Jacksonville 2023

[gymman1031]

Wow, Jacksonville looked like a completely different team today against Duke. Congrats to them on making it two-straight wins vs. the Blue Devils!

[gymman1031]

I have great respect for John Galloway as a head coach. And I definitely think Jacksonville has a bright future. However, I am confused as to what happened to them after the beginning part of the season was over. Not only did they lose to Utah and Air Force by several in the regular season, and today against Bobby Mo in the ASUN Tournament Quarterfinals, but they had several wins that weren't pretty at all. They were definitely one of the most talented teams in the ASUN. And, after last year's one goal loss to Richmond in the Southern Conference final, which kept them from appearing in the postseason for the first time ever, one would have thought they would have had that tough, unfinished business mentality throughout the season. In fact, at the beginning of the season, they looked so good that, on the ASUN thread, someone asked, very appropriately, if Jacksonville would lose another game(before the NCAA Tournament).

[wgdsr]

I have great respect for John Galloway as a head coach. And I definitely think Jacksonville has a bright future. However, I am confused as to what happened to them after the beginning part of the season was over. Not only did they lose to Utah and Air Force by several in the regular season, and today against Bobby Mo in the ASUN Tournament Quarterfinals, but they had several wins that weren't pretty at all. They were definitely one of the most talented teams in the ASUN. And, after last year's one goal loss to Richmond in the Southern Conference final, which kept them from appearing in the postseason for the first time ever, one would have thought they would have had that tough, unfinished business mentality throughout the season. In fact, at the beginning of the season, they looked so good that, on the ASUN thread, someone asked, very appropriately, if Jacksonville would lose another game(before the NCAA Tournament).

only saw them play against hopkins. they had a couple nice players but twas pretty non-plussed. & utah and air force aren't bad. if anything, the duke game was the outlier.

[gymman1031]

I have great respect for John Galloway as a head coach. And I definitely think Jacksonville has a bright future. However, I am confused as to what happened to them after the beginning part of the season was over. Not only did they lose to Utah and Air Force by several in the regular season, and today against Bobby Mo in the ASUN Tournament Quarterfinals, but they had several wins that weren't pretty at all. They were definitely one of the most talented teams in the ASUN. And, after last year's one goal loss to Richmond in the Southern Conference final, which kept them from appearing in the postseason for the first time ever, one would have thought they would have had that tough, unfinished business mentality throughout the season. In fact, at the beginning of the season, they looked so good that, on the ASUN thread, someone asked, very appropriately, if Jacksonville would lose another game(before the NCAA Tournament).

only saw them play against hopkins. they had a couple nice players but twas pretty non-plussed. & utah and air force aren't bad. if anything, the duke game was the outlier.

That is all true. However, on paper, Jacksonville appeared as talented as anyone in the conference.

[oldbartman]

Hearing there were issues with transfers/5th years mixing with the undergrads in terms od team chemistry. Hazards of the transfer portal....

[smoova]

Hearing there were issues with transfers/5th years mixing with the undergrads in terms od team chemistry. Hazards of the transfer portal....

Shocking ...

[oldbartman]

Hearing there were issues with transfers/5th years mixing with the undergrads in terms od team chemistry. Hazards of the transfer portal....

Shocking ...

Rutgers, GTown????? who's next?

[tech37]

Hearing there were issues with transfers/5th years mixing with the undergrads in terms od team chemistry. Hazards of the transfer portal....

Watching Jax last night you could almost feel a chemistry issue. Not sure what else would explain a talented team's poor/uninspired performance when the post season is on the line. RMU played inspired and it showed.

Obviously the portal works well for some teams, e.g., SU.

[HopFan16]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- Ohio State — a complete mess
- Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

[SkipPass]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- Ohio State — a complete mess
- Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

Teams that rely on the transfer portal, instead of developing the players they recruited are in for a rude awakening.

So far - the wholesale use of the transfer portal hasn’t produced any tangible results. I don’t see it happening this year either.

[GaitsRightHand]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- #9 Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- #3 Ohio State — a complete mess
- #8 Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- #1 Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- #4 UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

IL's top 10 Transfer Classes posted on: 10/26/2022.. Continuing on the last comment...

#2 Notre Dame - good but hitting a plateau
#5 Cuse - did better with a lot of new faces
#6 JHU - Only 2 notable transfers (melendez/mazzone) but they're both getting it done.
#7 UVA - McConvey is my favorite transfer to date.
#10 PSU- Winkoff is a menace. Other transfers have faired well but Winkoff was a huge pick-up.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60336

[HopFan16]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- #9 Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- #3 Ohio State — a complete mess
- #8 Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- #1 Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- #4 UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

IL's top 10 Transfer Classes posted on: 10/26/2022.. Continuing on the last comment...

#2 Notre Dame - good but hitting a plateau
#5 Cuse - did better with a lot of new faces
#6 JHU - Only 2 notable transfers (melendez/mazzone) but they're both getting it done.
#7 UVA - McConvey is my favorite transfer to date.
#10 PSU- Winkoff is a menace. Other transfers have faired well but Winkoff was a huge pick-up.

https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... ings/60336

Hopkins, ND and UVA were more selective with their transfers IMO. The two examples of going heavy in the portal in terms of quantity and it paying dividends were Cuse and PSU — in the case of Cuse they badly needed an infusion of talent. PSU incorporating all those guys and it not affecting team chemistry has been impressive although as you alluded, several of those guys aren't actually playing much.

[wgdsr]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- Ohio State — a complete mess
- Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

Teams that rely on the transfer portal, instead of developing the players they recruited are in for a rude awakening.

So far - the wholesale use of the transfer portal hasn’t produced any tangible results. I don’t see it happening this year either.

rutgers may have set a record for getting in the tourney and not beating anybody, but once there they made quarters and challenged ff, and then made the ff. that's pretty tangible given their record on that prior.

[Matnum PI]

Tough loss yesterday to RoMo...

[wgdsr]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- Ohio State — a complete mess
- Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

did anyone have unc higher than mid-teens/bubble after last year and losing gray and others? they still have nd.

offense continues to be a problem even as defense largely got fixed this year. for the longest time, they had a dearth of high-end attackmen. then gray showed up, and that changed to go along with their special midfield group. covid derailed year one, and then year 2 together they performed and fell 1 goal short in the ff against the natl champs. now they haven't replaced that middie group for 2 years even with 60 guys including transfers on the roster.

that doesn't even seem possible with recruiting to unc. is it the system/personnel choices? where is the guy zisner who dug them out of the hole with 2 bombs vs. hopkins? he's taken 7 shots since.

you can't lay 6 eggs on offense in a season and expect great results. somehow, they need to find 6 guys who can score in their offense.

[SkipPass]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- Ohio State — a complete mess
- Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

Teams that rely on the transfer portal, instead of developing the players they recruited are in for a rude awakening.

So far - the wholesale use of the transfer portal hasn’t produced any tangible results. I don’t see it happening this year either.

rutgers may have set a record for getting in the tourney and not beating anybody, but once there they made quarters and challenged ff, and then made the ff. that's pretty tangible given their record on that prior.

Short term gain at the expense of younger players. Watching on TV this May. Brecht already back in the portal.

[wgdsr]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- Ohio State — a complete mess
- Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

Teams that rely on the transfer portal, instead of developing the players they recruited are in for a rude awakening.

So far - the wholesale use of the transfer portal hasn’t produced any tangible results. I don’t see it happening this year either.

rutgers may have set a record for getting in the tourney and not beating anybody, but once there they made quarters and challenged ff, and then made the ff. that's pretty tangible given their record on that prior.

Short term gain at the expense of younger players. Watching on TV this May. Brecht already back in the portal.

"So far - the wholesale use of the transfer portal hasn’t produced any tangible results. I don’t see it happening this year either."

[runrussellrun]

Wholesale, vs "retail", is 4 vs "10", conversely.

Four players. (we roughly pay 40%, if connected, for many things: booze, pickleball or tennis racquets, skis.....even homes )

Just, what do WE do, about the quibble of what "use" , actually refers too. "wholesale use "

Starters ? 3rd option SSD ?

Our guess, and a good new subject matter, is overall Div. 1 transfers that eat into the scholarship budget ?

Kind of a "win win" , especially if that impact transfer players bite, out of that twelve pt. six, if fully funded, pie equals the amount of what a "preferred walkon" gets after freshman year. Essentially a couple hundred bucks.......NOT...a cocktail party lie.

[SkipPass]

Wholesale, vs "retail", is 4 vs "10", conversely.

Four players. (we roughly pay 40%, if connected, for many things: booze, pickleball or tennis racquets, skis.....even homes )

Just, what do WE do, about the quibble of what "use" , actually refers too. "wholesale use "

Starters ? 3rd option SSD ?

Our guess, and a good new subject matter, is overall Div. 1 transfers that eat into the scholarship budget ?

Kind of a "win win" , especially if that impact transfer players bite, out of that twelve pt. six, if fully funded, pie equals the amount of what a "preferred walkon" gets after freshman year. Essentially a couple hundred bucks.......NOT...a cocktail party lie.

In English please

[rolldodge]

Don't know anything about their internal team dynamics but the evidence is there for people who want to run with the "going heavy in the portal is bad for team culture/chemistry" narrative:

- Jax — kinda fell apart, losing games they shouldn't
- Ohio State — a complete mess
- Rutgers — really struggled in conference play, will miss tournament
- Georgetown — they've figured things out but that ugly start almost torpedoed their entire season
- UNC — meh

Is it a coincidence that all of those teams have performed below expectations? (We'll see about Georgetown, maybe they go on a run.) Maybe it is!

Maryland 2022 an exception to the rule? 4 or 5 transfers including two top offensive threats.