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I liked O’Brien, not Marino obviously but still he wasn’t bad. (Liked Tony Eason too on those 80s Pats teams). Problem was the D line did more steroids than the entire roster for Vince McMahons 1980s WWF and it caught up with them.
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Interesting out of conference weekend for the IVY, tough teams everywhere in the country and you really need to bring your best to walk away with a "W". That said, what are the outlooks for H2H matchups? No clear front runner and no clear back end team?
Should be awesome!
Should be awesome!
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Going to be a dog fight for that Ivy tourney crown. Starting to feel like that's the only path to the NCAA tourney for any of these teams. With an ugly OCC record so far and Ivy play taking up most of the remaining schedule, there are not may chances to boost the resume.camskidamski wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:52 am Interesting out of conference weekend for the IVY, tough teams everywhere in the country and you really need to bring your best to walk away with a "W". That said, what are the outlooks for H2H matchups? No clear front runner and no clear back end team?
Should be awesome!
Cornell has Army, Dartmouth has UNC and Brown gets a shot at Villanova. That's about it for quality out of conference opponents.
I know it's still early, but from 5 bids to 1 (maybe 2) - what a difference a year makes.
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Actually, it was 6 bids. Cornell, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Harvard and Brown all made it last yeardrunkmonkey30 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:59 pmGoing to be a dog fight for that Ivy tourney crown. Starting to feel like that's the only path to the NCAA tourney for any of these teams. With an ugly OCC record so far and Ivy play taking up most of the remaining schedule, there are not may chances to boost the resume.camskidamski wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:52 am Interesting out of conference weekend for the IVY, tough teams everywhere in the country and you really need to bring your best to walk away with a "W". That said, what are the outlooks for H2H matchups? No clear front runner and no clear back end team?
Should be awesome!
Cornell has Army, Dartmouth has UNC and Brown gets a shot at Villanova. That's about it for quality out of conference opponents.
I know it's still early, but from 5 bids to 1 (maybe 2) - what a difference a year makes.
It will be at least 2 bids this year.
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Just ask the ACC, who went from 5 to 1 last year...drunkmonkey30 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:59 pm I know it's still early, but from 5 bids to 1 (maybe 2) - what a difference a year makes.
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Classic ivy ivory tower. “We totally won’t complain”. This post is a preemptive complaint. Guess the writings on the wallChousnake wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:45 pmYour last paragraph is the analogy to ND last season. If an Ivy team like Penn or Princeton that lost its key OOC games gets hot and goes 6-0 or 5-1 in the conference and then loses in the ILT and does not get a bid, that would replicate ND's season last year. I seriously doubt the ESPN fanboys would complain if an Ivy team is left out as compared to the ACC/Big 10. And I don't think you'd see the Ivy League fans complain for a full year if that happens. Definitely a terrible day for the Ivy League yesterday.FannOLax wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:23 pmHopefully, unlike last year, two boyish ESPN pundits won't stake their reputations this year on a non-AQ team getting in if they win certain games. And no, Notre Dame's success this year doesn't mean they were right; it's a new year, with a lot of changes, including two players on the Irish roster who were key members of Yale's 2018 national championship squad.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:37 pmThat's entirely possible.
Ivies have a few more shots, but there's a lot to overcome at this point.
Happens and no one should whine about it (unlike some did last year).
Last year, the Big 10 got three teams in. This year, Hop, Michigan and especially Penn State look improved, so that conference could pick up a bid or two (maybe three?).
Last year, the ACC was a one-bid conference, and that will definitely change; three seems a likely minimum.
So if those conferences pick up a combined four bids, maybe all of those reduce the number of Ivy slots and we're down to two. Somehow, I can't imagine Quark and Kint howling in protest if Penn finishes strong, passes the eye test with flying colors, but doesn't win the ILT and therefore doesn't make the dance.
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A lot of season left. Last year, ND's wins came over teams with a combined win/loss record of 36-50. Duke was 11-6 and ND beat them twice. Like ND last season, these teams will have a chance to get some good wins. Whether they capitalize on it remains to be seen. You have to beat good teams.... if not you are subject to being on the bubble. My motto is "don't be a bubble team"....get some quality win(s).The real beast wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:44 pmClassic ivy ivory tower. “We totally won’t complain”. This post is a preemptive complaint. Guess the writings on the wallChousnake wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:45 pmYour last paragraph is the analogy to ND last season. If an Ivy team like Penn or Princeton that lost its key OOC games gets hot and goes 6-0 or 5-1 in the conference and then loses in the ILT and does not get a bid, that would replicate ND's season last year. I seriously doubt the ESPN fanboys would complain if an Ivy team is left out as compared to the ACC/Big 10. And I don't think you'd see the Ivy League fans complain for a full year if that happens. Definitely a terrible day for the Ivy League yesterday.FannOLax wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 5:23 pmHopefully, unlike last year, two boyish ESPN pundits won't stake their reputations this year on a non-AQ team getting in if they win certain games. And no, Notre Dame's success this year doesn't mean they were right; it's a new year, with a lot of changes, including two players on the Irish roster who were key members of Yale's 2018 national championship squad.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 12, 2023 4:37 pmThat's entirely possible.
Ivies have a few more shots, but there's a lot to overcome at this point.
Happens and no one should whine about it (unlike some did last year).
Last year, the Big 10 got three teams in. This year, Hop, Michigan and especially Penn State look improved, so that conference could pick up a bid or two (maybe three?).
Last year, the ACC was a one-bid conference, and that will definitely change; three seems a likely minimum.
So if those conferences pick up a combined four bids, maybe all of those reduce the number of Ivy slots and we're down to two. Somehow, I can't imagine Quark and Kint howling in protest if Penn finishes strong, passes the eye test with flying colors, but doesn't win the ILT and therefore doesn't make the dance.
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The blatant Ivy love is ridiculous. Penn loses to go 2-3 and drops 1 spot in the media poll with a wins over Gtown who just re-entered the top 20 and St Joe's who has dropped out. Even more absurd is Princeton who dropped 3 spots after a third loss in a row, with wins over Manhattan and Monmouth. Let me say that again, they have two wins over Manhattan and Monmouth and are still ranked. If either of these teams played in the CAA, Big East, Patriot or any other league with the exact same schedule and record they would have dropped out last week let alone this week.
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https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/3/13/pe ... onors.aspx
No surprise that Emmett Paradine of Dartmouth gets Rookie of the Week. I thought that he might sweep and take both ROW and POW (as I believe CJ Kirst did at least once last year), but the Ivy decided to spread the love to another Emmet, namely Penn goalie Emmett Carroll. I guess one win from two games is enough for the sage Ivy arbiters.
HONOR ROLL
Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton
Matt Brandau, Yale
Sam Handley, Penn
Brad Sharp, Yale
No surprise that Emmett Paradine of Dartmouth gets Rookie of the Week. I thought that he might sweep and take both ROW and POW (as I believe CJ Kirst did at least once last year), but the Ivy decided to spread the love to another Emmet, namely Penn goalie Emmett Carroll. I guess one win from two games is enough for the sage Ivy arbiters.
HONOR ROLL
Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton
Matt Brandau, Yale
Sam Handley, Penn
Brad Sharp, Yale
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Hard to argue against this, though I would say rather than "blatant Ivy love," it's a stubborn inability to let go of preseason expectations. In other words, I think the Ivies are usually on the wrong end of this equation (along with the Patriot League, Big East, etc). This year, expectations were so sky high coming in because of last year's exceptional showing that some pollsters are either too slow to adjust to realities as they unfold or too stubborn to do so.xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:35 pm The blatant Ivy love is ridiculous. Penn loses to go 2-3 and drops 1 spot in the media poll with a wins over Gtown who just re-entered the top 20 and St Joe's who has dropped out. Even more absurd is Princeton who dropped 3 spots after a third loss in a row, with wins over Manhattan and Monmouth. Let me say that again, they have two wins over Manhattan and Monmouth and are still ranked. If either of these teams played in the CAA, Big East, Patriot or any other league with the exact same schedule and record they would have dropped out last week let alone this week.
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What this guy said ^xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:35 pm The blatant Ivy love is ridiculous. Penn loses to go 2-3 and drops 1 spot in the media poll with a wins over Gtown who just re-entered the top 20 and St Joe's who has dropped out. Even more absurd is Princeton who dropped 3 spots after a third loss in a row, with wins over Manhattan and Monmouth. Let me say that again, they have two wins over Manhattan and Monmouth and are still ranked. If either of these teams played in the CAA, Big East, Patriot or any other league with the exact same schedule and record they would have dropped out last week let alone this week.
Have any of these pollsters actually seen Princeton play this year? Let’s just say that they need a lot of work. Offense is brutal.
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Princeton’s offensive efficiency is ranked 15. Should be better. Man up isn’t very good and shooting percentage needs to pick up, which should, if players revert to their career averages.Henpecked wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:26 pmWhat this guy said ^xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:35 pm The blatant Ivy love is ridiculous. Penn loses to go 2-3 and drops 1 spot in the media poll with a wins over Gtown who just re-entered the top 20 and St Joe's who has dropped out. Even more absurd is Princeton who dropped 3 spots after a third loss in a row, with wins over Manhattan and Monmouth. Let me say that again, they have two wins over Manhattan and Monmouth and are still ranked. If either of these teams played in the CAA, Big East, Patriot or any other league with the exact same schedule and record they would have dropped out last week let alone this week.
Have any of these pollsters actually seen Princeton play this year? Let’s just say that they need a lot of work. Offense is brutal.
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Offensive efficiency is helped by hanging 22 on Monmouth. They looked sick against Maryland and Georgetown. Even Manhattan for a half.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:33 pmPrinceton’s offensive efficiency is ranked 15. Should be better. Man up isn’t very good and shooting percentage needs to pick up, which should, if players revert to their career averages.Henpecked wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:26 pmWhat this guy said ^xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:35 pm The blatant Ivy love is ridiculous. Penn loses to go 2-3 and drops 1 spot in the media poll with a wins over Gtown who just re-entered the top 20 and St Joe's who has dropped out. Even more absurd is Princeton who dropped 3 spots after a third loss in a row, with wins over Manhattan and Monmouth. Let me say that again, they have two wins over Manhattan and Monmouth and are still ranked. If either of these teams played in the CAA, Big East, Patriot or any other league with the exact same schedule and record they would have dropped out last week let alone this week.
Have any of these pollsters actually seen Princeton play this year? Let’s just say that they need a lot of work. Offense is brutal.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it is a 1 bid league this year, as the ACC and Ivy's have virtually swapped OOC performance from last year. But that makes the league competition even more meaningful, and attaining a spot in the Ivy tournament will be an absolute dog fight.
Big weekend coming up with Cornell at Yale, Harvard at Brown and Princeton at Penn. The heavyweight battle is the Cornell/Yale game, but I am finding it incredibly difficult to predict a winner for each of these games. How does Cornell respond to the loss? Is Yale's defense up to speed yet? Harvard and Brown both took it on the chin this past weekend, can they get themselves back on track? As for Penn/Princeton, the only good offensive effort I have seen from Penn was the St. Joe's game. I'd favor Princeton in this one.
Big weekend coming up with Cornell at Yale, Harvard at Brown and Princeton at Penn. The heavyweight battle is the Cornell/Yale game, but I am finding it incredibly difficult to predict a winner for each of these games. How does Cornell respond to the loss? Is Yale's defense up to speed yet? Harvard and Brown both took it on the chin this past weekend, can they get themselves back on track? As for Penn/Princeton, the only good offensive effort I have seen from Penn was the St. Joe's game. I'd favor Princeton in this one.
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Is that the measurement? Goals scored? Anyway, the offense needs to improve. Brown scored 22 against Vermont. Their efficiency is lower. Princeton isn’t getting enough possessions. GBs down despite being 50% at FO.Henpecked wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:39 pmOffensive efficiency is helped by hanging 22 on Monmouth. They looked sick against Maryland and Georgetown. Even Manhattan for a half.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:33 pmPrinceton’s offensive efficiency is ranked 15. Should be better. Man up isn’t very good and shooting percentage needs to pick up, which should, if players revert to their career averages.Henpecked wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:26 pmWhat this guy said ^xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:35 pm The blatant Ivy love is ridiculous. Penn loses to go 2-3 and drops 1 spot in the media poll with a wins over Gtown who just re-entered the top 20 and St Joe's who has dropped out. Even more absurd is Princeton who dropped 3 spots after a third loss in a row, with wins over Manhattan and Monmouth. Let me say that again, they have two wins over Manhattan and Monmouth and are still ranked. If either of these teams played in the CAA, Big East, Patriot or any other league with the exact same schedule and record they would have dropped out last week let alone this week.
Have any of these pollsters actually seen Princeton play this year? Let’s just say that they need a lot of work. Offense is brutal.
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I’m about the least traditional guy you’ll ever meet, but this year we’re basically seeing a return to an Ivy tradition of good but not great as a conference. The return to form by the ACC and Big Ten will make it difficult for more than a couple of Ivy teams to make the NCAAT.
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I probably don’t have to explain this to you. Princeton has a cumulative offensive efficiency of 29.5%. Their offensive efficiency versus Monmouth was 44%. Against Maryland it was 15.2%. Against Georgetown it was 24.4. So Yes, their offensive efficiency was inarguably helped by scoring 22 goals against Monmouth.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:59 pmIs that the measurement? Goals scored? Anyway, the offense needs to improve. Brown scored 22 against Vermont. Their efficiency is lower. Princeton isn’t getting enough possessions. GBs down despite being 50% at FO.Henpecked wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:39 pmOffensive efficiency is helped by hanging 22 on Monmouth. They looked sick against Maryland and Georgetown. Even Manhattan for a half.Typical Lax Dad wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:33 pmPrinceton’s offensive efficiency is ranked 15. Should be better. Man up isn’t very good and shooting percentage needs to pick up, which should, if players revert to their career averages.Henpecked wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 5:26 pmWhat this guy said ^xxxxxxx wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:35 pm The blatant Ivy love is ridiculous. Penn loses to go 2-3 and drops 1 spot in the media poll with a wins over Gtown who just re-entered the top 20 and St Joe's who has dropped out. Even more absurd is Princeton who dropped 3 spots after a third loss in a row, with wins over Manhattan and Monmouth. Let me say that again, they have two wins over Manhattan and Monmouth and are still ranked. If either of these teams played in the CAA, Big East, Patriot or any other league with the exact same schedule and record they would have dropped out last week let alone this week.
Have any of these pollsters actually seen Princeton play this year? Let’s just say that they need a lot of work. Offense is brutal.
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Well, now that we have been enlightened as two how the process works, it seems like most SIDs were being honest in nominating the best performers. I thought that Cornell SID might give a shout out to Chayse Ierland for the Honor Role.FannOLax wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 4:41 pm https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/3/13/pe ... onors.aspx
No surprise that Emmett Paradine of Dartmouth gets Rookie of the Week. I thought that he might sweep and take both ROW and POW (as I believe CJ Kirst did at least once last year), but the Ivy decided to spread the love to another Emmet, namely Penn goalie Emmett Carroll. I guess one win from two games is enough for the sage Ivy arbiters.
HONOR ROLL
Michael Gianforcaro, Princeton
Matt Brandau, Yale
Sam Handley, Penn
Brad Sharp, Yale
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The Ivies still have a lot of talent on board from last year. The teams, generally, need to tighten things up a bit with fewer turnovers and more thoughtful offensive possessions.joewillie78 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 1:04 pmActually, it was 6 bids. Cornell, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Harvard and Brown all made it last yeardrunkmonkey30 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:59 pmGoing to be a dog fight for that Ivy tourney crown. Starting to feel like that's the only path to the NCAA tourney for any of these teams. With an ugly OCC record so far and Ivy play taking up most of the remaining schedule, there are not may chances to boost the resume.camskidamski wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 10:52 am Interesting out of conference weekend for the IVY, tough teams everywhere in the country and you really need to bring your best to walk away with a "W". That said, what are the outlooks for H2H matchups? No clear front runner and no clear back end team?
Should be awesome!
Cornell has Army, Dartmouth has UNC and Brown gets a shot at Villanova. That's about it for quality out of conference opponents.
I know it's still early, but from 5 bids to 1 (maybe 2) - what a difference a year makes.
It will be at least 2 bids this year.
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