Remember that case.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 12:18 pmThis is the event that changed my parents behavior re supervision.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 11:01 amMy cousin’s husband was killed by a serial sniper in the 1970s. We were terrified to play outside after dark. Shot him as he was getting into his car….the DC sniper reminded me of it.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 10:43 am“Why did this so-called Golden Age of Serial Killers end when it did?DMac wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 9:34 amAs noted, a lot of room for improvement, yes. In some respects it was better, IMO, though.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 30, 2023 7:45 amOf course not "all bad"; just not "better".DMac wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 8:13 pmThis is true but I like how everyone is going to tell us how bad it was in the 50s with no experience.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Sat Apr 29, 2023 7:37 pmEvery additional day, an increasingly irrelevant perspective.
Since the only constant is change, what are “conservatives” conserving? Are they just pissin’ in the wind?
I lived in Japan, the north, the south, and in Germany in the 50s.
Lot of room for improvement but it wasn't all bad, folks, promise you.
Unless you were a white, straight man in America...and I'm not so sure even that was "better", though relatively so...
Given thread topic, do you disagree?
I'm guessing you agree.
Kids played outside, weren't subjected to the vile cesspool that is social media, families sat
down at the dinner table, far fewer being raised by stepdads and stepmoms, parents number
one priority wasn't to be their children's best friend, didn't pay thousands for nine year olds to
to be on a ball team and travel hundreds of miles to play a game, the sugar loaded garbage
that is fast foods wasn't obese America's daily diet, people with ball sacks showered in the
boy's locker room after gym class, those without in the girl's locker room, was pretty simple.
Given the choice of being a nine-year-old in the 1959 world or a nine-year-old in the 2023
world I would choose the 1959 world every single time. Sure there is much that is better but
I don't think I knew one kid who was on Ritalin, anxiety and Xanax wasn't the norm (odd how
few mass murders there were back then, eh?), oh, and you could hitch hike from NY to San
Francisco and feel relatively safe about doing it.
First off, there were societal changes. As Holes points out, the Seventies saw a lot of killers preying on hitchhikers with no compunction about getting into a car with a stranger. “What ends up happening is, as a result of these crimes, women stop hitchhiking,” he says. “So now that victim pool is no longer there.” Murderers like the Golden State Killer and the Night Stalker — who broke into homes — were then deterred by the rise in home security systems. That’s why in the Nineties — when the children of Vietnam vets had grown up — serial killers mainly targeted sex workers.”
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu ... 21705/amp/
Interesting look at this period of horror. I would argue we are still beset by these creatures, but they act out in paroxysms of violence, not in slow “stalks”.
But the real question remains, “what is the crucible of this sociopathy?” I have a bad feeling there is and will be quite a large “bill” due in about ten years. If society fractures further under onslaught of rapid social dislocation from climate change and worker displacement (automation), all bets are off.
"Katherine Mary Lyon (aged 10) and Sheila Mary Lyon (aged 12) were sisters who disappeared without a trace during a March 25, 1975[1] trip to a shopping mall in the Washington, D.C. suburb of Wheaton, Maryland. Known colloquially as The Lyon Sisters, their case resulted in one of the largest police investigations in Washington metropolitan area history.
In 2013, a team of cold case investigators with the Montgomery County, Maryland, police made a break in the case. They focused on Lloyd Lee Welch, Jr., then serving a lengthy prison sentence in Delaware for child sexual abuse, the culmination of a long criminal record that had begun a few years after the girls' disappearance with a burglary arrest in their jurisdiction. In September 2017, Welch pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder for the abduction and murder of the two sisters.[2] It had long been "one of the most high-profile unsolved cases in the D.C. area."[3] The girls' remains have never been found."
"Over a year later, in July 2015, Welch, then serving a lengthy sentence in Delaware on a child-molestation conviction, was indicted on first-degree felony murder for his alleged involvement in the deaths of Katherine and Sheila Lyon. He was also charged with abduction with intent to defile. The location of any remains of the girls' bodies is still unknown. Had Welch been brought to trial without the girls' bodies entered into evidence, it would have been the longest time to have elapsed between a murder and a trial in a bodiless murder conviction.[4]
Ultimately, in September 2017, Welch pleaded guilty to two counts of first-degree murder for the abduction and killing of Katherine and Shelia Lyon in 1975. He received two 48-year sentences for the two counts of first degree felony murder he was facing."
This timeline, 18 years old in 1975, would have put Welch's childhood in the "halcyon" days of the late '50s and '60s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_o ... heila_Lyon
"This is the event that changed my parents behavior re supervision."
Listen to what Gail says at the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8Broz8Pjug
Classmate and good friend strangled in the shower by her 15 year old neighbor, 1970.
19 years old, went off to Rochester for college, sweet girl, nice looking.
All I can find on it.
Another one not so long after that stabbed multiple times (20-30) in a real freaky murder.Karen Sue Coleman
Grew up in Seneca Falls NY. Was living at 263 Park Ave. in Rochester. Was strangled by her 15 year old neighbor.
Another classmate and friend, also nice and good looking. Can't find anything on that one.
Beth Monteverdi....very good looking girls in that family.