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I tried to be respectful this week when talking about Bryant but the AE isn’t the B1G and it was fairly obvious to me that it was going to be a blow out. Unfortunately I’m not sure that game prepares them well for next week.
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Congrats to the program advancing to round of 8. Big achievement and will give PM and his staff a big boost moving forward-and another week of positive national and local media attention.
Per @d1scourse -stevens on twitter Melendez set school record for points in an ncaa tournament game and team had best offensive game since 2005 and tied for most goals ever in an ncaa tournament game.
Want to wait for the post game media to hear PM on a few things.
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flalax22 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 2:50 pm I tried to be respectful this week when talking about Bryant but the AE isn’t the B1G and it was fairly obvious to me that it was going to be a blow out. Unfortunately I’m not sure that game prepares them well for next week.



You ‘tried to be respectful’ then you weren’t?

Bryant is a good squad. They might not be ‘22 Maryland but they’re ‘23 resume isn’t shabby at all.

I think you could try another angle: Hopkins seems to be accelerating at seasons end. Bryant simply ran into a focused team.

Congrats to Hopkins. Glad to see them back in the hunt. Cuse will join next year.

Btw, is anyone going to talk about Brooks English?
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According to box score, 14 goal scorers. Impressive. Congrats to the program, great win!
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Hopkins looked good. Melendez is legit. He’ll be back again right?
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looked like PM had collison and some other horses in late in the 4th. that means he wanted improvement from them. They also lost faceoffs and I thought the shooting and ball handling was awful early. Peshko and bauer did not have great games.

wins over georgetown and michigan continue to look better and better.
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Bigdawg69 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:25 pm Hopkins looked good. Melendez is legit. He’ll be back again right?
Melendez is listed as a Junior on the roster.
jhu06 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:26 pm looked like PM had collison and some other horses in late in the 4th. that means he wanted improvement from them. They also lost faceoffs and I thought the shooting and ball handling was awful early. Peshko and bauer did not have great games.

wins over georgetown and michigan continue to look better and better.
The midfield lines they were already playing like 9 deep from the first whistle; dunno how much deeper you really want to go on the bench ultimately even when you mostly park the bus. I think the only person added to the offensive midfield rotation was Stu Phillips in the 4th.
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Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:31 pm
Bigdawg69 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:25 pm Hopkins looked good. Melendez is legit. He’ll be back again right?
Melendez is listed as a Junior on the roster.
jhu06 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:26 pm looked like PM had collison and some other horses in late in the 4th. that means he wanted improvement from them. They also lost faceoffs and I thought the shooting and ball handling was awful early. Peshko and bauer did not have great games.

wins over georgetown and michigan continue to look better and better.
The midfield lines they were already playing like 9 deep from the first whistle; dunno how much deeper you really want to go on the bench ultimately even when you mostly park the bus. I think the only person added to the offensive midfield rotation was Stu Phillips in the 4th.
Mlelendez only played in 3 games in 2022 for Marquette - not saying he wants one but he could/would get a medical red-shirt and play 2 more years for the Jays.

I'm confused- what did Bauer and Peshko do that qualified as "not great" games? - I recall Peshko took one shot - it was an absolute rocket that hit the pipe and led directly to a Melendez goal. How many goals do you want to score? The two face-off men for Bryant are good - you are going to lose some. You have to play somebody at mid-field - they didn't take shots - they passed it around trying to run out the clock and not get hurt - no improvement sought in that circumstance whatsoever - 06' are you watching the same game?
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06 can join Sag in timeout. Weirdo.

That was a thorough spanking and just what the Jays needed to give them some confidence headed to the quarters in Annapolis. Needless to say that will be a very different kind of game.

Scott Marr’s Albany team lost to Bryant not once but TWICE this season. We’ve got the right guy in charge. Sag A has a smooth brain.

Congrats to Koleton Marquis on his first career goal. Also had a nice CT on the ride. He’s going to be a good one.

Brett Martin was in a walking boot yesterday and then plays like that…get that kid a banana.

Mazzone is a 1st Teamer IMO. 2nd team minumum. He’s gonna have to be big again if we have any hope of beating ND.

Nice Homewood sendoffs for Degnon, Narewski, et al.

Back in the quarters where we belong. Onto ND.
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Finster wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:06 pm
flalax22 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 2:50 pm I tried to be respectful this week when talking about Bryant but the AE isn’t the B1G and it was fairly obvious to me that it was going to be a blow out. Unfortunately I’m not sure that game prepares them well for next week.


Bryant is a good squad. They might not be ‘22 Maryland but they’re ‘23 resume isn’t shabby at all.
They have losses vs Vermont, Merrimack, Boston and Air Force and add in one goal wins vs Bingo, Albany and Providence. There is an argument to be made that team should have been in a play in game.

But Jays don’t pick who they play and they played extremely well.
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Isn't RPI like the sole determining factor for which AQs are put in the play in?

Eye test metrics or not RPIs for your AQs down here are...

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Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 5:54 pm Isn't RPI like the sole determining factor for which AQs are put in the play in?
I thought that was close to the case if not explicit. As has been discussed Bryant was like 19th and Del was sitting around 23.
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51percentcorn wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:40 pm
Ruffled_Feathers wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:31 pm
Bigdawg69 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:25 pm Hopkins looked good. Melendez is legit. He’ll be back again right?
Melendez is listed as a Junior on the roster.
jhu06 wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 3:26 pm looked like PM had collison and some other horses in late in the 4th. that means he wanted improvement from them. They also lost faceoffs and I thought the shooting and ball handling was awful early. Peshko and bauer did not have great games.

wins over georgetown and michigan continue to look better and better.
The midfield lines they were already playing like 9 deep from the first whistle; dunno how much deeper you really want to go on the bench ultimately even when you mostly park the bus. I think the only person added to the offensive midfield rotation was Stu Phillips in the 4th.
Mlelendez only played in 3 games in 2022 for Marquette - not saying he wants one but he could/would get a medical red-shirt and play 2 more years for the Jays.

I'm confused- what did Bauer and Peshko do that qualified as "not great" games? - I recall Peshko took one shot - it was an absolute rocket that hit the pipe and led directly to a Melendez goal. How many goals do you want to score? The two face-off men for Bryant are good - you are going to lose some. You have to play somebody at mid-field - they didn't take shots - they passed it around trying to run out the clock and not get hurt - no improvement sought in that circumstance whatsoever - 06' are you watching the same game?
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post game video conference. Foy "It was your 7th goal before your first midfield was on the field for a goal". Quite something.
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10stone5 wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:05 pm
wgdsr wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 12:53 pm
51percentcorn wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 12:14 pm
jhu06 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 10:46 am he interviewed a few Hopkins lax alumni for his podcast.
Hey '06 - this CV deserves more introduction than "Hopkins lax alumni" - From the US Hall of Fame website:

"DeTommaso, an All-American defenseman and graduate of Farmingdale High School, was a four-time All-American at Johns Hopkins, earning first team honors from 1984-86 and honorable mention in 1983. He helped Johns Hopkins to national championships in 1984 and 1985 and was the recipient of the Schmeisser Award as the nation's outstanding defenseman in 1985. He was named the JHU Team MVP in 1986, JHU Defensive MVP in 1984, '85 and '86, named to the All-Time JHU Team in 1986 and the NCAA Silver Anniversary Team in 1995. He was also selected to play in the 1986 North-South All-Star game.

He played on four U.S. teams (1986, 1990, 1994, 1998) that won world championships and was selected to the All-World team, and as the outstanding defenseman, at the 1994 world championship. He was a six-time USCLA All-Star and was selected as the club player of the year in 1989."

As decorated as the guy who coaches for that team up North.

BTW - the men's Hopkins Lax Twitter account has a picture of Patrick Deans from yesterday in full practice gear obviously participating in drills or scrimmage
you forgot grandfather of the crosscheck hold. great player.

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He played it clean,

he could just flat out cover also, in addition to whatever nefarious checks he may have inflicted.
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I do have to give PM major props for letting the team hit 20 and not holding them back.
It's been a long long time since I've heard any German beer songs at Homewood.
I've always hated that stupid 19-goal rule. Bill Tierney is retired and that stupid rule should retire with him.
You can't put backup players in the game and tell them not to score. That's not fair to them for all the hard work they put in with the team.
Every player who gets on the field should have an opportunity to showcase what they can do.
I honestly think a good player transferred out because Petro put him on the field and wouldn't let him score.
We were lucky to get the Bryant matchup, maybe not so lucky to get ND. Hopefully they come in overconfident.
BIG has three teams in the final 8. The Ivy's are so overrated.
You have to admit, the offense is light-years ahead of where it's been the last two years.
Melendez is the best attackman we've had in years.
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Great game by the Blue Jays today.

This team has chemistry.

This team has depth.

This team has spirit.

I think the Notre Dame game is there for the taking. The Fighting Irish are a terrific team, and so are the Blue Jays.

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Sagittarius A* wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 10:50 pm I do have to give PM major props for letting the team hit 20 and not holding them back.
It's been a long long time since I've heard any German beer songs at Homewood.
I've always hated that stupid 19-goal rule. Bill Tierney is retired and that stupid rule should retire with him.
You can't put backup players in the game and tell them not to score. That's not fair to them for all the hard work they put in with the team.
Every player who gets on the field should have an opportunity to showcase what they can do.
I honestly think a good player transferred out because Petro put him on the field and wouldn't let him score.
We were lucky to get the Bryant matchup, maybe not so lucky to get ND. Hopefully they come in overconfident.
BIG has three teams in the final 8. The Ivy's are so overrated.
You have to admit, the offense is light-years ahead of where it's been the last two years.
Melendez is the best attackman we've had in years.
I don't think I have seen the Jays sub so early in years. A good sign on the team's trajectory, and kudos to PM for getting more players involved.
I certainty agree that most other conceivable first-round match-ups looked more challenging when I looked at the bracket, but I was guilty of looking ahead (I know, I know), and I thought that PSU and UMD deservedly had a better draw, as they avoided the Big 3 until Memorial Day Weekend.
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Hope that HOP fans are counting their blessings, including their first round draw.

Also, getting to play Qtrfinal in Annapolis is home away from home. This reminds me of the 2015 Qtrs vs Cuse...aarrrgh

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Random thoughts on the day after the first NCAA win since '18:
- Yes Bryant was overmatched and the game got out of hand in the second quarter but even knowing how the Bryant game would have turned out beforehand - I would trade Penn State's draw in a second - the Committee did Hopkins no favors.
- Milliman is one slow heartbeat kind of guy. I know that does not lead to a reputation of a Mr. Warmth but probably helps the team handle situations.
- QK and Anish were doing fine until the second half (Quint really does know the game) and then it imploded - and I recognize it's hard to call a blow-out. Anish's job is to call the game and part of that duty is to identify the players on the field. No sub for Bryant was ever ID'd that I can recall -except for maybe the new goalie and Versfeld/Marquis/Phillips/Krampf etc were playing for minutes before they were called out and the offensive players pretty much had to score to be named. Ruddy played the entire 4th quarter and was never mentioned that I remember. And the mind wanderings of Q in a blow-out can certainly be aggravating - I really don't care that he smells popcorn at a Rutgers basketball game. Maybe he's not "a fan" (his words) and just an alum but as a 4 year player at the school and the announcer of most repute - he should know the tradition of not playing "To Win" after the 20th goal and it's not meant to be disrespectful. I was mildly surprised at his little shot at Petro (intended or unintended) the little nugget about how hard it is to tear down the mansion and rebuild.
- Not to get deep into the weeds of next year with another game to play but I thought it was notable that Ruddy was the only close long stick sub identified on the scoresheet and they gave Jaronski a long pole in the 4th - another thing an announcer should have brought up - I know Todaro is hurt and I guess folks like Bigelow/Trepeta etc. did not dress with the tournament roster restrictions? That raises a significant questions for '24 - and alot depends on whether Szuluk returns - let's say for a second he doesn't - that means Smith/Brown and Kaufman are all you have in experience. Sorry '06 from that standpoint Beaudan may be the most important last year of eligibility senior on the roster.
- I've said it before but if Hopkins had Fracyon they would be a serious threat to win it all.
- So I am having a hard time seeing the path to Philadelphia - there has to be something to be learned from why UVA can hold them to 8 and 10 goals when they average 16. The most obvious things are Nunes had 33 saves in the 2 games and with 27 ND turnovers - that is above their per game average. In addition Dobson was limited to 1 assist and Chris Kavanaugh 2 goals and 2 assists in the 2 games. LaSalla is another reason of course but he didn't pull a Ned or a Steve Krauss - he won about 60% in both games. The other thing is that UVA shot the ball 48 times in both games whereas opponents average less than 41. More on this later but maybe the most positive thing about the game yesterday was the 2 turnovers in the first half - huge key to Sunday
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51percentcorn wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 8:45 am Random thoughts on the day after the first NCAA win since '18:
- Yes Bryant was overmatched and the game got out of hand in the second quarter but even knowing how the Bryant game would have turned out beforehand - I would trade Penn State's draw in a second - the Committee did Hopkins no favors.
- Milliman is one slow heartbeat kind of guy. I know that does not lead to a reputation of a Mr. Warmth but probably helps the team handle situations.
- QK and Anish were doing fine until the second half (Quint really does know the game) and then it imploded - and I recognize it's hard to call a blow-out. Anish's job is to call the game and part of that duty is to identify the players on the field. No sub for Bryant was ever ID'd that I can recall -except for maybe the new goalie and Versfeld/Marquis/Phillips/Krampf etc were playing for minutes before they were called out and the offensive players pretty much had to score to be named. Ruddy played the entire 4th quarter and was never mentioned that I remember. And the mind wanderings of Q in a blow-out can certainly be aggravating - I really don't care that he smells popcorn at a Rutgers basketball game. Maybe he's not "a fan" (his words) and just an alum but as a 4 year player at the school and the announcer of most repute - he should know the tradition of not playing "To Win" after the 20th goal and it's not meant to be disrespectful. I was mildly surprised at his little shot at Petro (intended or unintended) the little nugget about how hard it is to tear down the mansion and rebuild.
- Not to get deep into the weeds of next year with another game to play but I thought it was notable that Ruddy was the only close long stick sub identified on the scoresheet and they gave Jaronski a long pole in the 4th - another thing an announcer should have brought up - I know Todaro is hurt and I guess folks like Bigelow/Trepeta etc. did not dress with the tournament roster restrictions? That raises a significant questions for '24 - and alot depends on whether Szuluk returns - let's say for a second he doesn't - that means Smith/Brown and Kaufman are all you have in experience. Sorry '06 from that standpoint Beaudan may be the most important last year of eligibility senior on the roster.
- I've said it before but if Hopkins had Fracyon they would be a serious threat to win it all.
- So I am having a hard time seeing the path to Philadelphia - there has to be something to be learned from why UVA can hold them to 8 and 10 goals when they average 16. The most obvious things are Nunes had 33 saves in the 2 games and with 27 ND turnovers - that is above their per game average. In addition Dobson was limited to 1 assist and Chris Kavanaugh 2 goals and 2 assists in the 2 games. The other thing is that UVA shot the ball 48 times in both games whereas opponents average less than 41. More on this later but maybe the most positive thing about the game yesterday was the 2 turnovers in the first half - huge key to Sunday



I attended the second UVA/ND game at Charlottesville.

For starters, Lasalla went at about 60%. That helps.

Second, ND’s attack played lethargically. Especially 51. I don’t know what that was about. Zero energy. Nunes played well but many of his saves were fairly easy stick catches from 10-15 yards out/time running down type shots.

I think UVA’s defense is in the heads of 51 and 50. They’re tall rangy guys with speed. That might be ND’s attack’s kryptonite.
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