YOU asked for....

CNN has previously reported that there was internal disagreement at the Justice Department about the strength of a potential case against Hunter Biden, but the letter offers new details on internal battles over how to proceed with the investigation.

Now they're scared sh*tless of prosecuting anyone political because YOU and your pals told our investigators and prosecutors that they were off limits, and if you do that, you'll be named personally, and your life will be turned upside down.

And remember me telling you that EVERY investigation has people with different opinions on how to proceed? Well, here ya go.....

And the case is leaking, still. Your complaints about the leaks in Hunter's case are forthcoming, right?


Now what? Boy, good thing you got rid of the Deep State, because it would really suck if they were still around......

And let me take a wild stab here: for the first time, you're gonna be BEHIND a whistleblower and not go after him like he stole your dog.

I'm stoked for a few more years of your hypocrisy. This'll be cool.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/politics ... index.html

[old salt]

Aaaaaaand, right on schedule: just what YOU asked for....

CNN has previously reported that there was internal disagreement at the Justice Department about the strength of a potential case against Hunter Biden, but the letter offers new details on internal battles over how to proceed with the investigation.

Now they're scared sh*tless of prosecuting anyone political because YOU and your pals told our investigators and prosecutors that they were off limits, and if you do that, you'll be named personally, and your life will be turned upside down.

And remember me telling you that EVERY investigation has people with different opinions on how to proceed? Well, here ya go.....

And the case is leaking, still. Your complaints about the leaks in Hunter's case are forthcoming, right?


Now what? Boy, good thing you got rid of the Deep State, because it would really suck if they were still around......

And let me take a wild stab here: for the first time, you're gonna be BEHIND a whistleblower and not go after him like he stole your dog.

I'm stoked for a few more years of your hypocrisy. This'll be cool.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/23/politics ... index.html

Has Peter Strozk's old shop opened a FBI code named counter-intel investigation ?
What would be a good code name ? DBD = Deadbeat Baby Daddy ?
Has AG Garland appointed a Special Prosecutor yet ? Comey & McCabe are available.
If they keep stalling long enough, any statue of limitations on Hunter will expire.

[a fan]

If they keep stalling long enough, any statue of limitations will expire.

This is how OS's conspiracy works.

When Trump was in charge of the DoJ for four years, with the IRS AND FBI investigating Hunter Biden?

Again: investigating Hunter for four whole years. Oh, Old Salt lectured us on the need to be patient.


Now that a little D in in the White House? He's singing a new tune, and complaining that they're "dragging their feet".

Same information....long, drawn out investigation with no charges? Two different reactions from Old Salt.


No matter what happens, it's a conspiracy. Neat, right? Gee, why don't I take his comments seriously and at face value?

[Farfromgeneva]

If they keep stalling long enough, any statue of limitations will expire.

This is how OS's conspiracy works.

When Trump was in charge of the DoJ for four years, with the IRS AND FBI investigating Hunter Biden?

Again: investigating Hunter for four whole years. Oh, Old Salt lectured us on the need to be patient.


Now that a little D in in the White House? He's singing a new tune, and complaining that they're "dragging their feet".

Same information....long, drawn out investigation with no charges? Two different reactions from Old Salt.


No matter what happens, it's a conspiracy. Neat, right? Gee, why don't I take his comments seriously and at face value?

Ans yet you run this marathon here with our local
Cliff claven.

[dislaxxic]

THE POTENTIAL INTERNATIONAL GRIFT HIDING BEHIND THE STOLEN DOCUMENTS INVESTIGATION

Speculation, although very INFORMED and lengthy speculation, about the recent Jack Smith subpoena of Trump Org business records related to the stolen documents caper...

..

[runrussellrun]

You NEVER cried, or cheered, for Hunter Biden to be investigated over Burisma

I most certainly did. In this very thread.

No guessing, you wanted NO part of that investigation. Did you call it a consipiracy theory ? Certainly never went over those that posted "Russian stuff" when it came to the laptop.

I posted about the laptop, too. That's three in a day. You going for a record here?

The laptop with nothing on it? THAT laptop?

you posted this on the next page. sardonicism ?

FBI is attending school board meetings. Fact. you cool with this ?

If they are? You bet I'm ok with that. Bet? I asked. but the rest of what follows sure screams "yes". Want the FBI to stay away from your school district? Don't make violent threats on School Board Members and Teachers. Boom, problem flxed. Loudon county rape victims father..???.... We've seen this game before pre-Civil rights.......were violated. cuts both ways. the school board shipped the rapist around, screaming "pro trans, pro trans " stuff it. we are done with the insanity.

you're right, best to harp on tRump. NO bebate....Joe Biden IS the best candidate. same with tRump

Annnnnd wrong again. Not reading my posts at all. What I said, if you paid even a little attention, was that I"m THRILLED that the FBI/CIA keeps both eyes on corrupt, dishonest, and ethically challenged POS 1%ers like Hillary, Hunter, and TeamTrump.\

YOU, are yelling at me for this. Which means either you're not paying attention, or you think Hunter, Hillary, and Trump should be allowed to break laws all they like without law enforcement doing a thing about it. It IS either one, or the other, can't be anything else. afan, put down the US vs THEM fear porn attitude. If you were "thrilled" that folks were being investigated, why the constant pestering of those that feign "lil r" stuff ? It's weird. And I know weird. Noticed you didn't address, as usual, my comments and questions regarding FISA/Patriot act repeal. Over the holidays, will be "partying" with one of your Senators....perhaps I will ask for you

FBI report on Hillary's server is part of why she's a civilian, and lost the election. I'm THRILLED that happened to yet another 1%er who thinks that rules and laws are for us little people. You're glad whatever narrative puts you out in front, or whatever. winning the internet. I will search your Burisma/Hunter being investigated posts, on this thread, as you claimed. Won't be shocked if the majority of them are venom towards a pretend, "lil r"...and how THEY didn't care about.......

[OCanada]

You really are emotionally needy.

[runrussellrun]

You really are emotionally needy.

The Loudon county VA, rape victims parents say hello.

Shouldn't AG Garland have been using "alleged ", when calling said parents , terrorists ?

[runrussellrun]

Nice try.

Right. So at no point will we investigate the Deep State FBI agents who are going after Hunter.

This is different, right? How is it different? Oh, well Hunter is a Democrat, naturally. So you magically no longer believe in the Deep State. The Deep State ONLY goes after Republicans because obviously the FBI would NEVER attract conservative voters to work there, right?

Do you not understand how stupid this is?

This is why Trump went after the FBI and everyone else who's mean to him...it's what he does. And it works. Especially on those who are already in the bag....Republican partisans.

And YOU fell for it. And you are STILL falling for it, and unwilling to admit how stupid this whole affair is.

He gave a copy of files from the hard drive to Rudy well AFTER he gave it to the FBI.

So he claims. You believe him, do ya? What happened to your razor-sharp skepticism that got you to believe that Flynn----a full General----was tricked by a couple of flunkies from the FBI?

Tell me: why in the world would he EVER give a copy of a customer's hard drive to Rudy Freaking Giuliani, Old Salt?

Go ahead and give me an above board reason. I'll wiat.

You & the 50 partisan spooks claiming the laptop was Russian disinformation provided cover long enough to get through the election

Just because you're a partisan pretending to be too stupid to understand that this entire episode stinks to high heaven doesn't mean the rest of us have to act like we're that dumb, OS.

Go ahead and tell me a legitimate reason why this guy gave what he claims are complete laptop files to Rudy.

Once you fail to do that...now you know why no one would run that story with ZERO time to confirm that the laptop is legit.

And at no time has the FBI confirmed that what's on that hard drive is 100% legit, sorry.

Yep, it's Hunters laptop. But did the guy mess with the contents? You don't care. Why? Because of little R's and D's.....Rinse. Repeat.

This, umm, does NOT read like you support investigating Hunter's laptop.....at all.

[runrussellrun]

Hey you two -- I'm not makin' this stuff up. I never predicted that Hunter would be investigated.
I gave you links from CBS & NBC that say he is under federal investigation.
Don't blame me because you don't like what's happening.

I DO like what's happening. I'm not responding to the investigation itself. I'm SICK of all this horse-hockey Wash DC corruption.

And how F'ing bad does it look that Hunter was playing this game in Ukraine, of all the countries in the world to pick for his con?


I hope they find illegal stuff. I hope they throw away the key on the POS.

I'm sick of these do-nothing politicians who don't understand that they serve us. And when we vote one out? He's replaced by the next low life.


And the best they come up with? "Oh, my corruption isn't as bad as the last guy".


To reiterate----I was just responding to your claims that the media buried the laptop story before the election. Nope. The whole crazy story sounds entirely made up to any reasonable person. THAT is why they didn't run it.

And now the computer store owner came out with a book. I still don't understand why he's not under arrest for theft. The whole thing is gross.

At first , you sound happy that the (fbi? ) is going to investigate him (hunter? ), but not sure.
But, tough to fathom that you "hope they find illegal stuff", on a laptop, that "any reasonable person" suggests, doesn't exist in the first place. Or surely manipulated, if in fact his. Or... or......

does this count, as "go get em boyz", when it comes to Hunters laptop. I vote NO.

and your words in red.

[runrussellrun]

That's your solution -- arrest the shop owner who tried to return the abandoned laptop, then notified the FBI that he had something that might be evidence. As Hunter became a news item, he might have feared for his safety in holding such evidence.

You wanna blame the guy who called the cops. Classic liberal reflex.

Where did you come up with that? Playing dumb again?

I don't have a problem with him giving the thing to the FBI.....although that's, to put it mildly....weird. What prompted that? Why was he nosing around in a customer's emails and files?

But...why did he give copies to Rudy Giuliani? What right did he have to do that?

How was that legal, let aloe ethical?

So the evidence would not get buried. He consulted a lawyer first. Giving it to the FBI was weird ?

What evidence? The dude was supposed to fix his computer...not rifle through his person stuff.

That link you gave us? The FBI officer asked if there was child porn on the computer. Why do you think he asked that.

He asked that because: "hey dude, what the F are you doing here? Why are you giving us your customer's computer?"

He wrote a book about it, OS. This is some really low, underhanded stuff.

If we're gonna expect some modicum of ethics in our politicians...shouldn't we expect the same from our citizens? I would NEVER do what this guy did.

The obvious thing to do would be to have his lawyer spend his energy getting the computer back to Hunter. It's his computer.

Either that, or destroy it. Which is surely what his procedure is for laptops that are left behind for X months without reclaiming it. Or wipe the drive and reuse it.

With all the evidence, that has come out after this post, which does NOT scream "go get em boyz" (deep state ) Glad you see 4 sides to every story. but, you spin the same old same old to old salt.

Fact check sayz NO, to Hunter happy investigation screams by afan.

[runrussellrun]

The IC didn't go after Biden. The computer guy called the FBI & asked them to come get Hunter's laptop.

Hunter was already under investigation before that laptop was left.

So...you tell me...what prompted the investigation? And why did Giuliani----a civilian with an obvious axe to grind----- go to Ukraine, and feed info. to Barr?

You don't know, do you? And yet you're still trying to tell me that Rudy's involvement was fine for you? Come on. Just pony up and say "no, I wasn't fine with Rudy's obvious conflicts, and weaponizing US Intel to go after Joe Biden's family", so we can move on.

Hunter's laptop confirms that Rudy was on a valid scent.

And yet neither NYPost, you, or the Times can name a single crime on it. But for you, it's valid?

That's great news, because you understand that that means that you MUST agree that TeamTrump investigation was valid, right?

Because if the contents of Hunter's laptop was enough for Old Salt to say "yeah, that's enough of an appearance of a crime to say they were right to investigate....." obviously the felonies TeamTrump committed was proof that the investigations were warranted.

So are we done now?

fact check sayz NO, to afan screaming happy that Hunter is being investigated. Along with the entire Biden family. The 100's of posts, screaming, "go go go".....seem to just not make it onto these threads.

your penchant for mostly going after "lil r's", is bizarre. besides myself and docb. afan loves to "call out" others, eh. this for that, breast for tat. Just NEVER read a reply (scream) to any of the nonsense posting on these threads.

boy, the covidians really botched the VP choice, else potusa would have been ousted a long time ago.

[a fan]

At first , you sound happy that the (fbi? ) is going to investigate him (hunter? ), but not sure.
But, tough to fathom that you "hope they find illegal stuff", on a laptop, that "any reasonable person" suggests, doesn't exist in the first place. Or surely manipulated, if in fact his. Or... or......

You're walking into a conversation that's now seven years old. Let me help.

When I'm exhorting the FBI to go after Hunter for his obvious BS no-show Ukraine job? That's me. That's MY opinion.

When I'm asking OS why he's not complaining about a six year long investigation? I'm mocking HIM, because he's the one who believes in a Deep State.....and from the word go, he's INSISTED that his belief in his Deep State has nothing to do with the fact that he's a hardcore, partisan Republican.

And in this particular case, he complained about how long Mueller was taking to investigate Trump. He said, and I quote, "show me the man, and I'll show you the crime" during the Mueller investigation....and if you're unfamiliar with this idiom, it means "if you investigate a guy long enough, you can come up with some BS charges to throw at him".

But when it comes to the FBI investigating Hunter for six years? Old Salt doesn't say a word of complaint.

Get it? Im making fun of Old Salt's transparent hypocrisy when it comes to his Deep State: he's just upset that his Republican party got caught, and is taking it out the FBI.

If you're gonna pull up these old posts? PAY ATTENTION to what's happening in them.

[a fan]

With all the evidence, that has come out after this post, which does NOT scream "go get em boyz" (deep state ) Glad you see 4 sides to every story. but, you spin the same old same old to old salt.

Fact check sayz NO, to Hunter happy investigation screams by afan.

Boy, you're REALLY usin' the old logic, RRR.

Here's a simple question: what "evidence" is on the laptop? This is the word OS used.

So I'll ask you the same question I asked him: "evidence" of what, is on Hunter's laptop? What felony is in there?

Take your time, and give me the felonies.


See, how it works is, someone who can think for themselves can understand that there's NOTHING on that laptop, while at the same time, understand why the IRS might be looking at Hunter for tax evasion, simply because the man is CLEARLY ethically challenged.

Get it? Maybe take notes.

[a fan]

fact check sayz NO, to afan screaming happy that Hunter is being investigated. Along with the entire Biden family. The 100's of posts, screaming, "go go go".....seem to just not make it onto these threads.

Right. So....don't pull up any posts where I said I'm thrilled the FBI has an eye on both Hillary and Hunter. Or that I don't like Joe Biden, and knew full well that he's a NeoCon, and would take America to war again. And that Hillary paid the price for thinking she can break laws with her server because she's a 1%er, and that I'm glad that voters kicked her off the island.

Ignore all those posts....and then pretend like I'm not evenhanded, and don't care about R's and Ds. Neat.

Nice "fact checking". You're doing a GREAT job.

[a fan]

Ans yet you run this marathon here with our local
Cliff claven.

Yeah, that's fair. But we had to deal with six years of complaining from him, all while claiming he wanted to make sure future Presidents didn't have to deal with what HE thought Trump was dealing with......a lie, obviously.

[runrussellrun]

here, let me help you with that .

like Justin trudope, mansplaning to government rep from Italy about sexual stuff....

Either way, in this very thread, as you claimed, you showed little support in the hunter laptop rabbit hole. My opinion. You would have "pulled" a comment or two to "pick apart", if you disagreed. No ? asking.

Still, like all the others posters, ignore away the governments collusion to trample first amendment rights (ny post story ban/bury ) a fact, that they themselves don't dispute.

Yeah, so what.

look......tRump.

gee.....wonder if "last minute maneuvers" will pass the "debt ceiling". How original. will the patriot act renewal/additional will part of the "package".

But, afan, you can Munch on your silent screams, as you continue the fantasy that you indulge the "usuals" with your constant, out load screams about Hunter and the rest of the Biden family investigations. When it was tRumps family, blah blah blah, corrupt, etc. (well they "worked" in govt )

is afan cool with a federal agency setting up a first amendment suppressing system ? fda rumor (not an ONION piece )

sure, you are. because disinfo, is bad. Funny, doctors are angels, saints, unfalliabl.e BUT.....only CERTAIN doctors.

"you, are , attacking SCIENCE". sayz the fihzer ceo. Dam right we are. now what ? can you "defend" the attack ?

nope.

but, you sure can "ignore" the attacks ?

Did the FBI really make it hard on these guys ? Thought cops were a brotherhood ?