GWOT --> GPC

[old salt]

A Chinese "clean" nuc, delivered over the S pole, on a steerable hypersonic missile, makes a first strike conceivable & would not necessarily be deterred by MAD. It could not be defended against by current defensive systems. It moves missile defense & warfare into space. Now you know why we are developing a Space Force.

[youthathletics]

A Chinese "clean" nuc, delivered over the S pole, on a steerable hypersonic missile, makes a first strike conceivable & would not necessarily be deterred by MAD. It could not be defended against by current defensive systems. It moves missile defense & warfare into space. Now you know why we are developing a Space Force.

It certainly seems like this GPC was an intentional play. To sever the ties in ME, stop the draining of resources, allow the vacuum of our leaving create whatever it may, and focus on a new venture....now called the GPC. A place to invest time and money and we get the China and Russia to participate. Maybe it is a concerted effort to put the squeeze on the ME....who knows. IMO, it certainly feels like the GPC was an intentionally planned conflict.

[youthathletics]

We are not in competition, we are at war, not in the traditional sense: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6282067314001#sp=show-clips

As an aside, this had to have been in the works for quite some time, which is why Trump set it in motion. And at that time, it was viewed as either idiocy, or long over due; starting a new cold war. It may also tie into why Trump was pushing "Make American Again" and trying to emphasize more manufacturing in the US. Coincidentally, or is it..... BIdens spin off is "Build Back Better"...much the same idea as Trump.

I suppose in the end, this GPC, is a calculated fight, but what is the prize, how do you determine the winner? Will be interesting to hear how it goes with Xi today.

[Kismet]

speaking of space - this today

Breaking: "U.S. Space Command is aware of a debris-generating event in outer space. We are actively working to characterize the debris field and will continue to ensure all space-faring nations have the information necessary to maneuver satellites if impacted.” - US Space Command

More: The US is very concerned about a major Russian anti-satellite weapons test conducted over the weekend and the State Department is preparing to put out a statement on the matter today.

apparently the Rooskies may have blasted one of their older satellites. Soviet Satellite Kosmos 1408 floating around had an event of some sort from what the tracks were saying.

Crew of ISS now alerted to possible debris near their orbit 200 miles above Earth.

[youthathletics]

Worth following...Havana Syndrome

https://wtop.com/government/2021/07/us- ... in-vienna/

State Dept. names new coordinator.....

https://wtop.com/world/2021/11/state-de ... ome-cases/

The cases are known as “Havana Syndrome” dating to a series of reported brain injuries in 2016 at the U.S. Embassy in Cuba.

Additional topic posted in NAtional Security thread: viewtopic.php?f=66&t=1152&p=310525#p310525

[youthathletics]

We are not in competition, we are at war, not in the traditional sense: https://video.foxnews.com/v/6282067314001#sp=show-clips

As an aside, this had to have been in the works for quite some time, which is why Trump set it in motion. And at that time, it was viewed as either idiocy, or long over due; starting a new cold war. It may also tie into why Trump was pushing "Make American Again" and trying to emphasize more manufacturing in the US. Coincidentally, or is it..... BIdens spin off is "Build Back Better"...much the same idea as Trump.

I suppose in the end, this GPC, is a calculated fight, but what is the prize, how do you determine the winner? Will be interesting to hear how it goes with Xi today.

Now maybe more will pay attention to what was started in early 2020, but guess who?

Biden really called this one: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-e ... s-n1001236

Yea.....the wet market 'really' was the start of cv-19..
Yea.....lockdowns 'really' impacted the entire semi-conductor market, crippling all but who?
Yea.....Taiwan all of a sudden became this small place that China wanted to pick a fight with, engaging who?
Yea..... China was paid to perform GoF research by who?
They have us by the ballz, currently.

Former Pentagon chief software officer Nicolas Chaillan - We are not in a competition with China, we are in a war...starts at the .30 second mark.

[youthathletics]

UFB....Getting worse before it gets better.

Downed F35c sunk in South China Sea, race is on for recovery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60148482

[a fan]

UFB....Getting worse before it gets better.

Downed F35c sunk in South China Sea, race is on for recovery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60148482

Um....why is our military reporting this to the world?

[jhu72]

UFB....Getting worse before it gets better.

Downed F35c sunk in South China Sea, race is on for recovery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60148482

Um....why is our military reporting this to the world?

... because the military needs enemies and to make sure everyone on the home front knows we are recognizing them. Its also impossible to keep secret - no cost to telling the world. Now if we didn't do this, you would have the anti-Biden crowd, right wing media etc. making it worse than Obama's brown suit or not properly saluting while holding a cup of coffee.

[youthathletics]

UFB....Getting worse before it gets better.

Downed F35c sunk in South China Sea, race is on for recovery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60148482

Um....why is our military reporting this to the world?

Appears the video was also leaked. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fo ... entnewsntp

[RedFromMI]

UFB....Getting worse before it gets better.

Downed F35c sunk in South China Sea, race is on for recovery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60148482

Um....why is our military reporting this to the world?

Appears the video was also leaked. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fo ... entnewsntp

And according to the article, five sailors have now been charged in connection to leaking the video...

[youthathletics]

UFB....Getting worse before it gets better.

Downed F35c sunk in South China Sea, race is on for recovery.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60148482

Um....why is our military reporting this to the world?

Appears the video was also leaked. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/fo ... entnewsntp

And according to the article, five sailors have now been charged in connection to leaking the video...

Great news.....F35c recovered by the good guys: https://www.c7f.navy.mil/Media/News/Dis ... china-sea/

[youthathletics]

China flexing at Australia: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-61696973

Australia has accused the pilot of a Chinese fighter jet of carrying out a dangerous manoeuvre near one of its aircraft over the South China Sea.

It says the Chinese aircraft released flares and cut in front of the Australian surveillance plane.

The Chinese jet then released "chaff" - an anti-radar device which includes small pieces of aluminium which entered the Australian plane's engine.

[youthathletics]

Bump.

Seems after all the partisan barking about balloons, airspace, china, spying, uk, russia, etc, all this turmoil is noise that at some point will likley come to a boiling over. The latest issue last evening with NORAD and Canada, and now China this morning chiming in, just seems as if the chess pieces are making moves.

https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/stat ... C76j4s2UxQ

[PizzaSnake]

Bump.

Seems after all the partisan barking about balloons, airspace, china, spying, uk, russia, etc, all this turmoil is noise that at some point will likley come to a boiling over. The latest issue last evening with NORAD and Canada, and now China this morning chiming in, just seems as if the chess pieces are making moves.

https://twitter.com/Aviation_Intel/stat ... C76j4s2UxQ

All parties are using UAVs (“drones”). Question is, who has the most effective and efficient counter-measures, i.e. NOT F-22s and sidewinder air-to-air missiles.

The submersibles are the most interesting. Maybe appear to be jellyfish? If you came upon a “bag” of biological agents on the beach, would you know what it was?

[youthathletics]

Hypothetical....What if, Zelenskyy is really playing the USA, is a puppet of Russia and will die in his grave having said nothing about it, and the end goal is to get China and Russia playing in the same sandbox to form an alliance, that ultimately supports the current GPC.

Prove that it is not an option.....

[Kismet]

Hypothetical....What if, Zelenskyy is really playing the USA, is a puppet of Russia and will die in his grave having said nothing about it, and the end goal is to get China and Russia playing in the same sandbox to form an alliance, that ultimately supports the current GPC.

Prove that it is not an option.....

Check out the grassy knoll while you're at it.

[youthathletics]

Hypothetical....What if, Zelenskyy is really playing the USA, is a puppet of Russia and will die in his grave having said nothing about it, and the end goal is to get China and Russia playing in the same sandbox to form an alliance, that ultimately supports the current GPC.

Prove that it is not an option.....

Check out the grassy knoll while you're at it.

I did, she was said you where no good.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Hypothetical....What if, Zelenskyy is really playing the USA, is a puppet of Russia and will die in his grave having said nothing about it, and the end goal is to get China and Russia playing in the same sandbox to form an alliance, that ultimately supports the current GPC.

Prove that it is not an option.....

Just curious: was this tongue in cheek? Please tell me you were joking.

[HooDat]

"It is not surprising that at the same time Trump was seeking to remove U.S. military forces from Afghanistan, he was also speaking about the importance of maintaining U.S. leverage in mineral extraction in Afghanistan back in 2017."

Small wonder why he negotiated his deal with the Taliban - he saw dollar bills and that's what he was after.

Precious metals are only the hottest and most important element in microchips. I guess next you'll tell us only republicans saw dollar bills over the importance of oil.

We saw this same "we HAVE to have this stuff" game with oil for decades. Please tell me that we learned from that mistake.

It's simple: find an alternative fo these metals. We always do. We just have to try and not, as we have for 50+ years now, simply use our military to solve every made up "problem".

Well what they really mean when they say that is: "We have to have this stuff from THIS PARTICULAR COUNTRY where we can EXPLOIT the environment and cheap child labor to maximize profits while avoiding NIMBY-ism in the states where we have tons of this stuff."