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FMUBart wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:10 pm
youthathletics wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:11 pm
10stone5 wrote: Wed Feb 22, 2023 9:05 pm Cold comfort,

but watch the 1st half of the Manhattan Princeton game,
same game plan as the Manhattan Navy game.
yep. I sure the Navy staff felt a whole lot better after last night. 8-)

Haha! Princeton was down 3-0 and then outscored Manhattan 14-6...Love the Navy forum!
curious, what is your point. Mine was….

Manhattan hangs 6 on the number 3 team in the country and we know Navy ain’t beating Princeton. It proves Manhattan is a legit contender, with an Potential AA goalie.
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Point is, I love the excuses for the MIds "spittin' the bit" vs the Jaspers..
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Navy better adjust on D, and damned fast. Getting shredded on motion O and picks.
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I could look at those #28 out of the box, downhill runs
all day long.
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10stone5 wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 11:32 am I could look at those #28 out of the box, downhill runs
all day long.
15 HPU said hold my beer. Same play as 28
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Not watching game. What is up with Navy!?
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gymman1031 wrote: Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:15 pm Not watching game. What is up with Navy!?
Navy D getting collapsed inside and can’t keep up with HPU Motion O (reminiscent of an Army Offense)

HPU D just quicker, Navy trying to beat a 1v1 and cant, then not moving ball well enough. Had a pole on 43 and SSDM on 29 at one point. Start of 4th have shorts on 29 and 43.

Navy starts a 3 goal run mid 4th, started by 67 un assisted goal, the 9 assist 43 then 10 assist 29.

HPU comes right back down and gets 1.
Now 9 picks off a lob pass on ride and scores on an empty net….14-13 HPU 5 remaining

It’s over Johnny!! 14-13 HPU
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Very quiet.
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Now that the first 5 games are done, what does everyone think about the outlook for the season? 3-2 is not ideal at this juncture when many thought the team would be 4-1 or 5-0. What changes should be made? Does the team need more time to gel together? Any bright spots or disappointments so far?
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essorcalveritas wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:50 pm Now that the first 5 games are done, what does everyone think about the outlook for the season? 3-2 is not ideal at this juncture when many thought the team would be 4-1 or 5-0. What changes should be made? Does the team need more time to gel together? Any bright spots or disappointments so far?
Fire Amplo, with a team like this you have no excuses at all what so ever. You have Skalniak and Swanson, arguably the best midfield duo in all of college lacrosse and their stats should be better than what they are. Lastly having arguably the quickest and most athletic attackman in the country and he only have 16 points in 5 games as well as 0 against Manhattan, cmon now that is ridiculous. Having all this talent you should be winning way more.
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Lawdawg100 wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 10:09 pm
essorcalveritas wrote: Mon Feb 27, 2023 9:50 pm Now that the first 5 games are done, what does everyone think about the outlook for the season? 3-2 is not ideal at this juncture when many thought the team would be 4-1 or 5-0. What changes should be made? Does the team need more time to gel together? Any bright spots or disappointments so far?
Fire Amplo, with a team like this you have no excuses at all what so ever. You have Skalniak and Swanson, arguably the best midfield duo in all of college lacrosse and their stats should be better than what they are. Lastly having arguably the quickest and most athletic attackman in the country and he only have 16 points in 5 games as well as 0 against Manhattan, cmon now that is ridiculous. Having all this talent you should be winning way more.

Skalniak shooting percentage is .171, same with #24.
Swanson is even worse at .158.
Tolker is the best player on the field, full stop. His SH% is damned 3x of the above mentioned. He even rides like he cares and was shoved on the crease to play a new role this year.

Nothing against 9 or 24, but sitting 6 b/c of 24, adding in 9 and bumping 10 inside...I believe they screwed up the mojo, and the chemistry just ain't working, (yet). Seems they so wanted, or expected 24 to save the day. And maybe that will still happen...might be the early stages of the Ewing Effect setting in. Where are the skip passes.....are they allowed to throw them? Where are the picks/slips and screens with high motion....are we not able to run them...Army sure can which means is our defense getting these looks?

The quickest and most athletic.....cmon man, if that where the case we'd be riding like a banshee. But maybe that is your point, we are barely riding at all. Based on stats, our scoring is ranked 12th in under 30 seconds of possession, then we drop to 62nd between 30-60 seconds. That can be interpreted a few ways. It may mean we are schemes are poo, our guys are not executing what is taught, we can't win a 1v1 match, we are easy to scout and shutdown, maybe we are using the clock because we do not dominate at FO, maybe we dont trust our defense so we want to slow things down. You are right....something is amiss.

What matters most is PL play, which starts this weekend. If we do not see anything different that they have been saving up for, it could very well be a short season.
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I have been very vocal about Coach Amplo being out of his league. But let’s hope the MIDS can find a way to win this weekend.

At practice: If they aren’t playing at “full speed”, aren’t executing, aren’t fully committed to being a good teammate and if they don’t participate in practice/film/weight room, then they don’t deserve to play! Hold them accountable!

Problem is : Amplo has put specific players on such a pedestal and not developed others players, he’s in a hell of a spot.
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TheGoat1999 wrote: Tue Feb 28, 2023 1:08 pm I have been very vocal about Coach Amplo being out of his league. But let’s hope the MIDS can find a way to win this weekend.

At practice: If they aren’t playing at “full speed”, aren’t executing, aren’t fully committed to being a good teammate and if they don’t participate in practice/film/weight room, then they don’t deserve to play! Hold them accountable!

Problem is : Amplo has put specific players on such a pedestal and not developed others players, he’s in a hell of a spot.
I understand what you are saying, but this exercise had to also run its course and play out, otherwise the argument would have been....why didn't they at least try. It is certainly a tough spot to be in and one that was certainly going to be risky....but had to done.
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As a prior poster had referenced, being pragmatic, Navy's out of conference schedule is weak enough RPI-wise that a super strong Patriot League season was always going to be the ticket to a possible NCAA bid. Would Navy have put itself in the conversation if it had, say, gone 5-0 to start the season, shared a regular season title, and not won the PL tournament bid? I think yes, so the two losses do have some impact. But Navy was always going to have to have a great PL showing. I think youthathletics's analysis is spot on; I don't know if it's too late in the season to up the "junkyard dog" mentality and add a strong ride to the strong potential for a good defense, but that would be a good development if it could happen.
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Last year Navy lost both contests to Lehigh (Regular Season and PL Tournament).
Any predictions on the contest this weekend? Whats Navy's path to winning this game?
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essorcalveritas wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:51 pm Last year Navy lost both contests to Lehigh (Regular Season and PL Tournament).
Any predictions on the contest this weekend? Whats Navy's path to winning this game?
Heart says Navy. Head says Lehigh. Navy has talent. But something is missing.
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gymman1031 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:54 pm
essorcalveritas wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:51 pm Last year Navy lost both contests to Lehigh (Regular Season and PL Tournament).
Any predictions on the contest this weekend? Whats Navy's path to winning this game?
Heart says Navy. Head says Lehigh. Navy has talent. But something is missing.
We need our defense to add a handful of points. We know Lehigh will play a ton of zone, in the past few years we just don’t crack it, and the game turns in to slowly painful to watch.

Lehigh has a solid motion, rapid (off)ball movement offense, coupled with dominance at the FO dot. We have our work cut out for us.

I sure hope the past few games were not a precursor to Saturday and we have been preparing for PL play.
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youthathletics wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:54 pm
gymman1031 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:54 pm
essorcalveritas wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:51 pm Last year Navy lost both contests to Lehigh (Regular Season and PL Tournament).
Any predictions on the contest this weekend? Whats Navy's path to winning this game?
Heart says Navy. Head says Lehigh. Navy has talent. But something is missing.
We need our defense to add a handful of points. We know Lehigh will play a ton of zone, in the past few years we just don’t crack it, and the game turns in to slowly painful to watch.

Lehigh has a solid motion, rapid (off)ball movement offense, coupled with dominance at the FO dot. We have our work cut out for us.

I sure hope the past few games were not a precursor to Saturday and we have been preparing for PL play.
This is the weekend Swanson and Skalniak finally come out of their shell. (It should not have taken this long, but it finally happens) If Lehigh goes zone then that will benefit those two because they will have plenty of time and room shots all game. Expect these two to combine for more than 8 points. Not to mention Airline will at least have 4 assists. He will pick apart the zone. If not Lehigh SSDM and LSM are nothing spectacular. Expect those two to have a field day on them.
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Lawdawg100 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 10:24 pm
youthathletics wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 9:54 pm
gymman1031 wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:54 pm
essorcalveritas wrote: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:51 pm Last year Navy lost both contests to Lehigh (Regular Season and PL Tournament).
Any predictions on the contest this weekend? Whats Navy's path to winning this game?
Heart says Navy. Head says Lehigh. Navy has talent. But something is missing.
We need our defense to add a handful of points. We know Lehigh will play a ton of zone, in the past few years we just don’t crack it, and the game turns in to slowly painful to watch.

Lehigh has a solid motion, rapid (off)ball movement offense, coupled with dominance at the FO dot. We have our work cut out for us.

I sure hope the past few games were not a precursor to Saturday and we have been preparing for PL play.
This is the weekend Swanson and Skalniak finally come out of their shell. (It should not have taken this long, but it finally happens) If Lehigh goes zone then that will benefit those two because they will have plenty of time and room shots all game. Expect these two to combine for more than 8 points. Not to mention Airline will at least have 4 assists. He will pick apart the zone. If not Lehigh SSDM and LSM are nothing spectacular. Expect those two to have a field day on them.
Lets hope so. Last year 28 and 29 combined for zero goals on 9 shots, with 1 assist, in the first outing.
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Re: Navy 2023

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Stopped over to the Yard multiple times this week, Loving the new Midshipmen Store and took in some practice. The Team looked a little thin in numbers. I predominately watched the offensive starters. I noticed that 28 and 24 didn’t practice at all and weren’t dressed. It looked like 28 was limping when walking around and 24, who the heck knows.

Look for 6 and 14 to get some more time on Attack this week.

29, 8, 43, 10 and 19 must be dominant against Lehigh for the MIDS to be successful !
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