January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?

[Brooklyn]

Jan 6 Insurrectionist gets ''BRUTAL'' sentence and COLLAPSES in Court



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9o3LNE1CMs


Michael Popok of Legal AF reports on this week’s sentencing of Jan 6 insurrectionist and former Marine Daniel Caldwell to 68 months for spraying bear spray at 15 Capitol police almost single-handedly breaking the line of defense for the Capitol.



Triator got only 68 months -- much too light a sentence. Should have had the book thrown at him = 15 years (with hard labor) at minimum. Lucky he got one of those easy going liberal judges. Had it been me as judge, he would have been very sorry.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Order from Fulton County Judge:

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... ing-12.pdf

[Seacoaster(1)]

Here is the abbreviated Fulton County Grand Jury Report:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... l_manual_4

Doesn't really permit a lot of tea-leave reading. But, who do you think committed perjury? I am hoping it includes Graham.

[SCLaxAttack]

Here is the abbreviated Fulton County Grand Jury Report:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... l_manual_4

Doesn't really permit a lot of tea-leave reading. But, who do you think committed perjury? I am hoping it includes Graham.

Talk about anticlimactic.

Cue the MAGAts to read into this that they've got nothing on Trump.

[Seacoaster(1)]

Here is the abbreviated Fulton County Grand Jury Report:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... l_manual_4

Doesn't really permit a lot of tea-leave reading. But, who do you think committed perjury? I am hoping it includes Graham.

Talk about anticlimactic.

Cue the MAGAts to read into this that they've got nothing on Trump.

“Exonerated!!!”

[Seacoaster(1)]

Here is the abbreviated Fulton County Grand Jury Report:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... l_manual_4

Doesn't really permit a lot of tea-leave reading. But, who do you think committed perjury? I am hoping it includes Graham.

Talk about anticlimactic.

Cue the MAGAts to read into this that they've got nothing on Trump.

“Exonerated!!!”

And right on cue:

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/stat ... 81/photo/1

[Jumbo]

Here is the abbreviated Fulton County Grand Jury Report:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... l_manual_4

Doesn't really permit a lot of tea-leave reading. But, who do you think committed perjury? I am hoping it includes Graham.

Talk about anticlimactic.

Cue the MAGAts to read into this that they've got nothing on Trump.

What is a MAGAts? Are you referring to people that want to make this country great? Just trying to keep up with the gen z lingo

[Seacoaster(1)]

Here is the abbreviated Fulton County Grand Jury Report:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/document ... l_manual_4

Doesn't really permit a lot of tea-leave reading. But, who do you think committed perjury? I am hoping it includes Graham.

Talk about anticlimactic.

Cue the MAGAts to read into this that they've got nothing on Trump.

What is a MAGAts? Are you referring to people that want to make this country great? Just trying to keep up with the gen z lingo

It refers to a cult. Which, when you are in it, you can't understand.

[Jumbo]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

[Farfromgeneva]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Believing the 1960s - 1980s America was greater than today is delusional and part of being in the cult.

[Jumbo]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Believing the 1960s - 1980s America was greater than today is delusional and part of being in the cult.

Still trying to understand this gen Z logic. So people that love America are a cult. And if you like things from the 60’s -80’s, that’s a cult also? Does this count music? What exactly do these cult members like, that you don’t like? Just because they were born before you??

[Farfromgeneva]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Believing the 1960s - 1980s America was greater than today is delusional and part of being in the cult.

Still trying to understand this gen Z logic. So people that love America are a cult. And if you like things from the 60’s -80’s, that’s a cult also? Does this count music? What exactly do these cult members like, that you don’t like? Just because they were born before you??

Calling it Gen Z logic without having a clue what generation I am part of is pretty childish no? Or just lacking logic or thought. Certainly not independent thoughtful analysis. I don’t believe you can understand any real logic based on this pathetic approach to a discussion.

I don’t have any idea what your getting at but you’re not being straightforward at all. I would think some lover of America would have the character to speak plainly and say what they mean.

In other words your entire line of inquiry is idiotic and thoughtless. Not to mention loaded but afraid to say what you want to.

I bet you love Jim Crow, ITT funneling money to Latin America for the CIA, Richard Nixon lying about his folks breaking int the watergate hotel (which I financed in the early mid 2000a as an adult during graduate school at my 60hr week job in too of full time B school courseload), support Tommy the Traveller, our President being murdered, a presidential candidate and MLK being murdered, the FBIs counterintelligence against minorities, and on and one.

What kind of logic are you deploying? Probably none but some petty small mindedness. I see through you. Sophomoric attempts to frame and use low IQ heuristics don’t work.0

[Seacoaster(1)]

Interesting thread from Michael Luttig concerning Pence's claim of a "legislative privilege" against testifying in the January 6 Special Counsel proceedings:

https://twitter.com/judgeluttig/status/ ... 6946321408

He concludes:

"If there are privileges and protections enjoyed by a Vice President when he or she serves as the President of the Senate during the Joint Session to count the electoral votes, those privileges and protections would yield to the demands of criminal process as -- if not sooner than -- do the Speech or Debate Clause privileges and protections for Senators and Representatives, and the Executive Privilege for Presidents of the United States."

The real question is what is Pence trying to hide by advancing this esoteric theory that his ministerial role as vote counter immunizes him from testifying in a criminal proceeding? ....so help me God?

[njbill]

It’s either that he thinks truthful testimony will damage his candidacy for president in 2024 (he has no chance) or Mother made him do it. Probably the latter.

[Jumbo]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Believing the 1960s - 1980s America was greater than today is delusional and part of being in the cult.

Still trying to understand this gen Z logic. So people that love America are a cult. And if you like things from the 60’s -80’s, that’s a cult also? Does this count music? What exactly do these cult members like, that you don’t like? Just because they were born before you??

Calling it Gen Z logic without having a clue what generation I am part of is pretty childish no? Or just lacking logic or thought.

Considering you refer to people that love America as MAGAts, and you call someone childish….. I am still laughing at that one.

[Farfromgeneva]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Believing the 1960s - 1980s America was greater than today is delusional and part of being in the cult.

Still trying to understand this gen Z logic. So people that love America are a cult. And if you like things from the 60’s -80’s, that’s a cult also? Does this count music? What exactly do these cult members like, that you don’t like? Just because they were born before you??

Calling it Gen Z logic without having a clue what generation I am part of is pretty childish no? Or just lacking logic or thought.

Considering you refer to people that love America as MAGAts, and you call someone childish….. I am still laughing at that one.

Was that me or someone else?

And I dispute your “loves America”. So dumb and tired not even worth bothering. You don’t get to tell others what the definition is for a term they use. That’s idiotic. Probably don’t know what love is. Or laughter.

Making America Great Again is stupid as a concept and wildly regressive.

[Jumbo]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Believing the 1960s - 1980s America was greater than today is delusional and part of being in the cult.

Still trying to understand this gen Z logic. So people that love America are a cult. And if you like things from the 60’s -80’s, that’s a cult also? Does this count music? What exactly do these cult members like, that you don’t like? Just because they were born before you??

Calling it Gen Z logic without having a clue what generation I am part of is pretty childish no? Or just lacking logic or thought.

Considering you refer to people that love America as MAGAts, and you call someone childish….. I am still laughing at that one.

Was that me or someone else?

And I dispute your “loves America”. So dumb and tired not even worth bothering. You don’t get to tell others what the definition is for a term they use. That’s idiotic. Probably don’t know what love is. Or laughter.

Making America Great Again is stupid as a concept and wildly regressive.

Cool. So you don’t think others should not love America because it is a stupid concept. Gotcha.

Just curious. Are you cool with others having independent thought, or differing opinions, or is that a stupid concept also.

Still trying to understand why you are against people that want to put America first

[Seacoaster(1)]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Sorry, this post is so silly it doesn't merit a real response. Troll elsewhere maybe.

[Jumbo]

Just to clarify. So anyone that loves America, is in a cult? Are there any other characteristics we should be looking for?

Sorry, this post is so silly it doesn't merit a real response. Troll elsewhere maybe.

Someone literally said they were a cult. In fact, it was you. Are you now saying they aren’t a cult and your original response was silly? Or are you saying it is silly to question your response??

[NattyBohChamps04]

First argument on the politics forum is about a phony 2016 political slogan? This is gonna be a great train wreck.