York 2023

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Asgot
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Re: York 2023

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I think this game will be a battle of tempo, York will try and slow the tempo, while RIT generally wants to push the pace. Last years game was pretty statistically close the major difference was in goal where both goalies did not meet their statistical norms. Michael was significantly below his yearly save percentage while Hutchinson was above it. Faceoffs were even and RIT did a good job of negating any advantage that York may have had with their use of the double pole in the wing. It appears that RIT is winning Faceoffs at about the same rate as last year with new guys taking them. Can they turn those advantages into more possession? can they handle RIT pressure and aggressive ride? Can York handle the RIT motion on offense? Can York keep RIT from going on a run (the 5-goal run last year killed York)?

Can York generate good shots, looking at the Nazerth highlights it appears like they got good shots against RIT and were able to get inside on their defense

Both coaches are excellent and will have their teams well prepared but I would think that York has a slight advantage in both the goal and at the faceoff X.
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Re: York 2023

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AbeFroeman wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:30 am RIT needing ot vs muhlenberg and allowing Nazareth to keep it within striking distance is concerning also
RIT is something like 63-3 since 2019, with B2B national titles.

Maybe some are taking them for granted since they have spoiled us into thinking it should be a 10plus goal difference every win. It is extremely hard to get up for each team each and every week when you are the hunted and they are the hunter and keep blowing teams out on the regular (sans Salisbury a decade ago).

RIT 15
York 11
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AbeFroeman
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Re: York 2023

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Leonard Washington wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:54 am
AbeFroeman wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:30 am RIT needing ot vs muhlenberg and allowing Nazareth to keep it within striking distance is concerning also
RIT is something like 63-3 since 2019, with B2B national titles.

Maybe some are taking them for granted since they have spoiled us into thinking it should be a 10plus goal difference every win. It is extremely hard to get up for each team each and every week when you are the hunted and they are the hunter and keep blowing teams out on the regular (sans Salisbury a decade ago).

RIT 15
York 11
Are you suggesting that RIT wasn’t ”up“ for the first game of the season??? And then didn’t “get up” for the first home game of the season? If the coach isn’t getting the kids up. And the players can’t get up for the first game, then the first home game of the season, there are bigger issues around

Do you think they will be up for this game?
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Re: York 2023

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AbeFroeman wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:00 am
Leonard Washington wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 7:54 am
AbeFroeman wrote: Fri Mar 03, 2023 8:30 am RIT needing ot vs muhlenberg and allowing Nazareth to keep it within striking distance is concerning also
RIT is something like 63-3 since 2019, with B2B national titles.

Maybe some are taking them for granted since they have spoiled us into thinking it should be a 10plus goal difference every win. It is extremely hard to get up for each team each and every week when you are the hunted and they are the hunter and keep blowing teams out on the regular (sans Salisbury a decade ago).

RIT 15
York 11
Are you suggesting that RIT wasn’t ”up“ for the first game of the season??? And then didn’t “get up” for the first home game of the season? If the coach isn’t getting the kids up. And the players can’t get up for the first game, then the first home game of the season, there are bigger issues around

Do you think they will be up for this game?
Yes, they will be ‘up’ for this game. RIT has a lot to work on early this season compared to previous years. They are not pushing transition effectively yet and their ride and sub game aren’t quite ‘on’. They are a work in progress. Offensively, RIT’s success is everyone working within the system and that does take time. It would not surprise me if RIT loses a couple of games this year but expect them to be in the hunt come Tournament time.
It should be a good game.
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For what it’s worth, I think York and RIT as programs have a lot in common, not so much in style of play but rather in approach. They are built on a competitive, team-first culture and not just a mere sum of their talent.
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Re: York 2023

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AbeFroeman wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:00 am Are you suggesting that RIT wasn’t ”up“ for the first game of the season??? And then didn’t “get up” for the first home game of the season? If the coach isn’t getting the kids up. And the players can’t get up for the first game, then the first home game of the season, there are bigger issues around

Do you think they will be up for this game?
Idk if you're trying to be funny or sarcastic or whatever it is. I stand by what I posted. Not sure if you are watching the games with them from the past 5 plus years, who has returned vs who has left and has been opening the season on the field.

Nazareth game wasn't as close as you make it out to be, but I guess since they didnt score 20+goals it was in your eyes.

If you care to have a back and forth with me on the RIT or Liberty thread sure thing. I'm game

Back to your regularly scheduled Spartan programming 8-)
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Leonard Washington wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:38 am
AbeFroeman wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 9:00 am Are you suggesting that RIT wasn’t ”up“ for the first game of the season??? And then didn’t “get up” for the first home game of the season? If the coach isn’t getting the kids up. And the players can’t get up for the first game, then the first home game of the season, there are bigger issues around

Do you think they will be up for this game?
Idk if you're trying to be funny or sarcastic or whatever it is. I stand by what I posted. Not sure if you are watching the games with them from the past 5 plus years, who has returned vs who has left and has been opening the season on the field.

Nazareth game wasn't as close as you make it out to be, but I guess since they didnt score 20+goals it was in your eyes.

If you care to have a back and forth with me on the RIT or Liberty thread sure thing. I'm game

Back to your regularly scheduled Spartan programming 8-)
You literally said it is hard for RIT to get up for every game, as we were talking about the opening game of the season. You brought that up on this page, why would I follow you to another page to respond???
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Re: York 2023

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AbeFroeman wrote: Sat Mar 04, 2023 11:57 am
You literally said it is hard for RIT to get up for every game, as we were talking about the opening game of the season. You brought that up on this page, why would I follow you to another page to respond???
I gave my opinion, you responded. Us continually going back and forth about RIT (specifically) on a York thread would essentially be hijacking the thread which is labeled York. No? My apologies then :lol:

Besides you said it best yourself
AbeFroeman wrote: Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:37 pm
Still early. Too early to really know much
AbeFroeman wrote: Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:20 pm
I think early games are a crap shoot.
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AbeFroeman
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Re: York 2023

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Camera man at RIT can’t seem to follow the action. Driving me crazy
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Re: York 2023

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AbeFroeman wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:36 pm Camera man at RIT can’t seem to follow the action. Driving me crazy
I could be wrong but I believe they are using their Hudl camera for the game
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Re: York 2023

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Leonard Washington wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:52 pm
AbeFroeman wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 12:36 pm Camera man at RIT can’t seem to follow the action. Driving me crazy
I could be wrong but I believe they are using their Hudl camera for the game
Makes sense. Some it seems to follow large groups.
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Re: York 2023

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Am I hearing things, or did this RIT broadcaster just mock the York player who was down on the ground hurt for a pretty long time?

"Oh you're fine? Get up. [awkward moment]...just kidding."

Kid was still on the ground when he said it.
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Re: York 2023

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The goalie, his brother, was helping him so I took comment as backyard jest.. no foul
liongoes
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Re: York 2023

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Ah didn't realize that connection, appreciate the clarification!
AbeFroeman
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Re: York 2023

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York gets the ball on offense with 30 seconds. Should have called a timeout to get offense on field. Instead, it was rushed.
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Re: York 2023

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Really bizarre decision by York not to call timeout to set up a final possession there. Great game though, that was a fun one.
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Re: York 2023

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No timeout left for York with 30 seconds left?! Always need to keep one for these situations, when team is gassed. Probably will haunt York. Also no one breaking to the ball to assist the double pressure. York had a real chance to tie it.
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Re: York 2023

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Oaklax wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:54 pm No timeout left for York with 30 seconds left?! Always need to keep one for these situations, when team is gassed. Probably will haunt York. Also no one breaking to the ball to assist the double pressure. York had a real chance to tie it.
They had the time out. York used it after they lost possession
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Re: York 2023

Post by AbeFroeman »

All in all, York looked good. Went toe to toe with the number one team. Never looked over matched. Goalie played great. Fogo played great. York did a good job on rides and clears. Give credit to RIT defense. They played good
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Re: York 2023

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AbeFroeman wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:55 pm
Oaklax wrote: Sun Mar 05, 2023 1:54 pm No timeout left for York with 30 seconds left?! Always need to keep one for these situations, when team is gassed. Probably will haunt York. Also no one breaking to the ball to assist the double pressure. York had a real chance to tie it.
They had the time out. York used it after they lost possession
Awful decision making by Childs. A timeout is the only thing to do in that scenario. Big moments aren’t for him. York looked great. Young guys on both sides of the ball really stepped up. Callinan looked GREAT as well.
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