Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:32 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:10 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 9:01 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 8:05 am
old salt wrote: ↑Thu Feb 16, 2023 1:07 am
...responding to afan from another thread.
"woke" content removed from FL
Math textbooks.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/0 ... s-00030503
In one example that caught the state’s attention, a reviewer noted that a high school statistics book included lessons on race that could violate the rule.
They pointed to pages that discussed “racial profiling in policing” and “discrimination in magnet school admission,” along with one instance in which the book mentioned there were “too many” white police officers in the NYPD compared with the racial makeup of the community.
Another book ...covering precalculus honors was dinged for a section that asked students what algebra can help tell about “racial bias.”
...two publishers seeking to provide K-5 math books were flagged by reviewers for broaching lessons on social emotional learning, according to the documents.
One second-grade book ...“attempts at multicultural teaching” were evident in its text.
The example given was “types of housing for different groups of people.”
...for fifth graders ...for its social emotional learning lessons.
...one question “asks students to think about social and emotional learning competencies, including relationship skills and social awareness.”
...a Mathematics for College Liberal Arts text, was allegedly “biased” on climate change and emphasized that “racism is embedded in American society dependent on age,” ...This book, ...contained exercises based on “an argument” between former Vice President Al Gore and conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh in which, the reviewer wrote, “You can tell the author favors Al Gore and dislikes Rush Limbaugh based on questions.”
This book includes a bar graph “measuring racial prejudice, by age,” an example previously cited by the FLDOE.
“Based solely on the Critical Race Theory elements, this book should not be considered for adoption,” according to the reviewer, who also criticized the author for “talking about a climate crisis as if it’s a proven fact.”
And your conclusion is?
"woke" is bad?
why do we learn math?
For math's sake?
Or to solve problems?
All sorts of problems, from how to put a man on the moon to better understanding social challenges.
Kids,
at all ages, want to understand why they are learning something and they respond to such with greater enthusiasm for learning the tools when they understand that they will help them in the real world. The demand for relevance to the real world, begins early in the educational process (I certainly was highly conscious of wanting to know why I was memorizing times tables!) and only accelerates as one matures...emotional social learning becomes more and more important to address.
So, what Florida is saying is that out of a huge amount, 6,000 pages, of material, with undoubtedly thousands of references to various problems to be solved, the reviewers found a few that they felt were "biased" in their presentation in their effort to catch the attention of students as to the relevance of using math to address the problems as framed. And by "biased" they mean that statistics shouldn't be used to analyze the composition of a police force relative to the community it serves...why? Because it's irrelevant??? Or because it threatens to expose some discontinuities that make white nationalists 'uncomfortable'??? Sheesh...why go there? It's using math to look at a problem...but a good teacher would then push the question of correlation versus causation, exploring those dynamics...it's statistics, not 2+2=4.
I see it in my kids. My son has focus issues and gets in some trouble for being a sarcastic prick sometimes - I’ll sore everyone the opportunity and acknowledge that sounds familiar to those who deal with me here.
But…is incredibly thoughtful and intelligent and asks and gets the why a lot. My daughter is dutiful when she’s not a pain in the a** and a little self centered but it would be polite to say shes “process driven” in that she gets her grades and does what she needs to but only because she’s told to do so not because she sees the value or understands why she’s doing something. They’re 8&10, 3rd and 4th grade so maybe there’s time but I feel like it’s already set their paths in life.
Son gets that math is simply a language to explain the world already daughter sees it as problems to solve because she’s expected to do so.
Hopefully both will evolve...hopefully your daughter will experience some teachers who challenge her and inspire her to expand her horizons. Great teachers can do so, but not if they constrain themselves to the nuts and bolts, the rules of math.
Your son is currently more likely to explore the potentialities of math; hopefully he'll develop the disciplines to make the most of his curiosity. Again, great teachers can provide a pathway to recognizing why those disciplines are so important to that exploration, but not when they constrain themselves to the nuts and bolts, the rules of math.
Hopefully, both will encounter such teachers, unconstrained...
Don't move to Florida...
The irony is the elementary school they go to is pretty strong, one of the best within the city of Atlanta but was caught up in an issue because the principal had 2 black kids physically attending, maybe 3, during the fall of 2020 in Covid and one mother who had a whole other agenda and her personal aftercare program at risk pushed this story that the school was segregating kids. It’s nonsense, a poor move in a sense by the vice principal, but compared with the proactive issues in the educational system in FL the irony of this being national news is insane.
Briscoe is good if very stubborn and control oriented but Posey is “Nat sh*t” crazy, I feel sorry for her daughter who’s been in my sons class a few different years and of course is just a bystander in this (K Posey had an aftercare program the school was moving in from and the new one is 1000x better and cheaper for the school and they were also moving her counselor husband out in 2019/2020 which is really why she stirred this all up). Crazy thing is by insisting bc her husband was an employee she could pick her kids teacher she implied the teacher my son had was not as good. How’s that make me and the parents of the kids in that class feel-she is selfish and sucks.
Atlanta school under federal investigation after allegations principal assigned Black students to classes based on race
Mary Lin Elementary School, which serves nearly 600 students, is in Atlanta's Candler Park neighborhood.
Atlanta(CNN) — The Department of Education's Office for Civil Rights has launched an investigation into an Atlanta public elementary school after allegations the principal was assigning Black students to certain classes.
In the letter provided to CNN, the Office for Civil Rights said it will investigate allegations of discrimination based on race and whether Atlanta Public Schools subjected students at the school "to different treatment based on race." It will also look into whether the district retaliated against the complainant.
The Office for Civil Rights launched its investigation November 14, according to a letter sent from the Department of Education to Atlanta Public Schools. The inquiry by the federal government comes more than a year after a Black mother filed a civil rights complaint with the office saying her children's elementary school placed Black students in separate classrooms from their peers based on their race.
In a September 2021 interview with CNN, parent Kila Posey, who has two children at Mary Lin Elementary School, alleged that during the 2020-2021 school year, Principal Sharyn Briscoe designated two second grade classes for Black students without the consent of families, while White students were able to be placed among all six second grade classes.
Posey and Briscoe are both Black.
Kila Posey speaks with CNN in 2021. Kila Posey speaks with CNN in 2021.
According to the initial complaint filed by Posey, the assistant principal at the school admitted in a recorded phone conversation in August 2020 that she was aware of the class separation Briscoe created, noting "class lists are always tough" and that she wished the school had more Black children. The district's chief academic officer also acknowledged in a recorded conversation in March 2021 that Briscoe admitted to designating classes for Black students, the complaint states.
Posey told CNN's John Berman in September 2021 that she found out about the school's practice when she requested her child be placed in a certain teacher's class. Briscoe, she said, told her that was not a "Black class" and that her daughter would not have anyone who looks like her in the classroom.
After Posey filed her complaint, Ian Smith, who heads the Atlanta Public Schools' Office of Communications and Public Engagement, told CNN that the district conducted a review of the allegations and that "appropriate actions were taken to address the issue and the matter was closed."
Smith added: "Atlanta Public Schools does not condone the assigning of students to classrooms based on race."
Mary Lin Elementary School Principal Sharyn Briscoe is seen in an image from the school's website. Mary Lin Elementary School Principal Sharyn Briscoe is seen in an image from the school's website.
On Tuesday, Posey told CNN she launched a second complaint on August 29, 2022, after she was fired from her role as an after-school care provider for the district, claiming her firing was "retaliation for raising the issue of segregation." Her husband, who was a school psychologist at Mary Lin, also left the school.
Responding to the claims, the district sent CNN a statement that read, "Atlanta Public Schools has received notice from OCR that a complaint was filed, and the district is following OCR's process. Given that this matter is pending before a federal administrative agency for consideration, APS has no further comment."
"To our knowledge, we do not believe they have gone back to that practice," Posey told CNN regarding her claim of segregated classrooms. "My understanding is that they had changed to some degree, but there were rooms that were not diverse."
The segregated classrooms claim shook up the predominately White and affluent community. It's also fueled a debate about whether the practice would even be considered legal or productive for the children.
In the spring, two members of the Atlanta branch of the NAACP visited Mary Lin Elementary to see whether there was merit to Posey's claims. Marilyn Barnett Waters, who at the time was the Georgia state education chair of the NAACP, told CNN she believed the school staged some of the classrooms for her visit.
"I saw African American students, in two of the classes I saw. It almost seemed like they were foreign to that class," Waters told CNN by phone Wednesday while recalling her visit. "The Black students weren't engaged with any of the other kids in the class."
"The White children seemed to have friends, but the two Black girls were sitting there, and it didn't seem like they knew each other. They kept watching me as if I was going to say something to them," she said.
Waters added there were a lot of classes that were not in session, but of those she did see, she "did not believe that the quality of education was really high."
"I saw a lot of students without direct instruction," she said.
In a statement to CNN, Atlanta Public Schools said Waters' assertion that the school setting was staged "is totally fictional."
The principal was accommodating during the visit and answered all of Waters' questions, the district said.
"When asked to give her impressions of what she observed during the visit, Dr. Waters stated that all she saw was 'a normal school day happening," according to the district.
"It is both troubling and disappointing that Dr. Waters has chosen to provide you with false statements that are an affront to the faculty and staff."
Mary Lin Elementary School is number 14 in the state and first in the district for all test scores, according to Atlanta Public Schools.
The school was founded in 1929 and there was a time in history when the school was all White. However, by the mid- to late 1990s, the racial demographics of the school were such that no classrooms were all White or all Black, according to APS.
The elementary school has 599 students in grades kindergarten through fifth grade, according to the Georgia Department of Education's latest data. Of those, 60 students are Black, according to the ethnicity/race breakdown.
Overall, public schools in Atlanta are predominately Black, according to recent data. As of October 2021, the racial demographics of Atlanta Public Schools students are 72% Black; 16% White; 8% Hispanic; 3% two or more races; 1% Asian; and 0% American Indian.
You're doing it again. You're ripping me for being too specific "Don't tell me who I support".