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Turnandrake wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:08 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
Turnandrake wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:46 pm Hopkins wins 2 games jump into the top 10 ranking. A lost tonight and a lost this Saturday do they drop out the top 20 just as quick?
Depends … if Loyola blows them out, they’re out.

If they stay in the game, they’re in.

Blue Jays can win the game, but their legs are going to be dead even before the game starts.

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And UNC travels to Ohio this weekend back to back road games. Stop with scheduling excuses
Who are you to tell me to do anything?

I think the second half speaks for itself. North Carolina played a terrific game, but only one team ran out of gas in the second half.

It’s an observation, not an excuse.

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HopFan16 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:03 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:00 pm Marcille's 58% is top rate, but Krieg's was even better at 67%
Yep that's how numbers work
Don't get me wrong, Krieg was very good, but Jays finishing was not great. To my eye, they hit him with the ball a couple times from in close or didn't throw a fake.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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To win the B1G you have to beat 2 top teams in three days. Same for the title game. I don’t have a problem with the schedule particularly if it means keeping UNC. Plenty of time to overcome a loss or two.

If Quint reported an event happened it did.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I have actually seen studies comparing sports on the average distance that players run during a game. Highly position-dependent, of course, but lacrosse players run almost twice as much during a game on average as a basketball player. It’s one reason basketball teams play 30 games and lacrosse teams half of that.

Then there’s baseball … as John Kruk once told an aging female fan (while he was smoking), “Lady, I'm not an athlete. I'm a professional baseball player.”

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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:24 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I have actually seen studies comparing sports on the average distance that players run during a game. Highly position-dependent, of course, but lacrosse players run almost twice as much during a game on average as a basketball player. It’s one reason basketball teams play 30 games and lacrosse teams half of that.

Then there’s baseball … as John Kruk once told an aging female fan (while he was smoking), “Lady, I'm not an athlete. I'm a professional baseball player.”

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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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nyjay wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:57 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:41 pm
Quint’s one of the best goalies of all time.

Why isn’t that mentioned more around here?

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Absolutely true - he was awesome and a lot of fun to watch. Little dude and unbelievably quick with great stick skills and a huge chip on his shoulder. Had an awesome D in front of him too, DP, James DeTo, Voelker, etc. He also deserves an enormous amount of credit for creating the media career for himself that he has. No one can doubt his work ethic either. He is a unique personality though.
All true.

Quint K … two-time Kelly Award winner, four-time AA (including twice first team AA), two national title games, one national championship, 0.629 career save percentage … how is Quint not in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame after 30 years?

He was pretty active around the net, intercepting passes and causing turnovers.

His journalistic career is really an extension of his playing excellence.

I get credit for taking him to one of his freshman orientation events. :)

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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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HopFan16 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:25 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:10 pm Could have substituted Towson or UMBC for North Carolina.
No, you're not getting it. The weekend we usually play UNC wasn't an option. The Heels have to play Syracuse that weekend now, the first of two meetings as part of the ACC's pestilent new scheduling system. That's why we had to go find a new opponent for that weekend (Utah), otherwise we wouldn't be playing anyone Feb. 25. The question was whether or not to schedule UNC midweek instead — really the only option if you want to keep the game — or to drop the game altogether. If they dropped the game, they wouldn't have substituted a different team in. They would have just played 14 games instead of 15 with no game today.
TNLAX wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:08 pm
flalax22 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:59 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:54 pm
Madlax59 wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:52 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 6:39 pm UNC adjusting on O, JHU not adjusting on D.
Didnt watch the Georgetown game....but how did JHU beat them. Hard to believe same team. Begs the question why would you schedule UNC 3 days after playing G'town??
The scheduling is stupid. Absolutely stupid.

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So is lifting after a game when you have a Tuesday game coming up. Totally asinine
This may have been a case of Quint just talking to say something. I find it hard to believe any trainer would have a team lifting after playing a game. Stretching and maybe some sort of very light exercise to help cool down I can see.
That's what it sounded like to me. It is extremely common for competitive D1 athletes to continue moving/light work following a game. Ever go into a professional locker room/facility after a contest? Lots of guys on stationary bikes. This is a nothingburger.
Quint mentioned it was a short 45 minute “workout”. I took it to mean a cool down routine. Could have very easily been 30 minutes of cool and a stretch. He also mentioned nutritionist and specialists. I highly doubt Hopkins is going through a strenuous workout post game. Good game tonight. They will be fine.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I just spit out my damned bourbon. 😂😂
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...and the wlaxers run farther than any of them.
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This wasn't the difference in the game, but I thought the zebras were supposed to be emphasizing hits to the head this year? Peshko took a crosscheck to the head/neck on the crease goal that was waved off. I doubt we'd have scored on the man-up given how that unit looked today but if you're going to go out of your way in the offseason to tell people you're taking these hits more seriously, then maybe make this call. In slow-mo it looks like he was pushed in the back too, but to me that was less egregious than the crosscheck to the dome. Twitter sure seems to think that was a goal. I'd say we should let Twitter ref the games instead but that probably wouldn't work out for us most of the time.

https://twitter.com/LacrosseNetwork/sta ... 4220214272
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm Quint mentioned it was a short 45 minute “workout”. I took it to mean a cool down routine. Could have very easily been 30 minutes of cool and a stretch. He also mentioned nutritionist and specialists. I highly doubt Hopkins is going through a strenuous workout post game. Good game tonight. They will be fine.
Exactly. Anyone who has ever played a sport competitively knows that this is completely normal.
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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:26 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:24 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I have actually seen studies comparing sports on the average distance that players run during a game. Highly position-dependent, of course, but lacrosse players run almost twice as much during a game on average as a basketball player. It’s one reason basketball teams play 30 games and lacrosse teams half of that.

Then there’s baseball … as John Kruk once told an aging female fan (while he was smoking), “Lady, I'm not an athlete. I'm a professional baseball player.”

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source?
You’re always too lazy to look things up yourself.

Kruk quote: https://www.baseball-reference.com/bull ... ruk#Quotes

Lacrosse running (although not the study I recall from years ago): https://lacrossepack.com/do-you-run-a-lot-in-lacrosse/

Basketball running: https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-st ... us-sports/

And no, I will not do your other homework for you. :roll:

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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I just spit out my damned bourbon. 😂😂
We already know you only post while intoxicated. ;)

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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:42 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:26 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:24 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I have actually seen studies comparing sports on the average distance that players run during a game. Highly position-dependent, of course, but lacrosse players run almost twice as much during a game on average as a basketball player. It’s one reason basketball teams play 30 games and lacrosse teams half of that.

Then there’s baseball … as John Kruk once told an aging female fan (while he was smoking), “Lady, I'm not an athlete. I'm a professional baseball player.”

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source?
You’re always too lazy to look things up yourself.

Kruk quote: https://www.baseball-reference.com/bull ... ruk#Quotes

Lacrosse running (although not the study I recall from years ago): https://lacrossepack.com/do-you-run-a-lot-in-lacrosse/

Basketball running: https://www.runnersworld.com/runners-st ... us-sports/

And no, I will not do your other homework for you. :roll:

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that's the good stuff, doc. is that a lacrosse *study* or some guy blogging? i couldn't tell as the link had ads attacking my phone. thanks for the trojan horse.

as long as we're doing articles:
here's h.s basketball:
https://www.usab.com/youth/news/2012/08 ... -game.aspx
maybe the young guys run more than the old farts.

and lacrosse:
https://sportsperformancetracking.com/b ... 74%20yards).

looks like it's at least a tie (or worse for lax) depending on what your spam article says.

teams are flying halfway across the country and back. 3 games in 8 days for like 16 weeks. and that's before the conference champ, which could be 4 or 5 days in a row. and then nc$$.

you're pretending this is like billing some patsy for15 hours in a row.
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DocBarrister wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:44 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I just spit out my damned bourbon. 😂😂
We already know you only post while intoxicated. ;)

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Re: Johns Hopkins 2023

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Collison is pretty unique and something we haven't had since Tinney: a middie who can create his own shot when defended by a pole. Remarkable that he can do it without creating separation. Eventually teams will need to slide to that sweep move, and that will create a ton of opportunities for other guys. I'd keep running that until someone stops it.
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DMac wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:38 pm ...and the wlaxers run farther than any of them.
This may be true.

Most of the studies in lacrosse actually studied the women’s game. For example, this study shows women laxers may run about 5 miles a game, much more than basketball.

https://journal.iusca.org/index.php/Jou ... ad/78/174/

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youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I just spit out my damned bourbon. 😂😂
Don't show Doc how many games Hopkins men's soccer plays a year....he might lose it.
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a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:05 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I just spit out my damned bourbon. 😂😂
Don't show Doc how many games Hopkins men's soccer plays a year....he might lose it.
bunch of midweek games, too. amateur managers.

where the eff was collison in the 4th? he have a 5k pregame?
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a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 11:05 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:36 pm
wgdsr wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 9:05 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:50 pm
youthathletics wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 8:15 pm
a fan wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2023 7:56 pm Wait to you hear about the Final Four, where you have to play for all the marbles on two day's rest....or to help with the math, 3 games in 9 days. Against the best teams in D1.

Seem to remember Hopkins players faring quite well with the 3 games in 9 days format.
how dare you 😂😂. Quint even said the same thing in the early portion of the game. And how in the hell did anyone know Loyola would beat UMD after a crappy 22’ season.

Hopfan16 makes a valuable argument. Scheduling teams is tough, especially with conference games locked in. You often take what you can get, and it is often a 2-year deal.

I think it’s the bands fault, when the players don’t hear them after goals, it creates stress on the field and the play tighter. 😉😂
Or maybe it's just that Milliman knows a mess more about the schedule and his team than we do.

Well, except Doc, naturally.
i'm not even sure how all these basketball teams are playing every week.
I just spit out my damned bourbon. 😂😂
Don't show Doc how many games Hopkins men's soccer plays a year....he might lose it.
I think soccer is a bit less of an intense sport overall because you don’t have the same kind of hitting as you do in lacrosse. There’s a reason lacrosse players wear helmets and pads while soccer players do not.

Still, JHU soccer had 17 regular season games while Hopkins lax has 15. Comparable ….

https://hopkinssports.com/sports/mens-s ... edule/2022

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Any news on Callahan, who only took 1 FO? Only 21 played (not including Callahan), fewest in 3 games. Only obvious healthy scratch was Todaro, who played briefly vs GU.
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