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Re: MAC 2023
Does Stevenson have a chance to beat York in the MAC Commonwealth championship? Is this a one bid league? I feel like it would have to be?
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After seeing them tonight at Messiah? In a word.... No
Messiah had only 20 or so dressed, was missing several regulars and played several guys play completely out of position yet it was 12-9 with about 3 min to play.
Stevenson should be a lot more worried about Eastern than York.
Re: MAC 2023
After seeing them tonight at Messiah? In a word.... NoNElaxtalent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:58 pm [quote=laxrules post_id=453692 time=<a href="tel:1681701348">1681701348</a> user_id=684]
Does Stevenson have a chance to beat York in the MAC Commonwealth championship?
Messiah had only 20 or so dressed, was missing several regulars and played several guys play completely out of position yet it was 12-9 with about 3 min to play.
Stevenson should be a lot more worried about Eastern than York.
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Thank you, what happened with messiah that they don't have more players? Injuries? Sickness?
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Re: MAC 2023
Thank you, what happened with messiah that they don't have more players? Injuries? Sickness?laxrules wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 10:12 pmAfter seeing them tonight at Messiah? In a word.... NoNElaxtalent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:58 pm [quote=laxrules post_id=453692 time=<a href="tel:1681701348">1681701348</a> user_id=684]
Does Stevenson have a chance to beat York in the MAC Commonwealth championship?
Messiah had only 20 or so dressed, was missing several regulars and played several guys play completely out of position yet it was 12-9 with about 3 min to play.
Stevenson should be a lot more worried about Eastern than York.
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Re: MAC 2023
Messiah and Widener having themselves a game out in Chester. MAC playoff implications in play.
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it is tough to get up for every game, but I am sure that both Stevenson and York will be ready for tomorrow as I imagine that only the AQ will get into the tourney and having it at home will be of paramount importance. How much does Stevenson's senior leadership help them? can #14 go tomorrow night. Can York's seeming advantage at the faceoff X and in the goal manifest itselfNElaxtalent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:58 pmAfter seeing them tonight at Messiah? In a word.... No
Messiah had only 20 or so dressed, was missing several regulars and played several guys play completely out of position yet it was 12-9 with about 3 min to play.
Stevenson should be a lot more worried about Eastern than York.
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Agree on all, easily the marquee MAC-C regular season match-up. Based on what I've seen, I'd take York by a comfortable margin (in the 17-11 to 19-13 vacinity).Asgot wrote: ↑Tue Apr 25, 2023 9:54 amit is tough to get up for every game, but I am sure that both Stevenson and York will be ready for tomorrow as I imagine that only the AQ will get into the tourney and having it at home will be of paramount importance. How much does Stevenson's senior leadership help them? can #14 go tomorrow night. Can York's seeming advantage at the faceoff X and in the goal manifest itselfNElaxtalent wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:58 pmAfter seeing them tonight at Messiah? In a word.... No
Messiah had only 20 or so dressed, was missing several regulars and played several guys play completely out of position yet it was 12-9 with about 3 min to play.
Stevenson should be a lot more worried about Eastern than York.
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If Stevenson was a second faster with their ball movement, they would have about 3 or 4 wide open step downs during this 1st quarter. That backside one more is WIDE open.
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Re: MAC 2023
Who is going to take a stab at all conference players for MAC 2023?
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OTYAbeFroeman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:59 pm Who is going to take a stab at all conference players for MAC 2023?
Offensive Player of the Year: Chad Teresky, Messiah
Defensive Player of the Year: Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Specialist of the Year: Vinny Facciponti, York
Rookie of the Year: Ryan Kazella, York
Coach of the Year: Brandon Childs, York
FIRST TEAM
Attack Chad Teresky, Messiah
Attack Will Harnick, York
Attack Nick Fanelli, Eastern
Midfield Robbie Wiley, Hood
Midfield Alex Kiviniemi, Lebanon Valley
Midfield Ryan Coleman, Stevenson
Midfield Chris Fanelli, Eastern
Defender Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Defender Brent Blackmon, York
Defender Ryan Quinn, Stevenson
Long Pole Midfield Ethan Greene, York
Short Stick Specialist Zach Mentzer, York
Faceoff Specialist Vinny Facciponti, York
Faceoff Specialist Patrick McClain, Eastern
Goalie Justin Scorese, Stevenson
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Deep, very thoughtful compilation. You certainly have a passion for the MAC as a whole, thank you for taking the time to share.DeepPocket wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:22 amOTYAbeFroeman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:59 pm Who is going to take a stab at all conference players for MAC 2023?
Offensive Player of the Year: Chad Teresky, Messiah
Defensive Player of the Year: Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Specialist of the Year: Vinny Facciponti, York
Rookie of the Year: Ryan Kazella, York
Coach of the Year: Brandon Childs, York
FIRST TEAM
Attack Chad Teresky, Messiah
Attack Will Harnick, York
Attack Nick Fanelli, Eastern
Midfield Robbie Wiley, Hood
Midfield Alex Kiviniemi, Lebanon Valley
Midfield Ryan Coleman, Stevenson
Midfield Chris Fanelli, Eastern
Defender Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Defender Brent Blackmon, York
Defender Ryan Quinn, Stevenson
Long Pole Midfield Ethan Greene, York
Short Stick Specialist Zach Mentzer, York
Faceoff Specialist Vinny Facciponti, York
Faceoff Specialist Patrick McClain, Eastern
Goalie Justin Scorese, Stevenson
The inclusion of the LVC & Hood Mids surprised me a bit as I thought I might have just seen them at their best. Your inclusion reaffirms what I saw.
In my comparatively limited observation, Ethan Green was the most impressive Defensive Player I saw this season however I will defer to Deep for his much wider view of the full season.
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Re: MAC 2023
Haven't watched much MACtion this year but how did Mayer do? He got a ton of preseason hype and was terrific as a freshman last year.DeepPocket wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:22 amOTYAbeFroeman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:59 pm Who is going to take a stab at all conference players for MAC 2023?
Offensive Player of the Year: Chad Teresky, Messiah
Defensive Player of the Year: Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Specialist of the Year: Vinny Facciponti, York
Rookie of the Year: Ryan Kazella, York
Coach of the Year: Brandon Childs, York
FIRST TEAM
Attack Chad Teresky, Messiah
Attack Will Harnick, York
Attack Nick Fanelli, Eastern
Midfield Robbie Wiley, Hood
Midfield Alex Kiviniemi, Lebanon Valley
Midfield Ryan Coleman, Stevenson
Midfield Chris Fanelli, Eastern
Defender Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Defender Brent Blackmon, York
Defender Ryan Quinn, Stevenson
Long Pole Midfield Ethan Greene, York
Short Stick Specialist Zach Mentzer, York
Faceoff Specialist Vinny Facciponti, York
Faceoff Specialist Patrick McClain, Eastern
Goalie Justin Scorese, Stevenson
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Re: MAC 2023
nice list, thanks for putting this together.DeepPocket wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 7:22 amOTYAbeFroeman wrote: ↑Thu Apr 27, 2023 4:59 pm Who is going to take a stab at all conference players for MAC 2023?
Offensive Player of the Year: Chad Teresky, Messiah
Defensive Player of the Year: Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Specialist of the Year: Vinny Facciponti, York
Rookie of the Year: Ryan Kazella, York
Coach of the Year: Brandon Childs, York
FIRST TEAM
Attack Chad Teresky, Messiah
Attack Will Harnick, York
Attack Nick Fanelli, Eastern
Midfield Robbie Wiley, Hood
Midfield Alex Kiviniemi, Lebanon Valley
Midfield Ryan Coleman, Stevenson
Midfield Chris Fanelli, Eastern
Defender Matt Wilson, Stevenson
Defender Brent Blackmon, York
Defender Ryan Quinn, Stevenson
Long Pole Midfield Ethan Greene, York
Short Stick Specialist Zach Mentzer, York
Faceoff Specialist Vinny Facciponti, York
Faceoff Specialist Patrick McClain, Eastern
Goalie Justin Scorese, Stevenson
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Re: MAC 2023
Having seen Stevenson and York, I would go Greene over Wilson for DPOY. Greene is a freaking monster in the middle of the field - midfielders run for their life when he is around. I think Quinn is slightly better than Wilson as well.
Also, goalie stats are very underwhelming for the conference - for example, Scorese at .502? Majority of starters are at 50% or under - not sure Keller (York .612) has started enough games to get 1st team?
Also, goalie stats are very underwhelming for the conference - for example, Scorese at .502? Majority of starters are at 50% or under - not sure Keller (York .612) has started enough games to get 1st team?
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Re: MAC 2023
Mayer is as advertised, terrific. Drawing the top cover man from the likes of Gettysburg, RIT, Salisbury, Amherst etc., along with a consistent quick slide, has certainly impacted his numbers. But it also has opened up massive opportunities for Harnick et al, as evidenced by the jump in production. Believe the hype.Not Suitable wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:46 am Haven't watched much MACtion this year but how did Mayer do? He got a ton of preseason hype and was terrific as a freshman last year.
NElaxtalent wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 8:43 am …In my comparatively limited observation, Ethan Green was the most impressive Defensive Player I saw this season however I will defer to Deep for his much wider view of the full season.
DPOTY is a tough one. LSM, close, and goalies all provide different metrics to compare and contrast. Greene has been excellent on the eyes, and with the stat lines to back it up. How many on this site have helped me see it is, defenders, and more specifically close D, are difficult to quantify using only the available stat lines. While there are many with more GBs & CTOs etc, Wilson has played some of the best offensive threats in the country at close and, to my observations, has done a darn good job. The case can be made for many York D and LSM too. If it goes to anyone else I would not be surprised, but being a York homer, I tried to take extra precautions to not make this a “First Team All-York” list.
(see above for my explanation of Greene/DPOTY take)LILaxGuy08 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 11:13 am… goalie stats are very underwhelming for the conference - for example, Scorese at .502? Majority of starters are at 50% or under - not sure Keller (York .612) has started enough games to get 1st team?
Agreed. Scorese gets the nod on his stats IMO due to the GP/minutes and strength of opponents. If York had one goalie this season, he would likely have a better resume For this accolade.
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Re: MAC 2023
Mayer is very good, but Harnick is having a much better and an outstanding season which I do not credit solely due to the factors mentioned. And far fewer turnovers.
As for MAC Coach of the Year, I have some doubts. York's wins are all against teams they were expected to and should beat, but they have lost every game against better competition (even if most were very close). And the RIT non-TO? I know they lost a ton of talent and experience from last year and I can't really comment on other coaches/programs, but it seems like some other teams have more challenges but are making some strides nonetheless.
As for MAC Coach of the Year, I have some doubts. York's wins are all against teams they were expected to and should beat, but they have lost every game against better competition (even if most were very close). And the RIT non-TO? I know they lost a ton of talent and experience from last year and I can't really comment on other coaches/programs, but it seems like some other teams have more challenges but are making some strides nonetheless.
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Re: MAC 2023
Looking at the last regular season game, and how the playoffs should shake out.
York over Widener
Stevenson over Alvernia
Eastern over hood.
Messiah over Albright
That should leave
Messiah vs widener for play in game Monday
York (1) vs Widener
Stevenson(2) vs Eastern
York vs Stevenson Saturday
Sunday the brackets get announced.
York over Widener
Stevenson over Alvernia
Eastern over hood.
Messiah over Albright
That should leave
Messiah vs widener for play in game Monday
York (1) vs Widener
Stevenson(2) vs Eastern
York vs Stevenson Saturday
Sunday the brackets get announced.
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Agree on all, though I'd keep an on the Eastern vs Stevenson game...Laxattackjack wrote: ↑Fri Apr 28, 2023 1:26 pm Looking at the last regular season game, and how the playoffs should shake out.
York over Widener
Stevenson over Alvernia
Eastern over hood.
Messiah over Albright
That should leave
Messiah vs widener for play in game Monday
York (1) vs Widener
Stevenson(2) vs Eastern
York vs Stevenson Saturday
Sunday the brackets get announced.