Johns Hopkins 2023

[jhu06]

Boy pretty quiet around here - little nervous perhaps? Ernie just got the notes up which seems a little late too. Hopefully the team is angry and confident after letting one slip away. It's no secret Ohio State has not played that well on the road and they struggle to score against what would be considered upper echelon teams: 8 against UNC (was a W however)/6 against UVA/13 against Cornell slightly misleading Cornell led 16-10 with 9 minute left/3 against Notre Dame/11 against Rutgers/9 against Penn State/11 against Maryland - 61 goals in those 7 games - averaging under 9 goals a game. Seems pretty clear - get to 13. Of course easier said than done - must do better on face-offs and they are not easy to guard with 7 guys netting 9 goals or more though Shean/Myers and Borda are a little top heavy (Myers and Borda were high school teammates of Marcille BTW).
The shame of the Penn State game - could have had a realistic chance of sewing up the #1 seed if Rutgers defeats MD in New Jersey

Tried to do scenarios if Hopkins wins on Saturday but the tables turned out like crap - suffice to say I think we are Wolverine and Scarlet Knight fans for a day
A win saturday pretty much guarantees playing at home in the first round but does not get you the bye to the semis

Nothing against the lacrosse team but there's a ton going on this time of year and it's hard to move pieces to watch games and replays and then take time to argue about them with those who were there, saw the games live etc. There's also the fact that 13 games and 245 pages in we've pretty much covered things over and over and there isn't much media coverage to generate new things to discuss. We know that certain players are maddeningly inconsistent and the staff will play them until the season is over because they flash in the practices or whatever. Last week was a bad loss, but we're in the mix for the big ten and will for sure play in the ncaa tournament. It's a question of on what terms.

University finally woke up-even for a brief moment and started showcasing some of its lacrosse lore in media form with some zimmerman talking to the kiddos. This is years overdue. Now that corona is over, even to certain areas of society, maybe they can start producing positive unifying things about the school and world for alumni and students like this again.
https://twitter.com/jhumenslacrosse

The big ten got a new commissioner. No idea what this means for us or lacrosse but looks like he's a long island guy who went to Haverford so at least some familiarity with the sport and us.

[51percentcorn]

There's also the fact that 13 games and 245 pages in we've pretty much covered things over and over and there isn't much media coverage to generate new things to discuss.

SO why stop now? The team is about to play its most important game of the season - as they will get more and more important each time out.

Last week was a bad loss, but we're in the mix for the big ten and will for sure play in the ncaa tournament. It's a question of on what terms.

Not true at all - go on a 4 game losing streak and you can put the Hopkins players names back on the tee sheet for that second week-end in May because they wont be playing lacrosse. This game is huge - now way more important than the last home game - if the other BIG home teams win this week-end and Hopkins loses every team is 2-2 and nothing is off the table including playing @ someplace like Michigan or Penn State again in the first round and possibly missing playing at home in the BIG.

The big ten got a new commissioner. No idea what this means for us or lacrosse but looks like he's a long island guy who went to Haverford so at least some familiarity with the sport and us

While he might know which end if the stick is which - it probably doesn't mean anything. Let's put it this way - he's way more concerned about Caitlin Clark going back to Iowa then he is about Johns Hopkins.

[flalax22]

Pellegrino made a returned to Homewood. Here’s hoping some of that intensity, grit and toughness wears off on this years Jays

[jhu06]

There's also the fact that 13 games and 245 pages in we've pretty much covered things over and over and there isn't much media coverage to generate new things to discuss.

SO why stop now? The team is about to play its most important game of the season - as they will get more and more important each time out.

Last week was a bad loss, but we're in the mix for the big ten and will for sure play in the ncaa tournament. It's a question of on what terms.

Not true at all - go on a 4 game losing streak and you can put the Hopkins players names back on the tee sheet for that second week-end in May because they wont be playing lacrosse. This game is huge - now way more important than the last home game - if the other BIG home teams win this week-end and Hopkins loses every team is 2-2 and nothing is off the table including playing @ someplace like Michigan or Penn State again in the first round and possibly missing playing at home in the BIG.

The big ten got a new commissioner. No idea what this means for us or lacrosse but looks like he's a long island guy who went to Haverford so at least some familiarity with the sport and us

While he might know which end if the stick is which - it probably doesn't mean anything. Let's put it this way - he's way more concerned about Caitlin Clark going back to Iowa then he is about Johns Hopkins.

-Ohio State football spring game is saturday at noon. Buckeye faithful will be focused elsewhere.
-We are michigan and especially rutgers fans.
-Rutgers is the only game since Navy where the save percentage is over 40 percent.
-Going back to your angelus stuff. 6 assists or more seems to be the magical number for winning games offensively. need more distributors. Degnon is at 28 goals and 2 assists which is nearly coppersmith (who many are saying was the fastest man in the sport in his day) territory.
-they've only won the faceoff battle 3 times all year. So much for the we're 3 deep and mazzone/hawley stuff.
-on a positive note turnovers have fallen 4 weeks in a row, which is hard to believe.
-they've been outscored 30-18 in quarters 2/3 the last 4 weeks. You let teams back into games and you're at the beach in May. Need to be better mentally for 60+ minutes and Milliman needs to be able to counter the other staff faster. Maybe the pep band can work on enhanced repertoire to make sure the energy doesn't fall off. That or add something to the gatorade.
-I know things have changed but I don't remember 2 transfers who've had the seasons that mazzone and melendez have had and certainly not together. Rewkowski famously.
-Too many offensive players look like what we saw the last decade or so of the petro era. Every few weeks they'll have a monster game and then they'll go quiet. The offense looks too passive. As I said before the season, this year goes only as far as the junior offensive midfielders will take it. If Grime Dog McGoals, Peshko, and co are motoring we are going to win.
-women upset michigan yesterday after almost beating the terps (if the refs hadn't awarded a non goal to) who they had been 0-24 against previously. Maybe Tucker will let the new guy, who seems to have them headed places fast, or even the current players be the public face of the team. Seems like a helicopter coach situation. Every story you read about him it's half about her, quotes from her, and her legacy the way petro used to spend most of his time talking about his playing days and early success.

[nyjay]

-Rutgers is the only game since Navy where the save percentage is over 40 percent.
-they've only won the faceoff battle 3 times all year. So much for the we're 3 deep and mazzone/hawley stuff.

Oddly, @laxreference, still has the Jays in the upper right quadrant on his specialist matrix. Guess the adjustments are doing a lot of work.

I think the Jays are a better team than OSU. And they're at home, for homecoming. They should win and cover the spread pretty easily. But yet, I'm not feeling particularly confident.

[jhu06]

-Rutgers is the only game since Navy where the save percentage is over 40 percent.
-they've only won the faceoff battle 3 times all year. So much for the we're 3 deep and mazzone/hawley stuff.

Oddly, @laxreference, still has the Jays in the upper right quadrant on his specialist matrix. Guess the adjustments are doing a lot of work.

I think the Jays are a better team than OSU. And they're at home, for homecoming. They should win and cover the spread pretty easily. But yet, I'm not feeling particularly confident.

as 51 pointed out smartly as he usually does we celebrated the renaissance until last weekends result. it's a 3 game season now. you win you play on and we're in better position to now than we've been in awhile.

[nyjay]

-Rutgers is the only game since Navy where the save percentage is over 40 percent.
-they've only won the faceoff battle 3 times all year. So much for the we're 3 deep and mazzone/hawley stuff.

Oddly, @laxreference, still has the Jays in the upper right quadrant on his specialist matrix. Guess the adjustments are doing a lot of work.

I think the Jays are a better team than OSU. And they're at home, for homecoming. They should win and cover the spread pretty easily. But yet, I'm not feeling particularly confident.

as 51 pointed out smartly as he usually does we celebrated the renaissance until last weekend's result. it's a 3 game season now. you win you play on and we're in better position to now than we've been in awhile.

I prefer "restoration" but yes. Last weekend's result was a bit jarring (and they were so close).

That said, I don't think it's a three game season. I very much believe that one more win gets them into the NCAA tournament. Two more wins probably gets them a seed.

[jhu06]

-Rutgers is the only game since Navy where the save percentage is over 40 percent.
-they've only won the faceoff battle 3 times all year. So much for the we're 3 deep and mazzone/hawley stuff.

Oddly, @laxreference, still has the Jays in the upper right quadrant on his specialist matrix. Guess the adjustments are doing a lot of work.

I think the Jays are a better team than OSU. And they're at home, for homecoming. They should win and cover the spread pretty easily. But yet, I'm not feeling particularly confident.

as 51 pointed out smartly as he usually does we celebrated the renaissance until last weekend's result. it's a 3 game season now. you win you play on and we're in better position to now than we've been in awhile.

I prefer "restoration" but yes. Last weekend's result was a bit jarring (and they were so close).

That said, I don't think it's a three game season. I very much believe that one more win gets them into the NCAA tournament. Two more wins probably gets them a seed.

They were on a winning streak but there are still issues and concerns. The offensive depth thing is a fun narrative, but if you're relying on guys down the lineup it means your alphas aren't winning you games and in crunch time there's only so many guys you can put on the field and so many minutes to go around. The good players need to be better, coached better, the lineups need to change, or the rest of the roster needs to pick up the slack.

We'll see what kind of mental state the buckeyes come with to Homewood. Their coach came unglued last weekend and was broken tactically and emotionally by Tilliman. That kind of experience can either break a team or fire it up.

[51percentcorn]

I don't know how to put in terms of a 3 game or not a 3 game season but in some ways it's a one game season - Lose to Ohio State and you could be staring up at Maryland going to College Park or as I said before other scenarios are just as unpleasant - staring up at both Penn State and Maryland and now playing a first round game is a distinct possibility or everybody is 2-2 and who knows what happens then. The season is not over with a loss but all of a sudden the weevil has a huge wobble. Beat Ohio State and you could theoretically be all alone at the top of the BIG again or at least you are tied and you have positive momentum going to College Park to play for one of the byes and while not knowing all the permutations it would seem logical if you finish no worse than 3-2 in the League - a first round game at home is a high probability.

Ohio State football spring game is saturday at noon. Buckeye faithful will be focused elsewhere.

?????? Are you telling me some of the lacrosse players are skipping the Hopkins game for the Spring Game? Otherwise Who cares

Rutgers is the only game since Navy where the save percentage is over 40 percent.

This is unfortunately very important

Going back to your angelus stuff. 6 assists or more seems to be the magical number for winning games offensively. need more distributors. Degnon is at 28 goals and 2 assists which is nearly coppersmith (who many are saying was the fastest man in the sport in his day) territory.

This point is lost on me - plenty of goal scorers don't have assist numbers - not their job - Benn cames to mind but Coppersmith and Degnon couldn't be more different in terms of what they do on the field

I know things have changed but I don't remember 2 transfers who've had the seasons that mazzone and melendez have had and certainly not together. Rewkowski famously.

Why Reskowski "famously"? He was a very very good player - but his Hopkins numbers in 2004 were very good but not eye popping 26/11 but that team was loaded and they didn't really need more - in 2005 of course he barely made it back from an ACL to contribute some to the title.
The Petro transfer that was the difference maker was Bocklett. The two greatest transfers in the NCAA era were likely DeSimone and Schneck. Dressel was a transfer technically but never played for Harvard and played 4 years for Hop.

women upset michigan yesterday after almost beating the terps (if the refs hadn't awarded a non goal to) who they had been 0-24 against previously. Maybe Tucker will let the new guy, who seems to have them headed places fast, or even the current players be the public face of the team. Seems like a helicopter coach situation. Every story you read about him it's half about her, quotes from her, and her legacy the way petro used to spend most of his time talking about his playing days and early success.

This is an odd take. First, doesn't sound like Janine at all. Second - "every story"? How many stories can you find about Hopkins women's lacrosse? The IL recap of the MIchigan win doesn't mention Tucker once - neither does the jhusports recap. I can see that Ed Lee did a story a few weeks ago that I can't read but by the title the story was supposed to be a take on how the players are adjusting to McCormick. Big Whoop. BTW - it's the butterfly wings effect on that Maryland goal/no goal - if that wasn't a goal and had been ruled as such (I can't tell) the game wasn't over by any stretch. Maryland could have gathered up the rebound scored and gone on a 5 goal run for all anybody knows. It wasn't the last play of the game with Hopkins up.

[OCanada]

I don't know how to put in terms of a 3 game or not a 3 game season but in some ways it's a one game season - Lose to Ohio State and you could be staring up at Maryland going to College Park or as I said before other scenarios are just as unpleasant - staring up at both Penn State and Maryland and now playing a first round game is a distinct possibility or everybody is 2-2 and who knows what happens then. The season is not over with a loss but all of a sudden the weevil has a huge wobble. Beat Ohio State and you could theoretically be all alone at the top of the BIG again or at least you are tied and you have positive momentum going to College Park to play for one of the byes and while not knowing all the permutations it would seem logical if you finish no worse than 3-2 in the League - a first round game at home is a high probability.

Ohio State football spring game is saturday at noon. Buckeye faithful will be focused elsewhere.

?????? Are you telling me some of the lacrosse players are skipping the Hopkins game for the Spring Game? Otherwise Who cares

Rutgers is the only game since Navy where the save percentage is over 40 percent.

This is unfortunately very important

Going back to your angelus stuff. 6 assists or more seems to be the magical number for winning games offensively. need more distributors. Degnon is at 28 goals and 2 assists which is nearly coppersmith (who many are saying was the fastest man in the sport in his day) territory.

This point is lost on me - plenty of goal scorers don't have assist numbers - not their job - Benn cames to mind but Coppersmith and Degnon couldn't be more different in terms of what they do on the field

I know things have changed but I don't remember 2 transfers who've had the seasons that mazzone and melendez have had and certainly not together. Rewkowski famously.

Why Reskowski "famously"? He was a very very good player - but his Hopkins numbers in 2004 were very good but not eye popping 26/11 but that team was loaded and they didn't really need more - in 2005 of course he barely made it back from an ACL to contribute some to the title.
The Petro transfer that was the difference maker was Bocklett. The two greatest transfers in the NCAA era were likely DeSimone and Schneck. Dressel was a transfer technically but never played for Harvard and played 4 years for Hop.

women upset michigan yesterday after almost beating the terps (if the refs hadn't awarded a non goal to) who they had been 0-24 against previously. Maybe Tucker will let the new guy, who seems to have them headed places fast, or even the current players be the public face of the team. Seems like a helicopter coach situation. Every story you read about him it's half about her, quotes from her, and her legacy the way petro used to spend most of his time talking about his playing days and early success.

This is an odd take. First, doesn't sound like Janine at all. Second - "every story"? How many stories can you find about Hopkins women's lacrosse? The IL recap of the MIchigan win doesn't mention Tucker once - neither does the jhusports recap. I can see that Ed Lee did a story a few weeks ago that I can't read but by the title the story was supposed to be a take on how the players are adjusting to McCormick. Big Whoop. BTW - it's the butterfly wings effect on that Maryland goal/no goal - if that wasn't a goal and had been ruled as such (I can't tell) the game wasn't over by any stretch. Maryland could have gathered up the rebound scored and gone on a 5 goal run for all anybody knows. It wasn't the last play of the game with Hopkins up.

Des and Schneck. Then there was a pretty good dman from VA amd Del Dressel. Clearing was never quite so easy again for 4 years. Great lax IQ and ability. Agree re Bocklett.

[molo]

Also Ledoyen from Virginia, whose hs coach, George Mitchell, called him the best he’d ever coached, which is pretty high praise considering that at that time St. Paul’s along with BL, had a pretty impressive MSA history..
Ledoyen was never first team AA at Hopkins, but he was a key midfielder on the 1987 championship team. I believe he was maybe HM at UVA and second team at Hopkins.
Talking about Hazzlehurst (Gilman) or Moorehead (Towson) as UVA to Hopkins poles?

[Old Lax Fan]

The 1980 team also had Lance Schneck in addition to Brendon. Both were All Americans.

I don't recall Moorehead playing for Hopkins, but my memory is dim.

[BlueJaySince1947]

I believe this could be a blowout win for the Jays...say
17 - 8...

[get it to x]

Jays need to put on their "big boy" pants. Bucks will come with the body and Jays need to respond in kind.

[get it to x]

BTW, Morehead was a 2nd and HM AA with Hop. His running mate at Towson High, Tommy Keigler, was a HM once and a 1st team twice when W&L was Division !. That was one of the last of Bill Thomas' great Towson HS teams.

[get it to x]

Amazingly, until it broke, Keigler played with a wood stick while almost everyone had switched to plastic.

[78Jay]

Scott Baugher

[Old Lax Fan]

BTW, Morehead was a 2nd and HM AA with Hop. His running mate at Towson High, Tommy Keigler, was a HM once and a 1st team twice when W&L was Division !. That was one of the last of Bill Thomas' great Towson HS teams.

Thanks. I did not see some teams in the 1970s while living on the west coast. I missed seeing some great players.

[jhu06]

english mcdermott evans the starting midfield

[HopFan16]

Thunder delay. Looking like a 2:45pm earliest start. Likely later than that. Was a shame too because the crowd was shaping up to be great