2023 NCAA Tournament

[Jaysjay88]

If you are going to use opponents RPI as a guage of difficulty, then use RPI of the other team. Hopkins is #4 RPI.

[DocBarrister]

Hopkins at 6 got a huge break, Bryant didn't even play one team in the top 20 yet alone beat one. You can argue their best win was Brown. Penn St at 5 gets a much tougher draw in Princeton.

I can't believe this isn't getting more discussion.

#4 Maryland is playing Army, #17 RPI
#5 Penn State is playing Princeton (!), #9 RPI
...
#7 Georgetown is playing Yale, #11 RPI
#8 Cornell is playing Michigan, #12 RPI

#6 Johns Hopkins is playing Bryant, #33 RPI

Hopkins got a better draw than Duke and Virginia, as well; Virginia plays 23 Utah, Duke gets an opponent with a to 20 RPI.

Hopkins may have fallen to a 6 seed with their blowout loss to Maryland in the Big10 semis, but they were gifted with a matchup worthy of a 2 seed. Maybe the committee wanted to be sure to avoid yet another first round whitewashing.

Bryant hasn’t had a tough schedule (explaining, in part, their low RPI), but they’re a pretty good team.

I’m sure the Blue Jays are not taking them lightly.

DocBarrister

[ICGrad]

Would a 2 seed get Notre Dame in the second round? Enough with the crying. It's incessant. Yeah, they got an easier 1st round matchup than PSU and Maryland but a much harder quarterfinal/FF path. It's a wash. Ask Tillman if he'd like to switch with Hopkins and I guarantee he'd say no.

BTW, Bryant is #19 RPI, not 33.

My bad; I was looking at the Massey ratings.

Anything after the first round is going to be a tough matchup.

[Bigdawg69]

Does anyone realistically see a team other than Duke uva or nd winning it all?

Also give me Michigan over Cornell in round one. Sharpie.

[10stone5]

Of course

there is no 2022 Maryland team this year
they all have flaws.

[HopFan16]

Of course

there is no 2022 Maryland this year
they all have flaws.

Duke, UVA, and ND all individually have flaws but collectively they're probably a tier ahead of every other team in the tournament. I don't think the gap between those tiers is insurmountable, but it does make it likely that one of the three hoists the trophy on memorial day. It helps that they are seeds #1-3 and they won't cross paths until the Final Four or championship game.

[Finster]

Of course

there is no 2022 Maryland this year
they all have flaws.

Duke, UVA, and ND all individually have flaws but collectively they're probably a tier ahead of every other team in the tournament. I don't think the gap between those tiers is insurmountable, but it does make it likely that one of the three hoists the trophy on memorial day. It helps that they are seeds #1-3 and they won't cross paths until the Final Four or championship game.

I think Duke and UVA are a tier above. ND not as much.

I do think a number of additional teams could win this year: JHU, Maryland, Georgetown, Cornell, Penn State, Michigan. If any one of those go on a heater here, I won’t be surprised.

[Laxinmay]

Since my son graduated in May I have watched a lot of lacrosse. I know my eyes deceive me a lot but what is ND missing that Duke and UVA have? All things considered, ND lost to Virginia twice, beat Duke by 5, Michigan by 10, UNC by 9 and 9, Syracuse by 8, Georgetown by 7.

If just NCAA tourney teams:
Michigan by 10
Georgetown by 7
Duke by 5
Maryland by 1

Sure I have been saying they are top tier all year but seems that you either love ND or you just hate them.

[44WeWantMore]

Since my son graduated in May I have watched a lot of lacrosse. I know my eyes deceive me a lot but what is ND missing that Duke and UVA have? All things considered, ND lost to Virginia twice, beat Duke by 5, Michigan by 10, UNC by 9 and 9, Syracuse by 8, Georgetown by 7.

If just NCAA tourney teams:
Michigan by 10
Georgetown by 7
Duke by 5
Maryland by 1

Sure I have been saying they are top tier all year but seems that you either love ND or you just hate them.

Sure there is a lot of ND hate out there, but you have to admit that both Michigan and Georgetown only look like great wins now.
Neither started the year well.
And Maryland has looked both great and terrible, and I cannot figure out why.

[blue angels]

Since my son graduated in May I have watched a lot of lacrosse. I know my eyes deceive me a lot but what is ND missing that Duke and UVA have? All things considered, ND lost to Virginia twice, beat Duke by 5, Michigan by 10, UNC by 9 and 9, Syracuse by 8, Georgetown by 7.

If just NCAA tourney teams:
Michigan by 10
Georgetown by 7
Duke by 5
Maryland by 1

Sure I have been saying they are top tier all year but seems that you either love ND or you just hate them.

For one thing lacrosse tradition and multiple National Championship titles are a big difference. It doesn't help when your stars get a rep for taking cheap shots after the whistle and your coach allows it to continue. That doesn't mean they can't win it all this year but they haven't until they finally have.

[Finster]

Since my son graduated in May I have watched a lot of lacrosse. I know my eyes deceive me a lot but what is ND missing that Duke and UVA have? All things considered, ND lost to Virginia twice, beat Duke by 5, Michigan by 10, UNC by 9 and 9, Syracuse by 8, Georgetown by 7.

If just NCAA tourney teams:
Michigan by 10
Georgetown by 7
Duke by 5
Maryland by 1

Sure I have been saying they are top tier all year but seems that you either love ND or you just hate them.

I was at the ND/UVA game at Charlottesville. I mean, ND’s attack did some things which made my head spin. And it came down to lack of effort and possibly attitude. I’m not going to rehash it now, because I already did in another thread, but wow is all we could say (4 former D1 players). Made us think that that team could easily unravel if things don’t go their way. My read is Danowski and Tiffany don’t have similar issues.

[MoralTerpitude]

The NCAA should really consider starting the first round on Friday night, maybe play a couple of games. It would give the tournament some of that March Madness feel.

[laxfan1313]

In men's lacrosse, during a penalty, one team is man up. So what's with the woke BS that it has now become "player up?"

[a fan]

The NCAA should really consider starting the first round on Friday night, maybe play a couple of games. It would give the tournament some of that March Madness feel.

+1

[Big Dog]

In men's lacrosse, during a penalty, one team is man up. So what's with the woke BS that it has now become "player up?"

bcos the term fits better with women's lax (and is therefore easier for the TV interns to grasp)?

More importantly, what's wrong with Sudden Death for OT?

[Finster]

I think the B1G loses two this coming weekend, and UVA advances on its way to a final match with Duke.

Advancing:

Duke
Army

JHU
UVA


Exiting: Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame, Georgetown

[Matnum PI]

Best Upcoming Games in order. Rankings are FanLax Computer Rankings.

1 Virginia #1 vs #4 Georgetown 05/20/2023
2 Notre Dame #2 vs #6 Johns Hopkins 05/21/2023
3 Duke #3 vs #5 Michigan 05/20/2023
4 Army #11 vs #10 Penn State 05/21/2023

[jff97]

Did a little digging and found this is the first time we'll have four different teams in the Final Four from the previous year since 2007.

[Farfromgeneva]

Did a little digging and found this is the first time we'll have four different teams in the Final Four from the previous year since 2007.

Thanks I had commented on another thread it looked like a fresh set of FF teams for the first time in a while. 16yrs is a while. That was Del and UMBC w Hop and someone else that year right?

[jff97]

Did a little digging and found this is the first time we'll have four different teams in the Final Four from the previous year since 2007.

Thanks I had commented on another thread it looked like a fresh set of FF teams for the first time in a while. 16yrs is a while. That was Del and UMBC w Hop and someone else that year right?

Duke, Cornell, Delaware and Hopkins.