Ivy League 2023

[Brownlax]

Brown with the upset win 12-11!! Strip by the D to end the game.

[blue angels]

Will/should the Ivy League only get 1 spot in the NCAA Tournament? Cornell and Princeton may not be top 10 teams. Who else is?

[RopeUnit]

Will/should the Ivy League only get 1 spot in the NCAA Tournament? Cornell and Princeton may not be top 10 teams. Who else is?

Should be a 1 bid league on the “eye test” who knows how the RPI plays out.

Could easily be 2 if Cornell doesn’t win the ILT

[bearlaxfan]

Lots left nationally to shake out but I think the Ivies are as likely to get 2 bids as not. 3 bids: Vegas loves that bet! No other conference (not named ACC or B1G) this year has done what "we" did last year to grab spots. Ivies acting/playing like a mid-major but no other mid stepping up.

It may come down to how many OOC losses hold up as 'good' losses, and that's not a good road to be on.

[faircornell]

Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League yesterday:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Leo Johnson, Yale: 8 points (4,4) vs Dartmouth, 5 points (4,1) vs BU
Griffin King, Brown: 6 points (4,2) vs Penn
Chris Lyons, Yale: 5 points (5,0) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Andrew Perry, Harvard: 4 points (3,1) vs Cornell
Jack Kelly, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Devon McLane, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Nick Ramsey, Yale: 18/23 Face-offs (75% vs Dartmouth, 18/28 (64%) vs BU

Defense:

Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

Other performances:

Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: 6 points (3,3) vs Syracuse
Quinn Moore: Dartmouth: 5 points (5,0) vs Yale
CJ Kirst, Cornell: 5 points (4,1) vs Harvard
Luke Dinola, Penn 4 points (4,0) vs Brown
Brandon Ventarola, Penn: 4 points (2,2) vs Brown
Alex Vardero, Princeton: 4 points (2,2) vs Syracuse
Jack Casscaden, Cornell: 12/16 Face-offs (75%) vs Harvard

Possible ROW:

Teddy Malone, Harvard (1,0)
William Sheehan, Yale (1,0)
Charlie Cave, Brown (0,1)

Suggestions, corrections welcomed.

[FannOLax]

Lots left nationally to shake out but I think the Ivies are as likely to get 2 bids as not. 3 bids: Vegas loves that bet! No other conference (not named ACC or B1G) this year has done what "we" did last year to grab spots. Ivies acting/playing like a mid-major but no other mid stepping up.

It may come down to how many OOC losses hold up as 'good' losses, and that's not a good road to be on.

Hmmm, Cuse's win over Princeton solidifies the case for five ACCs making the dance; and if six Ivies made it last year, six Big 10 teams can make it this year. That wouldn't leave many at-large spots for the Ivy. If Cornell beats Marquette and Army, and Yale beats Albany, then those two schools' only OOC losses would be to a good Penn State team, but the overall OOC record simply isn't nearly as good as last year and that could really bite the Ivy the way it bit the ACC last year.

[molo]

Lots of games left, but the only way I see two bids would be if Cornell goes undefeated up to the ILT, which would give them a win over AWP, but someone else wins the ILT. I doubt that anyone else would have the resume for an at large bid, but I’m not that familiar with everyone’s remaining schedules.

[The Orfling]

Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League yesterday:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Leo Johnson, Yale: 8 points (4,4) vs Dartmouth, 5 points (4,1) vs BU
Griffin King, Brown: 6 points (4,2) vs Penn
Chris Lyons, Yale: 5 points (5,0) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Andrew Perry, Harvard: 4 points (3,1) vs Cornell
Jack Kelly, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Devon McLane, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Nick Ramsey, Yale: 18/23 Face-offs (75% vs Dartmouth, 18/28 (64%) vs BU

Defense:

Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

Other performances:

Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: 6 points (3,3) vs Syracuse
Quinn Moore: Dartmouth: 5 points (5,0) vs Yale
CJ Kirst, Cornell: 5 points (4,1) vs Harvard
Luke Dinola, Penn 4 points (4,0) vs Brown
Brandon Ventarola, Penn: 4 points (2,2) vs Brown
Alex Vardero, Princeton: 4 points (2,2) vs Syracuse
Jack Casscaden, Cornell: 12/16 Face-offs (75%) vs Harvard

Possible ROW:

Teddy Malone, Harvard (1,0)
William Sheehan, Yale (1,0)
Charlie Cave, Brown (0,1)

Suggestions, corrections welcomed.

You are very good do this every week. One more Yalie who had notable day on defense:
Jack Stuzin, LSM: 4 GB, 4 CT, 1G vs. Dartmouth

[drunkmonkey30]

Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League yesterday:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Leo Johnson, Yale: 8 points (4,4) vs Dartmouth, 5 points (4,1) vs BU
Griffin King, Brown: 6 points (4,2) vs Penn
Chris Lyons, Yale: 5 points (5,0) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Andrew Perry, Harvard: 4 points (3,1) vs Cornell
Jack Kelly, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Devon McLane, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Nick Ramsey, Yale: 18/23 Face-offs (75% vs Dartmouth, 18/28 (64%) vs BU

Defense:

Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

Other performances:

Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: 6 points (3,3) vs Syracuse
Quinn Moore: Dartmouth: 5 points (5,0) vs Yale
CJ Kirst, Cornell: 5 points (4,1) vs Harvard
Luke Dinola, Penn 4 points (4,0) vs Brown
Brandon Ventarola, Penn: 4 points (2,2) vs Brown
Alex Vardero, Princeton: 4 points (2,2) vs Syracuse
Jack Casscaden, Cornell: 12/16 Face-offs (75%) vs Harvard

Possible ROW:

Teddy Malone, Harvard (1,0)
William Sheehan, Yale (1,0)
Charlie Cave, Brown (0,1)

Suggestions, corrections welcomed.

You are very good do this every week. One more Yalie who had notable day on defense:
Jack Stuzin, LSM: 4 GB, 4 CT, 1G vs. Dartmouth

I echo the Orfling's comments. Appreciate this post each week.
I'd consider Jack Casscaden for ROW.

[Can Opener]

I am not seeing the case for two bids from the Ivies unless Cornell loses in the ILT finals. Feel free to check my math, but I count only four Ivy wins against IL top 15 teams: Harvard over Cornell, Yale over Nova, Brown over Nova and Penn over Georgetown in the season opener. Princeton and Dartmouth do not have a win over a ranked opponent and even Cornell lacks a signature win as their two ranked victories came over Penn and OSU who are tied at #18 in the media poll.

Would one more regular season loss and the ILT finals loss knock the Big Red out of an at large bid? That would put them at 11-4 and still lacking a signature win, other than perhaps Army (currently #7 in the IL poll and #19 in RPI). There are no cupcakes ahead, with Marquette (wins over Mich and PSU), @Army, @Brown and Princeton remaining in the regular season.

To repeat my earlier caveat, there is almost no chance it plays out this way, but below is my swag at how the rest of the Ivy season will go. I am being a homer picking Brown over Yale this weekend at Reese, as I’m sure Vegas will disagree with me. A much healthier Brown State has shown they can run with anyone in the league. The other reason I have Brown over Yale, frankly, is that my head starts to hurt with the scenarios related to several teams bunched at 3-3. Brown came within 13 seconds of defeating Harvard and would be sitting pretty with three Ivy wins already. Those final ticks were very costly, however, with Harvard now owning the head-to-head tiebreaker. It’s not hard to imagine that Harvard has one more upset in them against Penn, Princeton or Yale.

Games in bold have already been played.

Cornell 5-1 W: @Yale, Penn, Dartmouth, @Brown, Princeton L: @Harvard
Penn 4-2 W: Princeton, Yale, @Harvard, Dartmouth L: @Cornell, @Brown
Princeton 4-2 W: Yale, Brown, @Dartmouth, Harvard L: @Penn, @Cornell
Brown 3-3 W: Penn, @Dartmouth, @Yale L: Harvard, @Princeton, Cornell
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Yale 2-4 W: Dartmouth, @Harvard L: Cornell, @Princeton, @Penn, Brown
Harvard 2-4 W: @Brown, Cornell L: @Dartmouth, Penn, @Princeton, Yale
Dartmouth 1-5 W: Harvard L: @Yale, @Cornell, Princeton, @Penn, Brown

RPI is more important than the IL media poll to be sure, so if you want to play around with those numbers, here you go: https://www.insidelacrosse.com/article/ ... duke/61110

If you want to geek out on the ILT tiebreakers, check out the details here:
https://ivyleague.com/sports/2018/4/17/ ... 80748.aspx

[molo]

More detailed analysis than mine but I agree with it.

[Can Opener]

More detailed analysis than mine but I agree with it.

[PicLax]

I think the only scenario where 2 Ivys make the tournament is if Cornell’s resume remains strong, but somebody else wins the ILT. Cornell the only Ivy with a chance for an at-large, should they not win the ILT. Perhaps Penn if they win out and make the ILT finals and there is carnage in other conferences, particularly ACC and B10.
Regarding prediction on which 4 make the ILT, I think odds slightly favor Harvard over Brown, joining Cornell, Penn and Princeton. Harvard has a legitimate shot to go at least 3 & 3, and the tiebreaker would put them in over Brown if Brown also 3 & 3. I think in order for Brown to make it, they’ll need to go 4 & 2, which would require a win over a likely pissed Cornell. Even in that scenario, should Harvard win 2 of their last 3, Brown would be out.

[RopeUnit]

RPI

11 - Yale
13 - Penn

Both have weak schedules remaining, wonder if they drop in RPI even by winning out. If not, maybe an ILT semifinal win would put them right in the mix for NCAA's? Top 10 RPI is probably a bubble in.

Probably worst case for Ivy teams is if Brown wins out, dragging Yale and Cornell RPI down but not having enough juice to be a bubble team themselves. ILT becomes winner take all.

[JHU69]

Pretty amazing that after pioneering heart transplantation Dr Barnard did this:
Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

[ICGrad]

Pretty amazing that after pioneering heart transplantation Dr Barnard did this:
Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

Well, he broke JoeWillie's heart, so sounds about right...

[FannOLax]

Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League yesterday:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Leo Johnson, Yale: 8 points (4,4) vs Dartmouth, 5 points (4,1) vs BU
Griffin King, Brown: 6 points (4,2) vs Penn
Chris Lyons, Yale: 5 points (5,0) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Andrew Perry, Harvard: 4 points (3,1) vs Cornell
Jack Kelly, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Devon McLane, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Nick Ramsey, Yale: 18/23 Face-offs (75% vs Dartmouth, 18/28 (64%) vs BU

Defense:

Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

Other performances:

Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: 6 points (3,3) vs Syracuse
Quinn Moore: Dartmouth: 5 points (5,0) vs Yale
CJ Kirst, Cornell: 5 points (4,1) vs Harvard
Luke Dinola, Penn 4 points (4,0) vs Brown
Brandon Ventarola, Penn: 4 points (2,2) vs Brown
Alex Vardero, Princeton: 4 points (2,2) vs Syracuse
Jack Casscaden, Cornell: 12/16 Face-offs (75%) vs Harvard

Possible ROW:

Teddy Malone, Harvard (1,0)
William Sheehan, Yale (1,0)
Charlie Cave, Brown (0,1)

Suggestions, corrections welcomed.

You are very good do this every week. One more Yalie who had notable day on defense:
Jack Stuzin, LSM: 4 GB, 4 CT, 1G vs. Dartmouth

Harvard sweeps the weekly awards, with goalie Barnard taking POW and Malone taking ROW.

I agree with Orfling about Jack Stuzin (of course, we both might be a wee bit partial to Yalies), although Brown defender first-year defender Trey Taylor made HM based on one goal and one ground ball. Perhaps someone can please add some color on his performance.

PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Christian Barnard, Harvard (Jr., G – Darien, Conn.
Made 16 saves in Harvard’s win over No. 4 Cornell
Also scooped up a career-best seven ground balls
Tallied five fourth quarter saves including three with under two minutes left ot preserve the Crimson lead
Was integral in the Harvard transition game, helping the team clear the ball on 22 of 24 attempts

ROOKIE OF THE WEEK
Teddy Malone, Harvard (Fr., A – Wilmington, Del.)
Had a solid game at attack in the Crimson’s win over Cornell, scoring one goal while adding a ground ball in the victory
The goal occurred with 26 seconds left in the first half, erasing what was a three-goal deficit

HONOR ROLL
Matt Brandau, Yale (Sr., A – Timonium, Md.)
Sam Cooper, Dartmouth (Fr., G – Rancho Santa Fe, Calif.)
Luke DiNola, Penn (So., A – Summit, N.J.)
Leo Johnson, Yale (So., A – Greenwich, Conn.)
Griffin King, Brown (Sr., M – Niskayuna, N.Y.)
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton (So., A – Bronxville, N.Y.)
Quin Moore, Dartmouth (So., A – Montclair, N.J.)
Trey Taylor, Brown (Fr., D – Tampa, Fla.)
https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/4/10/ha ... onors.aspx

[DALaxDad]

Hard to add any color on why Trey Taylor was singled out. The Bears have been using three primary defensemen since game 1, when Oscar Hertz was injured: Taylor, a freshman from Taft; Mark Witt, a junior from Andover, and Tyler Blackburn, a sophomore from Torey Pines. They have continued to improve and played well collectively against Penn. The Brown defensive scheme versus Penn rotated a lot of different guys toward Handley, including SSDMs, and morpfed from man to man to match-up zone. Witt had the key take-away at the end of the game to prevent Penn from getting off a tying shot.

[joewillie78]

Pretty amazing that after pioneering heart transplantation Dr Barnard did this:
Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

Well, he broke JoeWillie's heart, so sounds about right...

I'm a Jets fan. My heart is in about a million pieces, and the only thing that puts it back together each year is the great Cornell Lax team.
This loss definitely added a few pieces to the pile but unlike my beloved Jets, I have complete confidence in Buczek and Steven's to right the ship starting tomorrow.
Although, if they do sign Rodgers, just maybe that will take some pressure off the Lax team to heal my abused heart.
Gobigred
Joewillie78

[faircornell]

Some strong individual performances in the Ivy League yesterday:

Offense:

Matt Brandau, Yale: 9 points (6,3) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Leo Johnson, Yale: 8 points (4,4) vs Dartmouth, 5 points (4,1) vs BU
Griffin King, Brown: 6 points (4,2) vs Penn
Chris Lyons, Yale: 5 points (5,0) vs Dartmouth, 6 points (3,3) vs BU
Andrew Perry, Harvard: 4 points (3,1) vs Cornell
Jack Kelly, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Devon McLane, Brown: 3 points (3,0) vs Penn
Nick Ramsey, Yale: 18/23 Face-offs (75% vs Dartmouth, 18/28 (64%) vs BU

Defense:

Christian Barnard, Harvard: 16 saves, 67% vs Cornell

Other performances:

Coulter Mackesy, Princeton: 6 points (3,3) vs Syracuse
Quinn Moore: Dartmouth: 5 points (5,0) vs Yale
CJ Kirst, Cornell: 5 points (4,1) vs Harvard
Luke Dinola, Penn 4 points (4,0) vs Brown
Brandon Ventarola, Penn: 4 points (2,2) vs Brown
Alex Vardero, Princeton: 4 points (2,2) vs Syracuse
Jack Casscaden, Cornell: 12/16 Face-offs (75%) vs Harvard

Possible ROW:

Teddy Malone, Harvard (1,0)
William Sheehan, Yale (1,0)
Charlie Cave, Brown (0,1)

Suggestions, corrections welcomed.

You are very good do this every week. One more Yalie who had notable day on defense:
Jack Stuzin, LSM: 4 GB, 4 CT, 1G vs. Dartmouth

Harvard sweeps the weekly awards, with goalie Barnard taking POW and Malone taking ROW.

I agree with Orfling about Jack Stuzin (of course, we both might be a wee bit partial to Yalies), although Brown defender first-year defender Trey Taylor made HM based on one goal and one ground ball. Perhaps someone can please add some color on his performance.

PLAYER OF THE WEEK
Christian Barnard, Harvard (Jr., G – Darien, Conn.
Made 16 saves in Harvard’s win over No. 4 Cornell
Also scooped up a career-best seven ground balls
Tallied five fourth quarter saves including three with under two minutes left ot preserve the Crimson lead
Was integral in the Harvard transition game, helping the team clear the ball on 22 of 24 attempts

ROOKIE OF THE WEEK
Teddy Malone, Harvard (Fr., A – Wilmington, Del.)
Had a solid game at attack in the Crimson’s win over Cornell, scoring one goal while adding a ground ball in the victory
The goal occurred with 26 seconds left in the first half, erasing what was a three-goal deficit

HONOR ROLL
Matt Brandau, Yale (Sr., A – Timonium, Md.)
Sam Cooper, Dartmouth (Fr., G – Rancho Santa Fe, Calif.)
Luke DiNola, Penn (So., A – Summit, N.J.)
Leo Johnson, Yale (So., A – Greenwich, Conn.)
Griffin King, Brown (Sr., M – Niskayuna, N.Y.)
Coulter Mackesy, Princeton (So., A – Bronxville, N.Y.)
Quin Moore, Dartmouth (So., A – Montclair, N.J.)
Trey Taylor, Brown (Fr., D – Tampa, Fla.)
https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/4/10/ha ... onors.aspx

With Trey Taylor, I wonder if the Brown SID wanted to give him some exposure, considering that he had a competitive rookie performance versus other rookie candidates.

Congratulations to Christian Barnard.

Cornell and Princeton seem to be the two teams that didn't put a good word in for their own players this week.