old salt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:07 pm
afan -- you are incredibly dishonest the way you restate my position, too many to pick apart all of them, examples --
-- I did not say the riots were Pelosi's fault. She was partially at fault for the inadequate defense of the Capitol
Right. It's not her fault. It's only partially her fault. Did she trick the rioters into storming that building, OS?
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:07 pm
obtw -- you say I never criticize Trump. I've repeatedly said he fomented a riot on Jan 6th & is not qualified for future service.
I JUST said you don't criticize Trump's policies. This isn't a policy. But sure, there's one.
But this is qualified, naturally, with (snicker) Pelosi failing to guard the Capitol building. It's "partially" her fault.
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:07 pm
- I repeatedly said the Jan 6 rioters should be prosecuted & sentenced, as should the BLM/Antifa rioters. They should all be punished to the same standard.
Yep. You said that. But that isn't ALL you said. For one group? Oh, more words of condemnation. And added hyperbole that they were far more severe than they actually were. For the other? Out comes Nancy Pelosi and other dumb excuses and scapegoats.
THAT is the problem. You can't help yourself but to maximize something you don't like....and minimize something you DO like.
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:07 pm
FTR -- I advocated deadly force for Jan 6th & said Babbit deserved her fate, she knew what to expect.
I remember that. But again, that's not ALL you said.
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:07 pm
-- All riots are not the same ? You think the BLM/Antifa riots are ok & the Jan 6 riots are an armed insurrection ?
I said all of this at the time...and feel the same today:
-I think the BLM riots were from people who were fed up, and who are sick of the broken social contract by their government----a freaking Dem-controlled government, FFS. YOU should join in with their complaints. And then bad actors joined in....regular ol' criminals...for the violent stuff. I know this, because I saw it myself in Denver, and know doggone well that happened in other cities.
-I think that Jan 6th was a bunch of idiots having a temper tantrum because their guy lost. But for the people who didn't enter the building? I've got their back 1000%. Even though I think they're a bunch of idiots? Protesting the government is as American as it gets. Good for them for going to DC peacefully.
-Antifa? I mocked you for falling for FoxNews insisting what they did was on a massive scale----when it was tee-tiny, and mocked FoxNation for claiming they're a Dem wing. They HATE the Dems just as much as the R's. And Yep, they're idiots.
But----but----what Antifa did was 1000% more dangerous than Jan6th. Why do I say this? Fire. The use of Fire. Intentionally, by organized morons. My opinion? You threaten buildings (which means people) with fire? You go to jail for a LONG time
That's it. That's what it looks like to call balls and strikes, OS.
Jan 6th could have had DOZENS dead, if the Police didn't figure out on the spot that was a bad idea. And we got LUCKY that those idiots didn't run into Senators. But I'm delighted to report that Antifa in Portland was WORSE, even though it was a far smaller protest....because some of those reckless idiots thought FIRE was a good idea. Fire can kill dozens of people with one single match.
So no, they're not all the same.
old salt wrote: ↑Wed Mar 08, 2023 8:07 pm
You need to get over your Fox phobia. Facts are still facts, no matter who reports them.
That's not it, and you know it.
What is "FoxNation nonsense" is you parroting chapter and verse of Hannity blaming Pelosi for ANY of the actions of others. Don't even bring her up. Just don't. I didn't blame Portland officials for not having fire hoses on hand to put the fire out immediately, for heaven's sake. I blamed the idiots who carried and threw the fire.