coda wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:42 am
HopFan16 wrote: ↑Fri May 12, 2023 11:20 am
If Tucker Durkin didn't get any Tewaaraton buzz the years he literally shut down every single attackman he faced including Lyle Thompson then I'm not sure Adler or any other defenseman will again. It just is what it is. Absolutely fine with Dordevic being on there. 57 goals on 35% shooting for a Final Four caliber team — he's not going to win but that's good enough to be a finalist this year.
This is not really the point people are trying to make. Durkin should have been on the list. The award's mission is "honoring the most outstanding men’s college players". This is very similar to Heisman discussions, which has essentially become a QB award. The Tewaaraton award has been given out 21 times and 19 attackmen have won it (Lyle and Myles split it) and 3 midfielders. No midfielder has won since 2009. It has essentially become an award for the best attackman in the country. That is not the intend mission of the committee according to the website. In both cases I think the argument against the selection biases are 100% correct, but I doubt it gains any traction.
Exactly.
It's not that we don't understand what is happening with the selections, it's that it's clearly not congruent with the stated objective.
A suggestion was made to simply say "most outstanding offensive player" if that's the actual intent. (Or do what they claim).
IMO, it's unusual, but not impossible, for the most outstanding player in a season to be a defensive player. Could be a shutdown defender, erasing the best offensive player on the opposing teams and with lots of CT's, GB's, etc, or a goaltender who so outperforms as to be the difference maker again and again and again. Going into the tournament certainly one of the 5 potentially to be the player who is so outstanding as to be the key for his team beating the very best opponents. Lots of good examples of such being at a minimum in the final 5.
And then let the chips fall where they may.
Though not a Cornell guy, I'd love to see Adler match up on O'Neill in the quarters and stymie him; gotta shut down Boehm first.
But the desire to have no more than one from each team probably fouled that up.
On the Shellenberger vs Dickson, the reality is that the former QB's that offense, sets the tone and pace, controls the flow. Lots of 'hockey assists'. Not his best year, for sure, but I think that's why he's there vs Dickson. But I'd have had Dickson over Dordevic, who is certainly good and has a hot hand recently, but I just don't think that his season's performance puts him in the top 5.