PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 8:29 pmStarted a little earlier than that. He was trying to "right" the wrongs of the CIA and BP in 1953. There's a pretty good reason for the Iranians to hate the US. We brought back the Shah and his Savak. Why? Because the British could tolerate the effrontery of a democratically admin seeking market rates for national resources.cradleandshoot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:00 pm+1. I was 18 years old and a wannabe Democrat in 1976. Jimmy Carter was my man. A peanut farmer and WW2 naval officer. Jimmy Carter was in way over his head from day #1. The events that followed him during his 4 years as POTUS proved one thing. He worked diligently in the background to depose the Shah of Iran. Who was that guy who took his place??? The same guy who gave the thumbs up to the hostage crisis. The same crisis that gave us the humiliating debacle at desert one. I bet most of you on this forum never witnessed the Iranians desecrating the bodies of those Americans. It ain't popular reading on the internet. I was a young PFC at my unit at Ft Bragg when those pictures were published. Smiling and happy Iranian military folks poking at the charred bodies of our soldiers that were killed at desert one. I can't blame Jimmy Carter for that debacle. I can hold him responsible for the regime change he encouraged that was responsible for the events that have occured over the last decades. He hated the Shaw but paved the way for the Ayatollah Khomeini to take power in Iran.PizzaSnake wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:51 am When former Pres tRump lays dying, think he will go with dignity and near universal respect and admiration, like Jimmy Carter, or will he whinge and rail 'til the end?
Think tRump, the "genius" would have had the stones to go to Three Mile Island during a meltdown? Is he known for his post-Presidential faith and good works? I'm not a dog follower, but Jimmy practices his faith the way his "Christ" instructed (per the "comic" book). See any Access Hollywodd tapes of Jimmy boasting about sexual assault? What the fcuk has come over this country when people cleave to clowns like tRump?
Jimmy Carter has provided an example of how Americans should comport themselves. Pity more don't emulate him. Too bad Rayguns abandoned the climate awareness Jimmy started. We might have had a fighting chance.
Godspeed, Jimmy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammad_Mosaddegh
"Mohammad Mosaddegh[a] (Persian: محمد مصدق, IPA: [mohæmˈmæd(-e) mosædˈdeɢ] (listen); 16 June 1882 – 5 March 1967) was an Iranian politician, author, and lawyer who served as the 35th Prime Minister of Iran from 1951 to 1953, after appointment by the 16th Majlis.[4][5] He was a member of the Iranian parliament from 1923, and served through a contentious 1952 election into the 17th Iranian Majlis,[6] until his government was overthrown in the 1953 Iranian coup d'état aided by the intelligence agencies of the United Kingdom (MI6) and the United States (CIA), led by Kermit Roosevelt Jr.[7][8] His National Front was suppressed from the 1954 election.[9]
Before its removal from power, his administration introduced a range of social and political measures such as social security, land reforms and higher taxes including the introduction of taxation on the rent of land. His government's most significant policy was the nationalization of the Iranian oil industry, which had been built by the British on Persian lands since 1913 through the Anglo-Persian Oil Company (APOC/AIOC), later known as British Petroleum (BP).[10]"
Don't want people to fcuking hate you? Stay out of their business. Sort of like we should hate Pootie as he interferes with our internal politics. Of course there is a certain ironic symmetry to him doing the US what it itself does.
My buddy moved here when the Shah fell. His father was a mathematician at Michigan State U. Nasser said he realized American influence was a bit much because there were streets in Tehran named after United States presidents. He said as a kid, he thought it was odd……he also told me that kids in his village would also argue about Muhammad Ali being their cousin.