The Hate Directed at the LGBTQ+

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DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
The folks I know with a daughter that transitioned weren’t “woke”…which somehow is now a pejorative term. They “woke” up when they had no idea when she told them she had felt that way all of her life… she was 18….the sad part is the parents have been “shunned” by so called “friends”….You think most parents want to go through this or most “kids”?

They asked her why didn’t you tell us? Her answer was how? I wouldn’t wish it on anybody, but yeah it’s the parents….the son is fine…same house, same parents.
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I have another friend with a gay son. He’s struggling with it and won’t acknowledge it. His wife has accepted it….. Ironically, I probably realized his son was gay before he did. Football coach and a “blue collar” guy…. His other son is “fine”. These parents aren’t “woke”….. Dad is a “Trumper”…..
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:27 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
The folks I know with a daughter that transitioned weren’t “woke”…which somehow is now a pejorative term. They “woke” up when they had no idea when she told them she had felt that way all of her life… she was 18….the sad part is the parents have been “shunned” by so called “friends”….You think most parents want to go through this or most “kids”?

They asked her why didn’t you tell us? Her answer was how? I wouldn’t wish it on anybody, but yeah it’s the parents….the son is fine…same house, same parents.
Can you help me understand what you mean by the part I bolded?
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ohmilax34 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:24 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:27 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
The folks I know with a daughter that transitioned weren’t “woke”…which somehow is now a pejorative term. They “woke” up when they had no idea when she told them she had felt that way all of her life… she was 18….the sad part is the parents have been “shunned” by so called “friends”….You think most parents want to go through this or most “kids”?

They asked her why didn’t you tell us? Her answer was how? I wouldn’t wish it on anybody, but yeah it’s the parents….the son is fine…same house, same parents.
Can you help me understand what you mean by the part I bolded?
People blame these things on parenting….I should have used quotation marks.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:22 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 1:08 pmGay Push.jpeg
I have another friend with a gay son. He’s struggling with it and won’t acknowledge it. His wife has accepted it….. Ironically, I probably realized his son was gay before he did. Football coach and a “blue collar” guy…. His other son is “fine”. These parents aren’t “woke”….. Dad is a “Trumper”…..
... lotsa different familial dynamics. According to the Trevor Project, "42% of LGBTQ+ youth surveyed reported feeling “unaccepted” by a family member. The study also found that LGBTQ+ youth who experienced family rejection were more likely to have higher rates of depression, lower self-esteem, and poorer overall mental health."

Best thing for these kids is a supportive family!
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jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:39 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:22 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 1:08 pmGay Push.jpeg
I have another friend with a gay son. He’s struggling with it and won’t acknowledge it. His wife has accepted it….. Ironically, I probably realized his son was gay before he did. Football coach and a “blue collar” guy…. His other son is “fine”. These parents aren’t “woke”….. Dad is a “Trumper”…..
... lotsa different familial dynamics.
Yes. Both kids are good kids and we have been friends for over 20 years. His wife talks to my wife about it but he won’t mention it. I don’t care what someone’s sexual orientation is. Doesn’t bother me. Have had gay, lesbian and bisexual friends pretty much my whole life.
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a fan wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:45 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:21 am To wit, one of my many issues with my wife is that she continues to make decisions that are predominantly akin to living through our children. It’s one thing to guide form life experience and knowledge but another to force the direction the kid makes so they have no agency in their own human development.
It's the most common thing I see among parents.

I always have to count to ten after she tells me about an issue at school/wherever. Remind myself we're teaching her to solve problems, just as I do with my training of production staff at work. It's been VERY helpful to have taught workers with no experience how to operate a factory, and how to think for themselves so that they don't need me for most issues.
I’m a better manager of my kids than I historically have been for subordinates mainly because I just fix/clean up work mistakes. Lower intensity level with my kids for some reason.
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jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 1:08 pmGay Push.jpeg
Funny had a conversation today with a marriage relative, black sheep husband of fathers sister where they all finished up high school and some siblings stayed in Bel Air, MD. He’s very blue collar front he Pittsburg area and worked for one of the large rails for a while, now having neurological issues in his late 50s. Anyways they’re all Catholic, two kids the older is this dbag who did ROTC with a plan to get 20yrs as a weatherman first now they moved him to procurement but he acts like everyone should treat him like GI Joe. Just a total POS. The younger boy is gay as anything the terrified mouth breathers could dream up. Good kid. 6-7yrs ago we’re all at the beach in Garden City outside Myrtle. This guy the wife’s uncle is drunk as he may be known to get regularly and the older brother who’s in the perfect never wrong and sacrosanct Military is gassing their drunk fathers head up with anti gay stuff and the drunk dad just verbally assaults his youngest son. Turns out his priest had called the son an abomination to the dads face recently as well which I only learned recently. Funny thing is the dad, wife’s uncle by marriage, is coming around finally. I always thought he wasn’t a bad guy but the older old is a scumbag POS and will always be.

(If it matters I took the younger sort of cousin by marriage out of the house and got him high as we walked around the area, he must’ve been hurting inside there’s no way anyone could take that from their father and brother and not, but he held his chin up high the hood time and kept it in. That’s tough not his biyach worthless wasted of oxygen brother).
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:45 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:39 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:22 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 1:08 pmGay Push.jpeg
I have another friend with a gay son. He’s struggling with it and won’t acknowledge it. His wife has accepted it….. Ironically, I probably realized his son was gay before he did. Football coach and a “blue collar” guy…. His other son is “fine”. These parents aren’t “woke”….. Dad is a “Trumper”…..
... lotsa different familial dynamics.
Yes. Both kids are good kids and we have been friends for over 20 years. His wife talks to my wife about it but he won’t mention it. I don’t care what someone’s sexual orientation is. Doesn’t bother me. Have had gay, lesbian and bisexual friends pretty much my whole life.
A discussed gay dudes always have straight female friends and they’re no endorsement to a chick like one from a gay dude. It’s the seal of approval to get your way Burger King style!
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 7:58 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:45 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:39 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 2:22 pm
jhu72 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 1:08 pmGay Push.jpeg
I have another friend with a gay son. He’s struggling with it and won’t acknowledge it. His wife has accepted it….. Ironically, I probably realized his son was gay before he did. Football coach and a “blue collar” guy…. His other son is “fine”. These parents aren’t “woke”….. Dad is a “Trumper”…..
... lotsa different familial dynamics.
Yes. Both kids are good kids and we have been friends for over 20 years. His wife talks to my wife about it but he won’t mention it. I don’t care what someone’s sexual orientation is. Doesn’t bother me. Have had gay, lesbian and bisexual friends pretty much my whole life.
A discussed gay dudes always have straight female friends and they’re no endorsement to a chick like one from a gay dude. It’s the seal of approval to get your way Burger King style!
Absolutely. Took my son out with his girlfriend and her friends. One of her friends has a gay brother that hung out (as well as his mom), I bought all the drinks at a bar watching world cup. The brother told us he was headed to Minnesota to watch the Vikings as one of his girlfriends lives with a Minnesota Vikings player. They were staying at his house which he said was ridiculous. Odds are she’s hot….Nice kid. He was comfortable.
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NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:24 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
A seed will be planted to do what? Make a straight kid somehow turn gay?

Funny how the opposite sseds never seem to work though...
Not what I meant at all, NBC.
Have said from the beginning that it's really complex stuff and for anyone who elects to have their sex changed has/had to be living in a hell of sorts. Is there anything more extreme?
Have no idea what percent of the population who find themselves in this boat is but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's very small. It sure does get a lot of press, a lot of discussion, a lot of in your face you transphobic talk. It feels as if there's a push on for trannies and transexuals.....see Mulvaney on Bud Light cans. It does concern me (not a whole lot) that there are/are going to be parents who might overthink their little girls who like to climb trees and who do more of what is seen as typical masculine things being too quick to be concerned and feel the need to have a talk about it. Maybe plant a seed, unintentionally or otherwise.
Have never much cared about gays, bis, trannies, whatever your thing is alright by me. The brain calls the shots and it's got one helluvan imagination when it comes to sex. Seems as if we've always frowned on gays but heteros can get into some pretty funky stuff and it's okay because...well, because they're heteros. I've always pretty much thought like that.
Do not think, until completely transitioned, male borns should be competing in female borns competition. Nope.
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DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:49 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:24 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
A seed will be planted to do what? Make a straight kid somehow turn gay?

Funny how the opposite sseds never seem to work though...
Not what I meant at all, NBC.
Have said from the beginning that it's really complex stuff and for anyone who elects to have their sex changed has/had to be living in a hell of sorts. Is there anything more extreme?
Have no idea what percent of the population who find themselves in this boat is but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's very small. It sure does get a lot of press, a lot of discussion, a lot of in your face you transphobic talk. It feels as if there's a push on for trannies and transexuals.....see Mulvaney on Bud Light cans. It does concern me (not a whole lot) that there are/are going to be parents who might overthink their little girls who like to climb trees and who do more of what is seen as typical masculine things being too quick to be concerned and feel the need to have a talk about it. Maybe plant a seed, unintentionally or otherwise.
Have never much cared about gays, bis, trannies, whatever your thing is alright by me. The brain calls the shots and it's got one helluvan imagination when it comes to sex. Seems as if we've always frowned on gays but heteros can get into some pretty funky stuff and it's okay because...well, because they're heteros. I've always pretty much thought like that.
Do not think, until completely transitioned, male borns should be competing in female borns competition. Nope.
Anheuser-Busch also sent Mulvaney a special can of Bud Light featuring her face and a message on the top of the can reading “Cheers to 365 Days of Being a Woman,” referencing Mulvaney’s preamble in her “Days of Girlhood” series.

Was there a production run of cans that were distributed?
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:57 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:49 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:24 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
A seed will be planted to do what? Make a straight kid somehow turn gay?

Funny how the opposite sseds never seem to work though...
Not what I meant at all, NBC.
Have said from the beginning that it's really complex stuff and for anyone who elects to have their sex changed has/had to be living in a hell of sorts. Is there anything more extreme?
Have no idea what percent of the population who find themselves in this boat is but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's very small. It sure does get a lot of press, a lot of discussion, a lot of in your face you transphobic talk. It feels as if there's a push on for trannies and transexuals.....see Mulvaney on Bud Light cans. It does concern me (not a whole lot) that there are/are going to be parents who might overthink their little girls who like to climb trees and who do more of what is seen as typical masculine things being too quick to be concerned and feel the need to have a talk about it. Maybe plant a seed, unintentionally or otherwise.
Have never much cared about gays, bis, trannies, whatever your thing is alright by me. The brain calls the shots and it's got one helluvan imagination when it comes to sex. Seems as if we've always frowned on gays but heteros can get into some pretty funky stuff and it's okay because...well, because they're heteros. I've always pretty much thought like that.
Do not think, until completely transitioned, male borns should be competing in female borns competition. Nope.
Anheuser-Busch also sent Mulvaney a special can of Bud Light featuring her face and a message on the top of the can reading “Cheers to 365 Days of Being a Woman,” referencing Mulvaney’s preamble in her “Days of Girlhood” series.

Was there a production run of cans that were distributed?
No, wsj did a couple of features on it over the weekend. Just sent as a one off. The PR fight between the woman they hired to run marketing for the brand and the CEO is excellent. Something is suspect about her, I can peg the CEO for better or worse but I don’t like what I think is a superficiality for her from the various prices ive read.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:57 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:49 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:24 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
A seed will be planted to do what? Make a straight kid somehow turn gay?

Funny how the opposite sseds never seem to work though...
Not what I meant at all, NBC.
Have said from the beginning that it's really complex stuff and for anyone who elects to have their sex changed has/had to be living in a hell of sorts. Is there anything more extreme?
Have no idea what percent of the population who find themselves in this boat is but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's very small. It sure does get a lot of press, a lot of discussion, a lot of in your face you transphobic talk. It feels as if there's a push on for trannies and transexuals.....see Mulvaney on Bud Light cans. It does concern me (not a whole lot) that there are/are going to be parents who might overthink their little girls who like to climb trees and who do more of what is seen as typical masculine things being too quick to be concerned and feel the need to have a talk about it. Maybe plant a seed, unintentionally or otherwise.
Have never much cared about gays, bis, trannies, whatever your thing is alright by me. The brain calls the shots and it's got one helluvan imagination when it comes to sex. Seems as if we've always frowned on gays but heteros can get into some pretty funky stuff and it's okay because...well, because they're heteros. I've always pretty much thought like that.
Do not think, until completely transitioned, male borns should be competing in female borns competition. Nope.
Anheuser-Busch also sent Mulvaney a special can of Bud Light featuring her face and a message on the top of the can reading “Cheers to 365 Days of Being a Woman,” referencing Mulvaney’s preamble in her “Days of Girlhood” series.

Was there a production run of cans that were distributed?
No, wsj did a couple of features on it over the weekend. Just sent as a one off. The PR fight between the woman they hired to run marketing for the brand and the CEO is excellent. Something is suspect about her, I can peg the CEO for better or worse but I don’t like what I think is a superficiality for her from the various prices ive read.
People believe AB was stocking shelves with those cans such is the state of ignorance in today’s society. One can.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:57 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:49 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:24 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
A seed will be planted to do what? Make a straight kid somehow turn gay?

Funny how the opposite sseds never seem to work though...
Not what I meant at all, NBC.
Have said from the beginning that it's really complex stuff and for anyone who elects to have their sex changed has/had to be living in a hell of sorts. Is there anything more extreme?
Have no idea what percent of the population who find themselves in this boat is but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's very small. It sure does get a lot of press, a lot of discussion, a lot of in your face you transphobic talk. It feels as if there's a push on for trannies and transexuals.....see Mulvaney on Bud Light cans. It does concern me (not a whole lot) that there are/are going to be parents who might overthink their little girls who like to climb trees and who do more of what is seen as typical masculine things being too quick to be concerned and feel the need to have a talk about it. Maybe plant a seed, unintentionally or otherwise.
Have never much cared about gays, bis, trannies, whatever your thing is alright by me. The brain calls the shots and it's got one helluvan imagination when it comes to sex. Seems as if we've always frowned on gays but heteros can get into some pretty funky stuff and it's okay because...well, because they're heteros. I've always pretty much thought like that.
Do not think, until completely transitioned, male borns should be competing in female borns competition. Nope.
Anheuser-Busch also sent Mulvaney a special can of Bud Light featuring her face and a message on the top of the can reading “Cheers to 365 Days of Being a Woman,” referencing Mulvaney’s preamble in her “Days of Girlhood” series.

Was there a production run of cans that were distributed?
No, wsj did a couple of features on it over the weekend. Just sent as a one off. The PR fight between the woman they hired to run marketing for the brand and the CEO is excellent. Something is suspect about her, I can peg the CEO for better or worse but I don’t like what I think is a superficiality for her from the various prices ive read.
People believe AB was stocking shelves with those cans such is the state of ignorance in today’s society. One can.
See Mulvaney on Bud Light can. Fixed it.
Her video clip is gold, well worth the watch.
Somebody should get a promotion.
Whether one can was produced or a million cans isn't the point. The tranny was/is being pushed on America
and the pushback should be anything but surprising.
https://thepostmillennial.com/budweiser ... f-girlhood
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She’s not a spokesperson that characterization is a meaningful distinction and difference.

How Bud Light Blew It

With one blunder after another, the brewing giant behind the brand became a case study in how not to handle a culture-war storm

Jennifer MaloneyMay 21, 2023 5:30 am ET

The company’s marketing hub is about 950 miles away in a sleek building in Manhattan’s Chelsea neighborhood. Employees can brainstorm in the break room while helping themselves to beer on tap, or take a drink up to the roof deck.

These two sides of the Budweiser empire collided in spectacular fashion in March, when Bud Light’s marketers arranged for a personalized can of Bud Light to be sent to a transgender social-media star. The promotion and its aftermath made the brewer an object lesson in how not to handle a culture-war storm.

Alissa Heinerscheid, the first woman in Bud Light’s four-decade history to run its marketing, had devised a strategy to combat the beer’s long-declining sales by appealing to a wider swath of customers, including more women and younger adults. Parent company Anheuser-Busch InBev BUD -0.93% embraced the plan and pledged to increase U.S. marketing spending on Bud Light fivefold after sharply cutting it during the pandemic.

Then, a promotion with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney prompted a boycott.

This wasn’t the first time an Anheuser-Busch brand had supported transgender rights in a marketing effort: In 2021, Michelob Ultra featured transgender track star Cecé Telfer in an ad campaign supporting gender equality in sports. Last year, Bud Light Canada released a limited-edition can for pride month displaying pronouns such as she, he and they. “Celebrate everyone’s identity,” the can said.

But senior executives said they were caught off-guard by the Mulvaney promotion and the personalized beer can. AB InBev’s leaders were uncomfortable with a marketing initiative that thrust one of its biggest brands into the middle of a divisive political issue, according to people familiar with the matter.

The company’s response made matters worse. Anheuser-Busch stayed mostly silent for two weeks, then released a general statement about bringing people together, prompting criticism from all sides for both waiting too long to respond and also not taking a clear stand.

When the furor continued, the company placed Heinerscheid and her boss, Daniel Blake, on leave. Heinerscheid was replaced in the role of head marketer for Bud Light by a seasoned beer executive and Blake’s role was eliminated to give senior marketers closer oversight on brand decisions. Heinerscheid and Blake remain on leave. Anheuser-Busch declined to comment on their future at the company, citing the executives’ privacy and safety.

The result angered pretty much everyone: core Bud Light consumers, supporters and opponents of transgender rights, wholesalers, retailers, bar owners and company staff.

Anheuser-Busch employees shared concerns with one another about the personnel changes and about the company’s silence as Heinerscheid came under personal attack. “It just feels like I work for a company that caved,” one employee told The Wall Street Journal.

By the second week of May, Bud Light sales volume was down more than 28% compared with the same period last year in U.S. retail stores, according to an analysis of Nielsen data by consulting company Bump Williams. It was a rare case of a politically inspired product boycott working.

The company now plans for the first time to include Bud Light in the brewer’s long-running sponsorship of a veterans organization, wholesalers said. Bud Light is also leaning back into television commercials on themes like football and country music. The brewer recently told its wholesalers that it would buy back unsold cases of beer that have gone past their expiration date.

“In the current environment in the social media landscape, you know that consumer brands in different situations might be pulled into the discussion,” AB InBev Chief Executive Michel Doukeris said in an interview earlier this month. Bud Light wasn’t the first and won’t be the last, he said. “With one can, one post… we saw how this grew.”

‘Best gift ever’

Bud Light, the No. 1 selling beer brand in the U.S., has been struggling for years with falling sales volume as consumers shifted to craft beers, hard seltzer and canned cocktails.

The brand hoped to pull off a tricky feat: bringing in new groups of drinkers without alienating its core customers. Bud Light’s market share is particularly high in rural and conservative parts of the country, and its drinkers are predominantly male.

Before joining Anheuser-Busch, Heinerscheid, 39 years old, had done stints at General Mills and Johnson & Johnson. Soon after her promotion to lead Bud Light in June 2022, she was named to Ad Age magazine’s 40 Under 40 list of top marketers.

She was blunt about her mandate. In a podcast interview released in March, Heinerscheid said, “I had a really clear job to do when I took over Bud Light. It was, this brand is in decline, it’s been in decline for a really long time, and if we do not attract young drinkers to come and drink this brand, there will be no future for Bud Light.”

Alissa Heinerscheid, pictured above in 2019, was the first woman in Bud Light’s four-decade history to run its marketing. Photo: Lars Niki/Getty Images for Change for Kids
Her efforts seemed to be working. Wholesalers said they were thrilled at a meeting in January in Anaheim, Calif., where Heinerscheid and Blake unveiled a new marketing campaign for Bud Light and screened the company’s planned Super Bowl ads with the slogan, “Easy to drink, easy to enjoy.” After the Super Bowl ads aired, Bud Light’s sales volume declines slowed, though they didn’t turn around entirely.

The trouble began this year when the brand enlisted several social-media influencers, including Mulvaney, to create buzz for a Bud Light contest during the March Madness college basketball tournament.

Around the same time, the brand sent Mulvaney a personalized Bud Light can with her picture on it as a gift to mark the anniversary of her gender transition. Personalized cans such as this one are made for Anheuser-Busch by an outside vendor, which creates a custom plastic wrap to go around a regular beer can, according to wholesalers and other people familiar with the matter.

Mulvaney showed an image of the can on April 1 in a sponsored Instagram post about the March Madness contest. She called the can “possibly the best gift ever.”

Mulvaney had been documenting her gender transition over the past year on TikTok and Instagram. Her following on social media had grown over the year; so had criticism of her from some conservative commentators. She has 10.8 million followers on TikTok and 1.8 million on Instagram. Like many other social-media stars, she has turned her platforms into a business by creating sponsored posts for a range of brands. In one, she wore a Nike sports bra. In another, she did a livestream video sponsored by Walmart and Native, a deodorant and skincare line. She also did a sponsored Bud Light post in February that attracted little negative attention at the time.

The single personalized can made for Mulvaney was not available for sale. Yet as the backlash picked up, many people, including bar and store owners, wrongly believed that Mulvaney’s video was a television commercial or that the can with her picture on it was available in stores.

Dylan Mulvaney speaking at the PFLAG National 50th Anniversary Gala in New York in March. Photo: Dia Dipasupil/Getty Images
The musician Kid Rock posted a video on Twitter in which he shot cases of Bud Light with a submachine gun. Country singer Travis Tritt said he would stop including Bud Light in his tour rider.

Critics of the beer’s association with Mulvaney then turned their attention to Heinerscheid. They pointed to comments in her March podcast interview that they said insulted Bud Light drinkers. Heinerscheid had described previous Bud Light campaigns as having “fratty, sort of out of touch humor.”

Those words touched a nerve. Calling her a hypocrite, the Daily Mail published old college photos lifted from Heinerscheid’s Facebook page showing her drinking at a Harvard party.

Anheuser-Busch stayed quiet and hoped that the boycott would blow over.

Out of touch

Anheuser-Busch works with 385 independent distributors, or wholesalers, across the country. Many of them are family-owned businesses that have carried Anheuser-Busch products for generations. The move of the company’s sales and marketing hub from St. Louis to New York in 2015, several years after Anheuser-Busch was acquired by global giant InBev, has been a point of contention. Some wholesalers have pushed the brewer to move those marketers back to St. Louis, arguing that executives in New York are out of touch with the drinkers of the company’s flagship brands. Anheuser-Busch also has marketers based in St. Louis, Austin, Miami and Los Angeles.

The wholesalers’ employees, many driving trucks bearing the Bud Light logo, were soon confronted by angry people on streets, in stores and in bars. There were bomb threats at several Anheuser-Busch facilities and wholesaler locations. The Los Angeles Police Department dispatched a bomb squad to conduct a sweep of a Los Angeles brewery.

Transgender issues have moved to the center of conservative social agendas in recent years. Legislators, mostly in or from Republican-majority states, have proposed laws aimed at curbing gender-related healthcare for youth and adults, restricting transgender athletes’ sports play, and banning books.

Bud Light for decades has sponsored LGBT rights groups and pride events. AB InBev says it also has worked to cultivate an inclusive workplace for LGBT employees in its offices around the world.

On April 14, two weeks after Mulvaney’s post, the company posted a written statement on its website and on Twitter from Brendan Whitworth, the chief of AB InBev’s North American business. It didn’t mention Mulvaney or the personalized can.

“We never intended to be part of a discussion that divides people,” Whitworth said in the statement. “We are in the business of bringing people together over a beer.”

In a May 4 interview with the Journal, Doukeris, the CEO, said the Bud Light brand marketing team had made the decision to enlist Mulvaney as an influencer. He declined to say whether that had been a mistake.

“While beer will always be at the table when important topics are debated, the beer itself should not be the focus of the debate,” he told analysts on a conference call the same day.

Damage control

Bud Light sales began dropping in the first week of April and kept falling for more than a month. The boycott has hurt other Anheuser-Busch beers, too, including Budweiser, Michelob Ultra and Busch Light. Sales volumes for rivals Coors Light and Miller Lite in the second week of May were up about 17% and 15%, respectively, according to Bump Williams.

The company named a replacement for Heinerscheid in the Bud Light role: Todd Allen, formerly the vice president of global marketing for Budweiser. When Qatari officials changed their minds about selling alcohol around stadiums at this year’s World Cup, Allen was part of a team of AB InBev executives who ripped up much of the plan they had been working on for years and wrote a new one in days, capitalizing on the media attention that the alcohol ban generated.

Some wholesalers cheered the staffing moves. Del Papa Distributing, a wholesaler outside Houston, posted a statement on Facebook, trying to clarify misunderstandings about Mulvaney’s post.

“The unfortunate reality that it happened without higher-level approval exposed a concerning lack of oversight for brand marketing decisions,” Del Papa said in the statement. “That lack of oversight has been addressed.”

On April 24, Whitworth, the chief of AB InBev’s North American business, met with a group of its distributors in Washington, D.C. He told them that he hadn’t known about Mulvaney’s post, or the personalized can, until someone sent him a text message shortly after the backlash erupted.

The brewer promised to triple its planned U.S. marketing spending on Bud Light this summer and boost spending on other brands as well. The company said it would give a $500 bonus to truck drivers, delivery people, sales representatives and employees of independent wholesalers as an acknowledgment that many of them had been confronted or threatened by angry customers and critics of the promotion.

Anheuser-Busch also sent wholesalers a letter they could share with retailers to address misperceptions about Mulvaney’s post. It noted that the personalized can was “one single can given to one social media influencer.”

Mulvaney is an actor and singer who lives in Los Angeles and previously performed in a national tour of the Broadway musical “The Book of Mormon.” Citing a responsibility to the transgender community, she said she now is being more selective about the public appearances and sponsorship opportunities that are offered to her.

Turnaround plan

Anheuser-Busch continues to receive blows from all sides.

Two Republican senators have called for an investigation into Anheuser-Busch’s partnership with Mulvaney, alleging that the influencer’s social-media followers include people under the legal drinking age. The company said it follows industry guidelines for ensuring that its marketing reaches adults and that Mulvaney’s Instagram account met them.

The Human Rights Campaign, an LGBT rights organization, said Anheuser-Busch had showed a “profound lack of fortitude” and should have stood in solidarity with Mulvaney as people attacked her on social-media and conservative news outlets. The group this month suspended the brewer’s Corporate Equality Index score, which ranks companies on their policies for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer employees.

Doukeris said the brewer would continue to support organizations with which it has decadeslong relationships, including LGBT rights groups. He drew a distinction between corporate sponsorship and brand marketing. Beer marketing, he said, should focus on broad themes such as sports, music, and connecting people.

AB InBev CEO Michel Doukeris said the brewer would continue to support organizations with which it has decades-long relationships, including LGBTQ rights groups.
Addressing criticism that Anheuser-Busch didn’t defend Heinerscheid, Doukeris said the company did everything it could to protect those who came under attack, including employees of independent distributors.

Doukeris and leaders of the brewer’s North American business this month met with wholesalers in St. Louis and presented their turnaround plan.

They showed the distributors new special-edition Budweiser and Bud Light bottles highlighting the company’s 13-year sponsorship of Folds of Honor, a nonprofit organization that provides scholarships for family members of military veterans and first responders who have been killed or disabled in the line of duty. Previously, the brewer had featured Folds of Honor only on Budweiser packaging.

The executives told wholesalers that Bud Light’s market share losses had stabilized. Whitworth pledged to get it all back “and then some,” according to distributors who attended. In interviews with the Journal, several wholesalers said Bud Light sales and market share in their markets were still falling.

Write to Jennifer Maloney at [email protected]
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DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:33 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:57 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:49 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:24 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
A seed will be planted to do what? Make a straight kid somehow turn gay?

Funny how the opposite sseds never seem to work though...
Not what I meant at all, NBC.
Have said from the beginning that it's really complex stuff and for anyone who elects to have their sex changed has/had to be living in a hell of sorts. Is there anything more extreme?
Have no idea what percent of the population who find themselves in this boat is but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's very small. It sure does get a lot of press, a lot of discussion, a lot of in your face you transphobic talk. It feels as if there's a push on for trannies and transexuals.....see Mulvaney on Bud Light cans. It does concern me (not a whole lot) that there are/are going to be parents who might overthink their little girls who like to climb trees and who do more of what is seen as typical masculine things being too quick to be concerned and feel the need to have a talk about it. Maybe plant a seed, unintentionally or otherwise.
Have never much cared about gays, bis, trannies, whatever your thing is alright by me. The brain calls the shots and it's got one helluvan imagination when it comes to sex. Seems as if we've always frowned on gays but heteros can get into some pretty funky stuff and it's okay because...well, because they're heteros. I've always pretty much thought like that.
Do not think, until completely transitioned, male borns should be competing in female borns competition. Nope.
Anheuser-Busch also sent Mulvaney a special can of Bud Light featuring her face and a message on the top of the can reading “Cheers to 365 Days of Being a Woman,” referencing Mulvaney’s preamble in her “Days of Girlhood” series.

Was there a production run of cans that were distributed?
No, wsj did a couple of features on it over the weekend. Just sent as a one off. The PR fight between the woman they hired to run marketing for the brand and the CEO is excellent. Something is suspect about her, I can peg the CEO for better or worse but I don’t like what I think is a superficiality for her from the various prices ive read.
People believe AB was stocking shelves with those cans such is the state of ignorance in today’s society. One can.
See Mulvaney on Bud Light can. Fixed it.
Her video clip is gold, well worth the watch.
Somebody should get a promotion.
Whether one can was produced or a million cans isn't the point. The tranny was/is being pushed on America
and the pushback should be anything but surprising.
https://thepostmillennial.com/budweiser ... f-girlhood
I rarely see trannies on tv…. But I see a lot of politicians and talking heads talking about trannies…. YMMV
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:52 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:33 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:27 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 10:09 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:57 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 9:49 pm
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 12:24 pm
DMac wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 11:06 am :lol:
Ah, got it.
Couldn't imagine it from you but my curiosity stemmed from the thought that some might say, well honey, maybe, but you might find that you like girls too or maybe would even rather be a boy. The seed is planted and I do believe something along these lines does happen with some overly woke conscious parents.
A seed will be planted to do what? Make a straight kid somehow turn gay?

Funny how the opposite sseds never seem to work though...
Not what I meant at all, NBC.
Have said from the beginning that it's really complex stuff and for anyone who elects to have their sex changed has/had to be living in a hell of sorts. Is there anything more extreme?
Have no idea what percent of the population who find themselves in this boat is but I feel pretty safe in saying that it's very small. It sure does get a lot of press, a lot of discussion, a lot of in your face you transphobic talk. It feels as if there's a push on for trannies and transexuals.....see Mulvaney on Bud Light cans. It does concern me (not a whole lot) that there are/are going to be parents who might overthink their little girls who like to climb trees and who do more of what is seen as typical masculine things being too quick to be concerned and feel the need to have a talk about it. Maybe plant a seed, unintentionally or otherwise.
Have never much cared about gays, bis, trannies, whatever your thing is alright by me. The brain calls the shots and it's got one helluvan imagination when it comes to sex. Seems as if we've always frowned on gays but heteros can get into some pretty funky stuff and it's okay because...well, because they're heteros. I've always pretty much thought like that.
Do not think, until completely transitioned, male borns should be competing in female borns competition. Nope.
Anheuser-Busch also sent Mulvaney a special can of Bud Light featuring her face and a message on the top of the can reading “Cheers to 365 Days of Being a Woman,” referencing Mulvaney’s preamble in her “Days of Girlhood” series.

Was there a production run of cans that were distributed?
No, wsj did a couple of features on it over the weekend. Just sent as a one off. The PR fight between the woman they hired to run marketing for the brand and the CEO is excellent. Something is suspect about her, I can peg the CEO for better or worse but I don’t like what I think is a superficiality for her from the various prices ive read.
People believe AB was stocking shelves with those cans such is the state of ignorance in today’s society. One can.
See Mulvaney on Bud Light can. Fixed it.
Her video clip is gold, well worth the watch.
Somebody should get a promotion.
Whether one can was produced or a million cans isn't the point. The tranny was/is being pushed on America
and the pushback should be anything but surprising.
https://thepostmillennial.com/budweiser ... f-girlhood
I rarely see trannies on tv…. But I see a lot of politicians and talking heads talking about trannies…. YMMV
Wife watches this inane Rupal drag competition show. It’s not even funny or entertaining they suck a** in a metaphorical sense. Terrible show because the show and people suck but not because they like to tuck the sack.
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C'mon, Ru and the gals kill it. Highly entertaining stuff.
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