American Educational System

[runrussellrun]

meanwhile....in other David "art " news.

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2018/ ... -tourists/

HE ‎Galleria dell’Accademia museum in Florence has taken the unprecedented step of updating one of the most iconic pieces of art in the history of humanity, stating the need to increase visitors as the reason for doing so.

Michelangelo’s David, a marble statue seen as a near perfect study in human anatomy, will be given a great big 14 inch penis, the short that makes a thud sound as it strikes the inner thigh when in motion, after a review into reduced tourist numbers at the museum was concluded.

“He got a big ‘ole dick now, tourists gonna love it,” confirmed curator at the museum Carlo Antonelli, “selfies and memes opportunities, leaning tower of Pisa type poses, David’s got it all now. He’s packing some serious heat in his drawers now,” added Antonelli, despite the fact David historically went and continues to go commando.

Lovingly realised and carved by contemporary sculptor Giorgio Diodati, the new enhanced appendage took 8 months to complete.

[Typical Lax Dad]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

Maybe that’s a good thing, and we can have mom and dad (or whatever you call it now) begin more home schooling of their kids or see more pop up smaller scales schools that stop teaching to a test to chase funding and focus more on an actual STEAM education.

That's some major-league "glass is half full", my man. Good on ya for that.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... tatue/amp/

“The line between art and pornography is at the center of an education dispute after a Tallahassee charter school principal resigned, following accusations that middle school students were shown inappropriate adult content.


At issue? Students in the school were shown images of a Renaissance period sculpture, the “David,” leading to complaints that the children were shown pornographic material.”

So glad my kids are out of this nonsense…..if and when Grandchildren come along, it is private schools for them.

Just remember Jeffrey Epstein was a teacher at dalton…

I know….. we are going to let the “parents” decide what is taught in schools…. Hope it’s the smart parents…..the American Empire is on life support.

Wrong analysis, parents need not decide what is being taught to their children. They do have a right since this concerns what is being taught to their kids and what the curriculum is. Mark Twain novels need to be censored for racial slurs. Mark Twain composed his books using the vernacular of his era. Todays school children are incapable of understanding the context of how Mark Twain composed his stories. A good teacher especially an English teacher should be able to explain this to his/her students before they read the adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. The controversy today where I live has school libraries having to defend a book named " This Book is Gay. If students can understand the context of how Mark Twain wrote they can understand the context of a book titled this book is gay. When I was in HS 50 years ago there was a huge stigma against gay or more feminine male students. They were judged harshly and became outcasts in their own school. I had a very good friend in HS who fit that description to a tee. Nobody at my Catholic HS was a huge fan of Paul White man, Benny Goodman and the big band music of the 1940s, Jerry was though. My grandmother had a huge collection of these big band records and a bunch of magazines from that era that she was happy to give him. Jerry never conformed with what everybody else was doing or what music they were listening to. He stayed true to who he was. He played the tuba in our high school band. Jerry was the only person I knew in HS who never cared what other people said about him. He did his own thing and loved doing it. I use to joke with him that he was born 50 years to late. So a book in a HS library titled this book is gay should traumatize some parents? You can only fear what you don't know. My good friend put up with untold insults and humiliation all through 4 years of HS. I was always proud to have him as a friend. I have not been in touch with him in a long time. We both had the same thing in common, we never quite fit in with the popular kids. I was the long haired Black Sabbath/ Alice Cooper fan. He loved the 1940s big band music. Why some parents are traumatized by a book named this Book is Gay is beyond me.

I am a Fletcher Henderson and Duke Ellington guy. Benny Goodman was excellent and had some excellent bands with excellent musicians. Nobody that I know that is into the music owns any or ever mentions Paul Whiteman outside of claims that he “invented” jazz. I bet there were good records in that collection. Went to a gig last night.

Interesting side note to Benny Goodman. He had a very talented guitar player named Charlie Christian who played an amplified Gibson hollow body in some of Goodman's recording sessions. Very few of these early recording sessions exist and few people if any are aware that Charlie Christian was the first guitar player to play an amplified guitar in that era of big band music. He was brilliant and way before his time. It was a big deal that Benny Goodman was so infatuated with this talented black guitarist that he let him play and record with his band.

I know who Charlie Christian is. Benny was the first to integrate his band. He just wanted good musicians. It was a swinging band.

[Brooklyn]

wondering where you live, or, more specifically if you frequent art museums......where else, regarding the "art world", are you seeing completely naked men? Seems odd you would make this claim.

The David sculpture is called art, not pornoghry, for obvious reasons. Men, 'equiped' like David, can feel better about themselves.

You ever see a "black" David statue? I have. Located in Savin Hill, MA. Find a picture of "black" David statue, and tell me that just changing the face, and penis size, makes it more like "porn" than art.

Former US Senator Scott Brown was a centerfold.......never got to see his penis size tho. .....

really, wondering, where you have lived that consider male nudity OK. Please, explain away....

I used to frequent all of the big museums in NYC for many years and know about all that stuff. You obviously don't know very much about Western art. If you knew anything about it, you'd know Western art has multiple examples such as:

https://collectionapi.metmuseum.org/api ... main-image

[cradleandshoot]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

Maybe that’s a good thing, and we can have mom and dad (or whatever you call it now) begin more home schooling of their kids or see more pop up smaller scales schools that stop teaching to a test to chase funding and focus more on an actual STEAM education.

That's some major-league "glass is half full", my man. Good on ya for that.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... tatue/amp/

“The line between art and pornography is at the center of an education dispute after a Tallahassee charter school principal resigned, following accusations that middle school students were shown inappropriate adult content.


At issue? Students in the school were shown images of a Renaissance period sculpture, the “David,” leading to complaints that the children were shown pornographic material.”

So glad my kids are out of this nonsense…..if and when Grandchildren come along, it is private schools for them.

Just remember Jeffrey Epstein was a teacher at dalton…

I know….. we are going to let the “parents” decide what is taught in schools…. Hope it’s the smart parents…..the American Empire is on life support.

Wrong analysis, parents need not decide what is being taught to their children. They do have a right since this concerns what is being taught to their kids and what the curriculum is. Mark Twain novels need to be censored for racial slurs. Mark Twain composed his books using the vernacular of his era. Todays school children are incapable of understanding the context of how Mark Twain composed his stories. A good teacher especially an English teacher should be able to explain this to his/her students before they read the adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. The controversy today where I live has school libraries having to defend a book named " This Book is Gay. If students can understand the context of how Mark Twain wrote they can understand the context of a book titled this book is gay. When I was in HS 50 years ago there was a huge stigma against gay or more feminine male students. They were judged harshly and became outcasts in their own school. I had a very good friend in HS who fit that description to a tee. Nobody at my Catholic HS was a huge fan of Paul White man, Benny Goodman and the big band music of the 1940s, Jerry was though. My grandmother had a huge collection of these big band records and a bunch of magazines from that era that she was happy to give him. Jerry never conformed with what everybody else was doing or what music they were listening to. He stayed true to who he was. He played the tuba in our high school band. Jerry was the only person I knew in HS who never cared what other people said about him. He did his own thing and loved doing it. I use to joke with him that he was born 50 years to late. So a book in a HS library titled this book is gay should traumatize some parents? You can only fear what you don't know. My good friend put up with untold insults and humiliation all through 4 years of HS. I was always proud to have him as a friend. I have not been in touch with him in a long time. We both had the same thing in common, we never quite fit in with the popular kids. I was the long haired Black Sabbath/ Alice Cooper fan. He loved the 1940s big band music. Why some parents are traumatized by a book named this Book is Gay is beyond me.

I am a Fletcher Henderson and Duke Ellington guy. Benny Goodman was excellent and had some excellent bands with excellent musicians. Nobody that I know that is into the music owns any or ever mentions Paul Whiteman outside of claims that he “invented” jazz. I bet there were good records in that collection. Went to a gig last night.

Interesting side note to Benny Goodman. He had a very talented guitar player named Charlie Christian who played an amplified Gibson hollow body in some of Goodman's recording sessions. Very few of these early recording sessions exist and few people if any are aware that Charlie Christian was the first guitar player to play an amplified guitar in that era of big band music. He was brilliant and way before his time. It was a big deal that Benny Goodman was so infatuated with this talented black guitarist that he let him play and record with his band.

I know who Charlie Christian is. Benny was the first to integrate his band. He just wanted good musicians. It was a swinging band.

Your the exception to the rule. Charlie Christian was way ahead of his time. Sadly he passed away in 1942. I didn't post the link but his guitar playing on swing to bop is amazing stuff given it was recorded in 1941. That might be the best guitar music ever recorded in that era. The next generation of jazz musicians that recorded in the 1950s owe a huge debt to Charlie Christian. He was truly a brilliant guitarist.

[runrussellrun]

wondering where you live, or, more specifically if you frequent art museums......where else, regarding the "art world", are you seeing completely naked men? Seems odd you would make this claim.

The David sculpture is called art, not pornoghry, for obvious reasons. Men, 'equiped' like David, can feel better about themselves.

You ever see a "black" David statue? I have. Located in Savin Hill, MA. Find a picture of "black" David statue, and tell me that just changing the face, and penis size, makes it more like "porn" than art.

Former US Senator Scott Brown was a centerfold.......never got to see his penis size tho. .....

really, wondering, where you have lived that consider male nudity OK. Please, explain away....

I used to frequent all of the big museums in NYC for many years and know about all that stuff. You obviously don't know very much about Western art. If you knew anything about it, you'd know Western art has multiple examples such as:

https://collectionapi.metmuseum.org/api ... main-image

Dude......the violence alone makes this bad for kids, yes?

Your link is to "white priveledge" Met art, located on Central Park, NYC, yes?

Any other examples ?

Perhaps, I will walk abound the next Hopkins home game. Naked. What will happen to me? Will, I be accepted, claiming I am just "walking art".

Dude.....whatever........this topic IS the topic of discussion, because one women thinks a naked human body scultpshore IS pornographic?

really.... international news? Without coming to this website, would NEVER know about these events. They are so important to life.

Something.....about "consuming less". .......should go for infotainment and "online" time.....but, oh well.

I approve of the efforts, but, consider you a troll.....so, contacting minad.

[Typical Lax Dad]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

Maybe that’s a good thing, and we can have mom and dad (or whatever you call it now) begin more home schooling of their kids or see more pop up smaller scales schools that stop teaching to a test to chase funding and focus more on an actual STEAM education.

That's some major-league "glass is half full", my man. Good on ya for that.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... tatue/amp/

“The line between art and pornography is at the center of an education dispute after a Tallahassee charter school principal resigned, following accusations that middle school students were shown inappropriate adult content.


At issue? Students in the school were shown images of a Renaissance period sculpture, the “David,” leading to complaints that the children were shown pornographic material.”

So glad my kids are out of this nonsense…..if and when Grandchildren come along, it is private schools for them.

Just remember Jeffrey Epstein was a teacher at dalton…

I know….. we are going to let the “parents” decide what is taught in schools…. Hope it’s the smart parents…..the American Empire is on life support.

Wrong analysis, parents need not decide what is being taught to their children. They do have a right since this concerns what is being taught to their kids and what the curriculum is. Mark Twain novels need to be censored for racial slurs. Mark Twain composed his books using the vernacular of his era. Todays school children are incapable of understanding the context of how Mark Twain composed his stories. A good teacher especially an English teacher should be able to explain this to his/her students before they read the adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. The controversy today where I live has school libraries having to defend a book named " This Book is Gay. If students can understand the context of how Mark Twain wrote they can understand the context of a book titled this book is gay. When I was in HS 50 years ago there was a huge stigma against gay or more feminine male students. They were judged harshly and became outcasts in their own school. I had a very good friend in HS who fit that description to a tee. Nobody at my Catholic HS was a huge fan of Paul White man, Benny Goodman and the big band music of the 1940s, Jerry was though. My grandmother had a huge collection of these big band records and a bunch of magazines from that era that she was happy to give him. Jerry never conformed with what everybody else was doing or what music they were listening to. He stayed true to who he was. He played the tuba in our high school band. Jerry was the only person I knew in HS who never cared what other people said about him. He did his own thing and loved doing it. I use to joke with him that he was born 50 years to late. So a book in a HS library titled this book is gay should traumatize some parents? You can only fear what you don't know. My good friend put up with untold insults and humiliation all through 4 years of HS. I was always proud to have him as a friend. I have not been in touch with him in a long time. We both had the same thing in common, we never quite fit in with the popular kids. I was the long haired Black Sabbath/ Alice Cooper fan. He loved the 1940s big band music. Why some parents are traumatized by a book named this Book is Gay is beyond me.

I am a Fletcher Henderson and Duke Ellington guy. Benny Goodman was excellent and had some excellent bands with excellent musicians. Nobody that I know that is into the music owns any or ever mentions Paul Whiteman outside of claims that he “invented” jazz. I bet there were good records in that collection. Went to a gig last night.

Interesting side note to Benny Goodman. He had a very talented guitar player named Charlie Christian who played an amplified Gibson hollow body in some of Goodman's recording sessions. Very few of these early recording sessions exist and few people if any are aware that Charlie Christian was the first guitar player to play an amplified guitar in that era of big band music. He was brilliant and way before his time. It was a big deal that Benny Goodman was so infatuated with this talented black guitarist that he let him play and record with his band.

I know who Charlie Christian is. Benny was the first to integrate his band. He just wanted good musicians. It was a swinging band.

Your the exception to the rule. Charlie Christian was way ahead of his time. Sadly he passed away in 1942. I didn't post the link but his guitar playing on swing to bop is amazing stuff given it was recorded in 1941. That might be the best guitar music ever recorded in that era. The next generation of jazz musicians that recorded in the 1950s owe a huge debt to Charlie Christian. He was truly a brilliant guitarist.

I probably have about 3,000 jazz albums

[Brooklyn]

Dude......the violence alone makes this bad for kids, yes?

Your link is to "white priveledge" Met art, located on Central Park, NYC, yes?

Any other examples ?

Perhaps, I will walk abound the next Hopkins home game. Naked. What will happen to me? Will, I be accepted, claiming I am just "walking art".

Dude.....whatever........this topic IS the topic of discussion, because one women thinks a naked human body scultpshore IS pornographic?

really.... international news? Without coming to this website, would NEVER know about these events. They are so important to life.

Something.....about "consuming less". .......should go for infotainment and "online" time.....but, oh well.

I approve of the efforts, but, consider you a troll.....so, contacting minad.

Thanks Fatty. Oh by the way, in total how many different usernames have you used in this forum? I forget off hand.

[cradleandshoot]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

Maybe that’s a good thing, and we can have mom and dad (or whatever you call it now) begin more home schooling of their kids or see more pop up smaller scales schools that stop teaching to a test to chase funding and focus more on an actual STEAM education.

That's some major-league "glass is half full", my man. Good on ya for that.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... tatue/amp/

“The line between art and pornography is at the center of an education dispute after a Tallahassee charter school principal resigned, following accusations that middle school students were shown inappropriate adult content.


At issue? Students in the school were shown images of a Renaissance period sculpture, the “David,” leading to complaints that the children were shown pornographic material.”

So glad my kids are out of this nonsense…..if and when Grandchildren come along, it is private schools for them.

Just remember Jeffrey Epstein was a teacher at dalton…

I know….. we are going to let the “parents” decide what is taught in schools…. Hope it’s the smart parents…..the American Empire is on life support.

Wrong analysis, parents need not decide what is being taught to their children. They do have a right since this concerns what is being taught to their kids and what the curriculum is. Mark Twain novels need to be censored for racial slurs. Mark Twain composed his books using the vernacular of his era. Todays school children are incapable of understanding the context of how Mark Twain composed his stories. A good teacher especially an English teacher should be able to explain this to his/her students before they read the adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. The controversy today where I live has school libraries having to defend a book named " This Book is Gay. If students can understand the context of how Mark Twain wrote they can understand the context of a book titled this book is gay. When I was in HS 50 years ago there was a huge stigma against gay or more feminine male students. They were judged harshly and became outcasts in their own school. I had a very good friend in HS who fit that description to a tee. Nobody at my Catholic HS was a huge fan of Paul White man, Benny Goodman and the big band music of the 1940s, Jerry was though. My grandmother had a huge collection of these big band records and a bunch of magazines from that era that she was happy to give him. Jerry never conformed with what everybody else was doing or what music they were listening to. He stayed true to who he was. He played the tuba in our high school band. Jerry was the only person I knew in HS who never cared what other people said about him. He did his own thing and loved doing it. I use to joke with him that he was born 50 years to late. So a book in a HS library titled this book is gay should traumatize some parents? You can only fear what you don't know. My good friend put up with untold insults and humiliation all through 4 years of HS. I was always proud to have him as a friend. I have not been in touch with him in a long time. We both had the same thing in common, we never quite fit in with the popular kids. I was the long haired Black Sabbath/ Alice Cooper fan. He loved the 1940s big band music. Why some parents are traumatized by a book named this Book is Gay is beyond me.

I am a Fletcher Henderson and Duke Ellington guy. Benny Goodman was excellent and had some excellent bands with excellent musicians. Nobody that I know that is into the music owns any or ever mentions Paul Whiteman outside of claims that he “invented” jazz. I bet there were good records in that collection. Went to a gig last night.

Interesting side note to Benny Goodman. He had a very talented guitar player named Charlie Christian who played an amplified Gibson hollow body in some of Goodman's recording sessions. Very few of these early recording sessions exist and few people if any are aware that Charlie Christian was the first guitar player to play an amplified guitar in that era of big band music. He was brilliant and way before his time. It was a big deal that Benny Goodman was so infatuated with this talented black guitarist that he let him play and record with his band.

I know who Charlie Christian is. Benny was the first to integrate his band. He just wanted good musicians. It was a swinging band.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ce9Jtl9D6FQ

I love this video. In 1941 very few musicians could play this new jazz type of music. The amplified guitar was almost unknown in 1941 when this was recorded. So many of the jazz, country western and r&b musicians of the 1950s owe a huge debt to the influence of the guitar genius of Charlie Christian.

[cradleandshoot]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

Maybe that’s a good thing, and we can have mom and dad (or whatever you call it now) begin more home schooling of their kids or see more pop up smaller scales schools that stop teaching to a test to chase funding and focus more on an actual STEAM education.

That's some major-league "glass is half full", my man. Good on ya for that.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... tatue/amp/

“The line between art and pornography is at the center of an education dispute after a Tallahassee charter school principal resigned, following accusations that middle school students were shown inappropriate adult content.


At issue? Students in the school were shown images of a Renaissance period sculpture, the “David,” leading to complaints that the children were shown pornographic material.”

So glad my kids are out of this nonsense…..if and when Grandchildren come along, it is private schools for them.

Just remember Jeffrey Epstein was a teacher at dalton…

I know….. we are going to let the “parents” decide what is taught in schools…. Hope it’s the smart parents…..the American Empire is on life support.

Wrong analysis, parents need not decide what is being taught to their children. They do have a right since this concerns what is being taught to their kids and what the curriculum is. Mark Twain novels need to be censored for racial slurs. Mark Twain composed his books using the vernacular of his era. Todays school children are incapable of understanding the context of how Mark Twain composed his stories. A good teacher especially an English teacher should be able to explain this to his/her students before they read the adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. The controversy today where I live has school libraries having to defend a book named " This Book is Gay. If students can understand the context of how Mark Twain wrote they can understand the context of a book titled this book is gay. When I was in HS 50 years ago there was a huge stigma against gay or more feminine male students. They were judged harshly and became outcasts in their own school. I had a very good friend in HS who fit that description to a tee. Nobody at my Catholic HS was a huge fan of Paul White man, Benny Goodman and the big band music of the 1940s, Jerry was though. My grandmother had a huge collection of these big band records and a bunch of magazines from that era that she was happy to give him. Jerry never conformed with what everybody else was doing or what music they were listening to. He stayed true to who he was. He played the tuba in our high school band. Jerry was the only person I knew in HS who never cared what other people said about him. He did his own thing and loved doing it. I use to joke with him that he was born 50 years to late. So a book in a HS library titled this book is gay should traumatize some parents? You can only fear what you don't know. My good friend put up with untold insults and humiliation all through 4 years of HS. I was always proud to have him as a friend. I have not been in touch with him in a long time. We both had the same thing in common, we never quite fit in with the popular kids. I was the long haired Black Sabbath/ Alice Cooper fan. He loved the 1940s big band music. Why some parents are traumatized by a book named this Book is Gay is beyond me.

I am a Fletcher Henderson and Duke Ellington guy. Benny Goodman was excellent and had some excellent bands with excellent musicians. Nobody that I know that is into the music owns any or ever mentions Paul Whiteman outside of claims that he “invented” jazz. I bet there were good records in that collection. Went to a gig last night.

Interesting side note to Benny Goodman. He had a very talented guitar player named Charlie Christian who played an amplified Gibson hollow body in some of Goodman's recording sessions. Very few of these early recording sessions exist and few people if any are aware that Charlie Christian was the first guitar player to play an amplified guitar in that era of big band music. He was brilliant and way before his time. It was a big deal that Benny Goodman was so infatuated with this talented black guitarist that he let him play and record with his band.

I know who Charlie Christian is. Benny was the first to integrate his band. He just wanted good musicians. It was a swinging band.

Your the exception to the rule. Charlie Christian was way ahead of his time. Sadly he passed away in 1942. I didn't post the link but his guitar playing on swing to bop is amazing stuff given it was recorded in 1941. That might be the best guitar music ever recorded in that era. The next generation of jazz musicians that recorded in the 1950s owe a huge debt to Charlie Christian. He was truly a brilliant guitarist.

I probably have about 3,000 jazz albums

I love jazz, it has been a major influence to so many musicians across the musical spectrum. Elvis Presley captured the sound of the music he listened to from black musicians in the early 50s and copied style and content. If my memory serves me correct Isaac Hayes had no fondness for Elvis. He always believed Elvis ripped off the sound of 1950s black musicians and never gave credit where credit was due. Jackie Wilson died broke after being ripped off by the white music executives that recorded his music. Elvis could not have matched Jackie Wilsons talent on his best day.

[runrussellrun]

Dude......the violence alone makes this bad for kids, yes?

Your link is to "white priveledge" Met art, located on Central Park, NYC, yes?

Any other examples ?

Perhaps, I will walk abound the next Hopkins home game. Naked. What will happen to me? Will, I be accepted, claiming I am just "walking art".

Dude.....whatever........this topic IS the topic of discussion, because one women thinks a naked human body scultpshore IS pornographic?

really.... international news? Without coming to this website, would NEVER know about these events. They are so important to life.

Something.....about "consuming less". .......should go for infotainment and "online" time.....but, oh well.

I approve of the efforts, but, consider you a troll.....so, contacting minad.

Thanks Fatty. Oh by the way, in total how many different usernames have you used in this forum? I forget off hand.

and yet, you adore, the bizness practice, that does the same ?

but.....that's all you people got.....multiple user names........Yet....you ADORE multiple NON profits, "holding" companies, etc. Unless, of course, Don j. tRump IS involved.

and, you know the answer is TWO......only two. fattylax doesn't have an account............names all yours, since.....again....all you got to rebute is "multiple" names.

and....of course, I think, having multiple names is weird. So is banning people for, umm....."troll like behaviour"........so vague you can taste it.

only person making me go away is admin.........this TIME.....a permanent, forever ban. Yeah....THAT...isn't weirdy behaviour

and, like all that are banned.......the gang rejoices. again......very odd behaviour......especially from the crowd that rants " inclusiveness".

[Brooklyn]

yep. thanx for the laffs fatty

[Brooklyn]

I love jazz, it has been a major influence to so many musicians across the musical spectrum. Elvis Presley captured the sound of the music he listened to from black musicians in the early 50s and copied style and content. If my memory serves me correct Isaac Hayes had no fondness for Elvis. He always believed Elvis ripped off the sound of 1950s black musicians and never gave credit where credit was due. Jackie Wilson died broke after being ripped off by the white music executives that recorded his music. Elvis could not have matched Jackie Wilsons talent on his best day.

Same with the Hispanic musicians/composers of Fania All Stars ~ they were all broke while the white executives took in millions. Sam Cooke had a worse fate: he demanded that blacks get the money for all the records into their pockets and was assassinated by a Mafia hit woman for his efforts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmXrXh2HFU

[Typical Lax Dad]

I love jazz, it has been a major influence to so many musicians across the musical spectrum. Elvis Presley captured the sound of the music he listened to from black musicians in the early 50s and copied style and content. If my memory serves me correct Isaac Hayes had no fondness for Elvis. He always believed Elvis ripped off the sound of 1950s black musicians and never gave credit where credit was due. Jackie Wilson died broke after being ripped off by the white music executives that recorded his music. Elvis could not have matched Jackie Wilsons talent on his best day.

Same with the Hispanic musicians/composers of Fania All Stars ~ they were all broke while the white executives took in millions. Sam Cooke had a worse fate: he demanded that blacks get the money for all the records into their pockets and was assassinated by a Mafia hit woman for his efforts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmXrXh2HFU

A friend recently told me the Sam Cooke story. I had never heard that before.

[Typical Lax Dad]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

Maybe that’s a good thing, and we can have mom and dad (or whatever you call it now) begin more home schooling of their kids or see more pop up smaller scales schools that stop teaching to a test to chase funding and focus more on an actual STEAM education.

That's some major-league "glass is half full", my man. Good on ya for that.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... tatue/amp/

“The line between art and pornography is at the center of an education dispute after a Tallahassee charter school principal resigned, following accusations that middle school students were shown inappropriate adult content.


At issue? Students in the school were shown images of a Renaissance period sculpture, the “David,” leading to complaints that the children were shown pornographic material.”

So glad my kids are out of this nonsense…..if and when Grandchildren come along, it is private schools for them.

Just remember Jeffrey Epstein was a teacher at dalton…

I know….. we are going to let the “parents” decide what is taught in schools…. Hope it’s the smart parents…..the American Empire is on life support.

Wrong analysis, parents need not decide what is being taught to their children. They do have a right since this concerns what is being taught to their kids and what the curriculum is. Mark Twain novels need to be censored for racial slurs. Mark Twain composed his books using the vernacular of his era. Todays school children are incapable of understanding the context of how Mark Twain composed his stories. A good teacher especially an English teacher should be able to explain this to his/her students before they read the adventures of Tom Sawyer and Huck Finn. The controversy today where I live has school libraries having to defend a book named " This Book is Gay. If students can understand the context of how Mark Twain wrote they can understand the context of a book titled this book is gay. When I was in HS 50 years ago there was a huge stigma against gay or more feminine male students. They were judged harshly and became outcasts in their own school. I had a very good friend in HS who fit that description to a tee. Nobody at my Catholic HS was a huge fan of Paul White man, Benny Goodman and the big band music of the 1940s, Jerry was though. My grandmother had a huge collection of these big band records and a bunch of magazines from that era that she was happy to give him. Jerry never conformed with what everybody else was doing or what music they were listening to. He stayed true to who he was. He played the tuba in our high school band. Jerry was the only person I knew in HS who never cared what other people said about him. He did his own thing and loved doing it. I use to joke with him that he was born 50 years to late. So a book in a HS library titled this book is gay should traumatize some parents? You can only fear what you don't know. My good friend put up with untold insults and humiliation all through 4 years of HS. I was always proud to have him as a friend. I have not been in touch with him in a long time. We both had the same thing in common, we never quite fit in with the popular kids. I was the long haired Black Sabbath/ Alice Cooper fan. He loved the 1940s big band music. Why some parents are traumatized by a book named this Book is Gay is beyond me.

I am a Fletcher Henderson and Duke Ellington guy. Benny Goodman was excellent and had some excellent bands with excellent musicians. Nobody that I know that is into the music owns any or ever mentions Paul Whiteman outside of claims that he “invented” jazz. I bet there were good records in that collection. Went to a gig last night.

Interesting side note to Benny Goodman. He had a very talented guitar player named Charlie Christian who played an amplified Gibson hollow body in some of Goodman's recording sessions. Very few of these early recording sessions exist and few people if any are aware that Charlie Christian was the first guitar player to play an amplified guitar in that era of big band music. He was brilliant and way before his time. It was a big deal that Benny Goodman was so infatuated with this talented black guitarist that he let him play and record with his band.

I know who Charlie Christian is. Benny was the first to integrate his band. He just wanted good musicians. It was a swinging band.

Your the exception to the rule. Charlie Christian was way ahead of his time. Sadly he passed away in 1942. I didn't post the link but his guitar playing on swing to bop is amazing stuff given it was recorded in 1941. That might be the best guitar music ever recorded in that era. The next generation of jazz musicians that recorded in the 1950s owe a huge debt to Charlie Christian. He was truly a brilliant guitarist.

I probably have about 3,000 jazz albums

I love jazz, it has been a major influence to so many musicians across the musical spectrum. Elvis Presley captured the sound of the music he listened to from black musicians in the early 50s and copied style and content. If my memory serves me correct Isaac Hayes had no fondness for Elvis. He always believed Elvis ripped off the sound of 1950s black musicians and never gave credit where credit was due. Jackie Wilson died broke after being ripped off by the white music executives that recorded his music. Elvis could not have matched Jackie Wilsons talent on his best day.

I prefer post bebop but this was a swinger

[a fan]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

It conflicts with their supposed message of localism. What are school boards even for? Oh yeah, that's right... somewhere in the RedvsBlue wars the Reds decided that school boards are bad....

There is a lot of real estate between "don't start teaching my 7 yr old about anal sex" and "we are going to arbitrarily send you to jail if we don't like how you teach" --- just saying. We'd be better governed if we collected a bunch of chimpanzees and put them in charge.

Right down the road from us. Notice that the speakers are all way too old to have kids.....they're just gulping the right wing TinFoilMedia as fast as they can, never bothering to spend even ten seconds to consider that "some guy on the internet" is getting paid to get you to foam at the mouth.

Board members resigning, because who the F has the time or energy to deal with TeamTinFoil? What's the point?

F the kids......your own personal agenda is more important, naturally.

[Brooklyn]

Same with the Hispanic musicians/composers of Fania All Stars ~ they were all broke while the white executives took in millions. Sam Cooke had a worse fate: he demanded that blacks get the money for all the records into their pockets and was assassinated by a Mafia hit woman for his efforts.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edmXrXh2HFU

A friend recently told me the Sam Cooke story. I had never heard that before.

Sad but true. So many great black song writers/singers/musicians all went broke because the Mafia controlled record producing industry grabbed all the money and gave them a mere pittance every year. This is why so many went to France and England so that they could make the money denied them here. Also sad is the fact that the news media and entertainment industry kept this evil a great big secret.

[Typical Lax Dad]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

It conflicts with their supposed message of localism. What are school boards even for? Oh yeah, that's right... somewhere in the RedvsBlue wars the Reds decided that school boards are bad....

There is a lot of real estate between "don't start teaching my 7 yr old about anal sex" and "we are going to arbitrarily send you to jail if we don't like how you teach" --- just saying. We'd be better governed if we collected a bunch of chimpanzees and put them in charge.

Right down the road from us. Notice that the speakers are all way too old to have kids.....they're just gulping the right wing TinFoilMedia as fast as they can, never bothering to spend even ten seconds to consider that "some guy on the internet" is getting paid to get you to foam at the mouth.

Board members resigning, because who the F has the time or energy to deal with TeamTinFoil? What's the point?

F the kids......your own personal agenda is more important, naturally.

Jus like all the men and old people foaming at the mouth over abortion rights.....

[a fan]

This teacher nails it.

No left. No right. Just simply: Elected School Boards.......get the F out of our way.....you and the stupid, uneducated, untrained parents who don't know the first thing about education......and let us do our jobs.

It's this simple. Let the teachers teach. Let THEM make the calls. Don't like it? Home school. Private School.

What we're doing now, saddling these teachers with whatever the "I read it on the internet" flavor of the week is? CLEARLY isn't working.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Make America Great Again

[HooDat]

oh, the equivalence is there my friend. Both parties pass stupid laws for the purpose of posturing, while the underlying impacts mindlessly conflict with other "stated" policy stances.

This doesn't conflict with their overall educational message, which is: we're going to hold teachers criminally and civilly liable for doing their job "wrong". Whatever "wrong" means in the particular law.

The reason I bring it up is that it's not posturing. This bill will pass in 2 years. it's coming, no question.

And further, this is a template for Republican run States, who will follow suit.

So between the libs and these fake conservatives....teachers are running out of reasons to stay in their vocation.

Maybe that’s a good thing, and we can have mom and dad (or whatever you call it now) begin more home schooling of their kids or see more pop up smaller scales schools that stop teaching to a test to chase funding and focus more on an actual STEAM education.

That's some major-league "glass is half full", my man. Good on ya for that.

https://www.wfla.com/news/florida/flori ... tatue/amp/

“The line between art and pornography is at the center of an education dispute after a Tallahassee charter school principal resigned, following accusations that middle school students were shown inappropriate adult content.


At issue? Students in the school were shown images of a Renaissance period sculpture, the “David,” leading to complaints that the children were shown pornographic material.”

So glad my kids are out of this nonsense…..if and when Grandchildren come along, it is private schools for them.

Just remember Jeffrey Epstein was a teacher at dalton…

I know….. we are going to let the “parents” decide what is taught in schools…. Hope it’s the smart parents…..the American Empire is on life support.

the American Empire has been on "life support" for 246 years, yet we keep preserving...Part of what makes us the greatest country in the world. Not a new phenomenon at all. The American Media is what's really on life support, and they are going to go out in a blaze of fury and try take everybody down with them. Won't end well for them...

Joe

yup