Ron Desantis (The Desantis Doctrine)

[cradleandshoot]

Cradle,
At least I bother to state facts and logic.

Believe me, there are many more than “FFP” who see DeSantis as I describe.

Correction, you state what you believe to be facts and logic as you interpret them. The more I understand politicians from both parties you should be more careful about how you determine logic. How is this for logic. The Senate wants to vote on this trillion dollar plus omnibus package and nobody will ever have the chance to read the damn thing before they vote on it in 2 days. Is that a logical thing to do in your opinion? It is likely going to pass and then we will know eventually how the money will be spent/wasted by the gubmint. In my world the logical thing to do would be to read the bill and understand what is being spent and why. Logic isn't what runs Washington DC now is it? It's more fun to debate on this forum what a scumbag RD is or isn't. The Democrats appear to be scared about RD because they think his message may resonate with the GOP base. RD may be the biggest chuckle head on the face of the planet but all the flak being thrown his way tells me the Democrat wonks see him as a clear and present danger to keeping the white house. They are extending a lot of energy to paint the picture of RD they want the people to see. There would be no need for such a pre emptive strike if they didn't deem him to be a threat to their party maintaining power. That is IMO a logical observation.

cradle, I hate getting personal, but you're being incredibly dense.

If you'd like to present a fact that you have confirmed and are confident is true, by all means do so.
Or show me where any fact I've presented about DeSantis over the past year and a half isn't accurate...go ahead.

Likewise, go ahead and present any logic you'd like about whether DeSantis is or is not a "scumbag" ...after doing some actual research on DeSantis. But "I don't know diddly jack about who RD is" ain't cutting it.

Yes, I agree that DeSantis is currently the most formidable threat to the Dems winning again in 2024. The GOP donors currently think so, too. And, sure, that's going to attract attention that DeSantis hasn't previously garnered. I doubt we'll find a wholesale fraud like this cat from your state (how the heck did he get through NYS GOP vetting???), but having been much closer to DeSantis due to being in Florida much of the past 3 years, I think they'll find a quite unlikable person...and they'll find him to be courting the very far right that turns the middle off.

That might attract you, but it doesn't me.

I have no problem with you thinking I'm being incredibly dense. FTR I'm not supporting RD in any way, shape or form. You dislike him because he is not your cup of tea when it comes to what you look for in a Republican. I'm only pointing out what I observe and I have a pretty good understanding of human nature. He is very popular in the state that just reelected him. That popularity is what he might use as a jumping point if he chooses to run. IMO NJ Bill made a brilliant observation that 2024 may be too filled with political landmines to enter the fray. Too many wildcards out there. Will trump actually run with all of the turmoil surrounding him? The time is ripe for a 3rd party candidate that could gain traction and dilute the 2024 voting pool. In my world Liz Cheney is the logical choice for the Republicans. She is seriously disliked by many in her own party but will likely vote for her given the fact she is more appealing to a conservative Republican than Biden is. You do understand that your friends on this forum will lose their love affair with Liz in a heartbeat should she choose to run? Poor Liz will then be eviscerated because after all... She is Dick Cheney's daughter. You can doubt me on this at your own risk. You are well aware of the love the usual FLP folks on this forum have for the Cheney family? FTR, I would vote for Liz Cheney in a heartbeat. I bet most of the folks on this forum will never do so. IMO Liz will have outlived her usefulness to them and will be nothing more than Dick Cheney's daughter.

[Farfromgeneva]

Another DeSanctimonious scam fails. Ronnie has been trying to terrorize Florida school employees over disagreeing with his dumbass over LGBTQ issues. So he packed the Broward County school board with his ass lickers last year. On Nov 14, 2022, post-election, the school board fired the Superintendent. The members who voted to fire the Superintendent, all but one, had lost their mid-term elections, and voted as lame ducks. Yesterday the new school board took up the issue and reversed the decision and restored the Superintendent. I am sure the county is facing legal bills for the removal and packing of the school board and the unlawful firing of the Superintendent. This dumbass sh*t will catch up with the scum bag when he next runs for office. He will not be elected POTUS. He won't be running exclusively in a brain-dead state.

Sounds like Ron has you scared chitless Dr Wizard?? A brain dead PhD whining about a brain dead state.

... what a life. I get to live rent free!! Only complaint, the space is on the small side.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/media/9-of- ... n-the-u-s/#

[jhu72]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

[MDlaxfan76]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

[cradleandshoot]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

[cradleandshoot]

Another DeSanctimonious scam fails. Ronnie has been trying to terrorize Florida school employees over disagreeing with his dumbass over LGBTQ issues. So he packed the Broward County school board with his ass lickers last year. On Nov 14, 2022, post-election, the school board fired the Superintendent. The members who voted to fire the Superintendent, all but one, had lost their mid-term elections, and voted as lame ducks. Yesterday the new school board took up the issue and reversed the decision and restored the Superintendent. I am sure the county is facing legal bills for the removal and packing of the school board and the unlawful firing of the Superintendent. This dumbass sh*t will catch up with the scum bag when he next runs for office. He will not be elected POTUS. He won't be running exclusively in a brain-dead state.

Sounds like Ron has you scared chitless Dr Wizard?? A brain dead PhD whining about a brain dead state.

... what a life. I get to live rent free!! Only complaint, the space is on the small side.

Hasn't your wife been complaining about the small side since your wedding night?

[MDlaxfan76]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

[cradleandshoot]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

The people of Florida did your homework. They reelected him by a very wide margin. It would be just as useful if you accepted that fact. I guess much to your chagrin they don't accept your opinion. Maybe judging by your very high standards there are millions of fascist creeps residing in the state of Florida. The people of Florida spoke, maybe you should accept their decision and get over it. FTR, I'm not all that enamored with Gov. Hochul being elected in NYS. She won the election fair and square. Maybe you need to put your little DeSantis snit behind you and wait until he makes his decision for 2024. Time for you to put your big boy pants on and stop whining about the man.

[MDlaxfan76]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

The people of Florida did your homework. They reelected him by a very wide margin. It would be just as useful if you accepted that fact. I guess much to your chagrin they don't accept your opinion. Maybe judging by your very high standards there are millions of fascist creeps residing in the state of Florida. The people of Florida spoke, maybe you should accept their decision and get over it. FTR, I'm not all that enamored with Gov. Hochul being elected in NYS. She won the election fair and square. Maybe you need to put your little DeSantis snit behind you and wait until he makes his decision for 2024. Time for you to put your big boy pants on and stop whining about the man.

Yes, there are. Or at least the same sorts as unwittingly bought into fascism in Italy under Mussolini or Nazism under Hitler, seduced...and then it was too late.

Current fascists know that the label turns people off, but that's what their authoritarianism is all about.

But hey, if you don't want to do the homework, par for the course from you.

You can just get in line with the other goose steppers.

[cradleandshoot]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

The people of Florida did your homework. They reelected him by a very wide margin. It would be just as useful if you accepted that fact. I guess much to your chagrin they don't accept your opinion. Maybe judging by your very high standards there are millions of fascist creeps residing in the state of Florida. The people of Florida spoke, maybe you should accept their decision and get over it. FTR, I'm not all that enamored with Gov. Hochul being elected in NYS. She won the election fair and square. Maybe you need to put your little DeSantis snit behind you and wait until he makes his decision for 2024. Time for you to put your big boy pants on and stop whining about the man.

Yes, there are. Or at least the same sorts as unwittingly bought into fascism in Italy under Mussolini or Nazism under Hitler, seduced...and then it was too late.

Current fascists know that the label turns people off, but that's what their authoritarianism is all about.

But hey, if you don't want to do the homework, par for the course from you.

You can just get in line with the other goose steppers.

I think your obsession and hatred towards RD is causing you extreme emotional trauma. FTR, my dad died with " fascist" 88 shrapnel still in his back. So you can take your goose stepping comment and roll it up into a little ball and stick it up your ass. Your rapid decline into the world of hatred and intolerance is a sad thing to witness. You need a vacation, maybe a couple of weeks in Florida will do you a world of good?

[MDlaxfan76]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

The people of Florida did your homework. They reelected him by a very wide margin. It would be just as useful if you accepted that fact. I guess much to your chagrin they don't accept your opinion. Maybe judging by your very high standards there are millions of fascist creeps residing in the state of Florida. The people of Florida spoke, maybe you should accept their decision and get over it. FTR, I'm not all that enamored with Gov. Hochul being elected in NYS. She won the election fair and square. Maybe you need to put your little DeSantis snit behind you and wait until he makes his decision for 2024. Time for you to put your big boy pants on and stop whining about the man.

Yes, there are. Or at least the same sorts as unwittingly bought into fascism in Italy under Mussolini or Nazism under Hitler, seduced...and then it was too late.

Current fascists know that the label turns people off, but that's what their authoritarianism is all about.

But hey, if you don't want to do the homework, par for the course from you.

You can just get in line with the other goose steppers.

I think your obsession and hatred towards RD is causing you extreme emotional trauma. FTR, my dad died with " fascist" 88 shrapnel still in his back. So you can take your goose stepping comment and roll it up into a little ball and stick it up your ass. Your rapid decline into the world of hatred and intolerance is a sad thing to witness. You need a vacation, maybe a couple of weeks in Florida will do you a world of good?

First, I don't have "hatred towards DeSantis", I merely think that I'm accurate in my assessment of his authoritarian "fascist" tendencies.
He may well not kick his dog if he has one.

But yes, he's repeatedly displayed authoritarian tendencies, disregard for rule of law, and divisive "populist" rhetoric and "cultural" policies. Many people are attracted to such. Heck of a lot of people, actually. His particular brand of fascism is Christian Nationalist. Big in the southern states and Bible Belt generally.

Again, if you don't want to do the homework and just want to go along and get in line for this wing of the GOP, I think my goose stepper comment is on point. Glad it got your attention.

[jhu72]

Yup, with DeSantis you will get to goose step all the way to church, every morning, whether you want to or not, regardless of whether you have schrapnell in your shoulder or not.

[cradleandshoot]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

The people of Florida did your homework. They reelected him by a very wide margin. It would be just as useful if you accepted that fact. I guess much to your chagrin they don't accept your opinion. Maybe judging by your very high standards there are millions of fascist creeps residing in the state of Florida. The people of Florida spoke, maybe you should accept their decision and get over it. FTR, I'm not all that enamored with Gov. Hochul being elected in NYS. She won the election fair and square. Maybe you need to put your little DeSantis snit behind you and wait until he makes his decision for 2024. Time for you to put your big boy pants on and stop whining about the man.

Yes, there are. Or at least the same sorts as unwittingly bought into fascism in Italy under Mussolini or Nazism under Hitler, seduced...and then it was too late.

Current fascists know that the label turns people off, but that's what their authoritarianism is all about.

But hey, if you don't want to do the homework, par for the course from you.

You can just get in line with the other goose steppers.

I think your obsession and hatred towards RD is causing you extreme emotional trauma. FTR, my dad died with " fascist" 88 shrapnel still in his back. So you can take your goose stepping comment and roll it up into a little ball and stick it up your ass. Your rapid decline into the world of hatred and intolerance is a sad thing to witness. You need a vacation, maybe a couple of weeks in Florida will do you a world of good?

First, I don't have "hatred towards DeSantis", I merely think that I'm accurate in my assessment of his authoritarian "fascist" tendencies.
He may well not kick his dog if he has one.

But yes, he's repeatedly displayed authoritarian tendencies, disregard for rule of law, and divisive "populist" rhetoric and "cultural" policies. Many people are attracted to such. Heck of a lot of people, actually. His particular brand of fascism is Christian Nationalist. Big in the southern states and Bible Belt generally.

Again, if you don't want to do the homework and just want to go along and get in line for this wing of the GOP, I think my goose stepper comment is on point. Glad it got your attention.

It got my attention to the degree it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt what an angry old man you are. I am more concerned with who is governor of NYS and what stupid policy/policies they are going to implement. If dropping a load in your britches about who or what RD is makes you happy then good for you. RD is living rent free in your head and you seem more than happy to let him live there. FTR, if you were paying attention NJ Bill made a brilliant observation about RD running for POTUS. Unless he is the most impatient politician on the planet he has to recognize what a chitshow YOUR party is staring at in 2024. Does he want to run knowing possibly that trump would run as a 3rd party candidate to dilute the pool of Republican voters? I say let Liz Cheney carry the torch in 2024. She is a conservative and I would vote for her because she has bigger balls than most of the other folks in your party. I bet the usual suspects on this forum will vote for her as well. I can see Dr Wizard with a Liz 2024 bumper sticker in his EV.
I don't know why you despise RD so much, I'm guessing it has much to do with Pete Browns love affair with him which IMO explains a lot of your hostility. I hope your family has a great New Years Eve. FTR, I have no opinion yet about RD other than I don't think he is a fascist. He must be doing something right, even trump hates him.

[cradleandshoot]

Yup, with DeSantis you will get to goose step all the way to church, every morning, whether you want to or not, regardless of whether you have schrapnell in your shoulder or not.

I'm not a church going guy Dr Wizard. Goose stepping to church might work for those Mussolini types. He did give the pope his own country. FTR my dad was wounded in his back by fascist artillery fire during the Battle of the Bulge. The wound was less severe than the trench foot. His platoon medic had no suture material left in his kit bag. The old man had some sulfa powder and about half a dozen safety pins to close the wound. My dad refused to accept his purple he never felt his wounds were deserving of such recognition considering all of his fellow soldiers who suffered grievous injuries in combat. He wasn't privileged to the same treatment John Kerry was. Three didn't win you a free ride out of combat. Folks of his generation kept fighting and dying and bleeding until they were dead or the war was won.

[MDlaxfan76]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

The people of Florida did your homework. They reelected him by a very wide margin. It would be just as useful if you accepted that fact. I guess much to your chagrin they don't accept your opinion. Maybe judging by your very high standards there are millions of fascist creeps residing in the state of Florida. The people of Florida spoke, maybe you should accept their decision and get over it. FTR, I'm not all that enamored with Gov. Hochul being elected in NYS. She won the election fair and square. Maybe you need to put your little DeSantis snit behind you and wait until he makes his decision for 2024. Time for you to put your big boy pants on and stop whining about the man.

Yes, there are. Or at least the same sorts as unwittingly bought into fascism in Italy under Mussolini or Nazism under Hitler, seduced...and then it was too late.

Current fascists know that the label turns people off, but that's what their authoritarianism is all about.

But hey, if you don't want to do the homework, par for the course from you.

You can just get in line with the other goose steppers.

I think your obsession and hatred towards RD is causing you extreme emotional trauma. FTR, my dad died with " fascist" 88 shrapnel still in his back. So you can take your goose stepping comment and roll it up into a little ball and stick it up your ass. Your rapid decline into the world of hatred and intolerance is a sad thing to witness. You need a vacation, maybe a couple of weeks in Florida will do you a world of good?

First, I don't have "hatred towards DeSantis", I merely think that I'm accurate in my assessment of his authoritarian "fascist" tendencies.
He may well not kick his dog if he has one.

But yes, he's repeatedly displayed authoritarian tendencies, disregard for rule of law, and divisive "populist" rhetoric and "cultural" policies. Many people are attracted to such. Heck of a lot of people, actually. His particular brand of fascism is Christian Nationalist. Big in the southern states and Bible Belt generally.

Again, if you don't want to do the homework and just want to go along and get in line for this wing of the GOP, I think my goose stepper comment is on point. Glad it got your attention.

It got my attention to the degree it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt what an angry old man you are. I am more concerned with who is governor of NYS and what stupid policy/policies they are going to implement. If dropping a load in your britches about who or what RD is makes you happy then good for you. RD is living rent free in your head and you seem more than happy to let him live there. FTR, if you were paying attention NJ Bill made a brilliant observation about RD running for POTUS. Unless he is the most impatient politician on the planet he has to recognize what a chitshow YOUR party is staring at in 2024. Does he want to run knowing possibly that trump would run as a 3rd party candidate to dilute the pool of Republican voters? I say let Liz Cheney carry the torch in 2024. She is a conservative and I would vote for her because she has bigger balls than most of the other folks in your party. I bet the usual suspects on this forum will vote for her as well. I can see Dr Wizard with a Liz 2024 bumper sticker in his EV.
I don't know why you despise RD so much, I'm guessing it has much to do with Pete Browns love affair with him which IMO explains a lot of your hostility. I hope your family has a great New Years Eve. FTR, I have no opinion yet about RD other than I don't think he is a fascist. He must be doing something right, even trump hates him.

Again, when you've actually done your homework on the current co-front runner for the GOP nomination for POTUS 2024, come on back and we can discuss what sort of fascist DeSantis is...or is not, in your opinion. Until then, it's just rants by you.

And until DeSantis drops out of the running formally, I'm going to take the threat seriously. And, for 6 months of the year, I live in this state he governs, so that matter too...to me.

And OBTW, this just happens to be the DeSantis thread, started by gator troll Petey, so, if you wish to avoid discussions of DeSantis, my advice would be to start by avoiding this thread...

I wish you and yours a very happy New Year as well.

[cradleandshoot]

Ron DeSanctimonious loses his fourth faux voter fraud case.

He's such a fascist creep.

Not just any old creep but a fascist creep to boot. Your sure handy at labeling people. Is that your conservative side or your progressive side speaking?

I've more than adequately explained why I see him as fascist. I don't think I'd used the word creep before, but that's clear as a bell too.

If you want to homework this a bit before commenting otherwise, that would be useful.

The people of Florida did your homework. They reelected him by a very wide margin. It would be just as useful if you accepted that fact. I guess much to your chagrin they don't accept your opinion. Maybe judging by your very high standards there are millions of fascist creeps residing in the state of Florida. The people of Florida spoke, maybe you should accept their decision and get over it. FTR, I'm not all that enamored with Gov. Hochul being elected in NYS. She won the election fair and square. Maybe you need to put your little DeSantis snit behind you and wait until he makes his decision for 2024. Time for you to put your big boy pants on and stop whining about the man.

Yes, there are. Or at least the same sorts as unwittingly bought into fascism in Italy under Mussolini or Nazism under Hitler, seduced...and then it was too late.

Current fascists know that the label turns people off, but that's what their authoritarianism is all about.

But hey, if you don't want to do the homework, par for the course from you.

You can just get in line with the other goose steppers.

I think your obsession and hatred towards RD is causing you extreme emotional trauma. FTR, my dad died with " fascist" 88 shrapnel still in his back. So you can take your goose stepping comment and no roll it up into a little ball and stick it up your ass. Your rapid decline into the world of hatred and intolerance is a sad thing to witness. You need a vacation, maybe a couple of weeks in Florida will do you a world of good?

First, I don't have "hatred towards DeSantis", I merely think that I'm accurate in my assessment of his authoritarian "fascist" tendencies.
He may well not kick his dog if he has one.

But yes, he's repeatedly displayed authoritarian tendencies, disregard for rule of law, and divisive "populist" rhetoric and "cultural" policies. Many people are attracted to such. Heck of a lot of people, actually. His particular brand of fascism is Christian Nationalist. Big in the southern states and Bible Belt generally.

Again, if you don't want to do the homework and just want to go along and get in line for this wing of the GOP, I think my goose stepper comment is on point. Glad it got your attention.

It got my attention to the degree it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt what an angry old man you are. I am more concerned with who is governor of NYS and what stupid policy/policies they are going to implement. If dropping a load in your britches about who or what RD is makes you happy then good for you. RD is living rent free in your head and you seem more than happy to let him live there. FTR, if you were paying attention NJ Bill made a brilliant observation about RD running for POTUS. Unless he is the most impatient politician on the planet he has to recognize what a chitshow YOUR party is staring at in 2024. Does he want to run knowing possibly that trump would run as a 3rd party candidate to dilute the pool of Republican voters? I say let Liz Cheney carry the torch in 2024. She is a conservative and I would vote for her because she has bigger balls than most of the other folks in your party. I bet the usual suspects on this forum will vote for her as well. I can see Dr Wizard with a Liz 2024 bumper sticker in his EV.
I don't know why you despise RD so much, I'm guessing it has much to do with Pete Browns love affair with him which IMO explains a lot of your hostility. I hope your family has a great New Years Eve. FTR, I have no opinion yet about RD other than I don't think he is a fascist. He must be doing something right, even trump hates him.

Again, when you've actually done your homework on the current co-front runner for the GOP nomination for POTUS 2024, come on back and we can discuss what sort of fascist DeSantis is...or is not, in your opinion. Until then, it's just rants by you.

And until DeSantis drops out of the running formally, I'm going to take the threat seriously. And, for 6 months of the year, I live in this state he governs, so that matter too...to me.

And OBTW, this just happens to be the DeSantis thread, started by gator troll Petey, so, if you wish to avoid discussions of DeSantis, my advice would be to start by avoiding this thread...

I wish you and yours a very happy New Year as well.

What you consider as me doing my " homework" is a sorry attempt on your part to persuade me to your way of thinking. I understand why your so angry. Your a lifelong member of the Republican party who has nothing but contempt and resentment for your own party. I'm not certain there are more than a handful of Republicans that would receive your seal of approval. Maybe when YOUR party invites you to speak at the 2024 RNC you can clarify your antagonism towards the party you have been an avid member of for your entire life? Your stated and implied goal is to persuade YOUR party into your Mr Magoo vision for YOUR party. Why don't you finally admit the simple fact YOUR party has kicked you to the curb. You will then have a clear conscience to support who you like. You may have been a lifelong Republican, my condolences there, but YOUR party and your values don't even live on the same planet anymore. Your no more a Republican anymore than I am. Way past time for you to wake up and smell the coffee. You can explain yourself better when your invited to speak at the 2024 RNC show. IMO and this should make you very happy, I don't think RD will run in 2024. That would be problematic for him as long as trump is still in the picture. I'm all about Liz Cheney being the 2024 GOP candidate. She would probably wind up being a political sacrificial lamb but we might have one thing in common, we would both vote for her. I'm not sure the other usual suspects on this forum will be as rabid in their support for Liz. Maybe you can use your power of persuasion to change their minds?? Look up fat chance in the dictionary for the answer for that. I hope that over time you heal from your severe case of DeSantaphobia.

[MDlaxfan76]

Homework requires effort, time, and reading comprehension.

You need not read any of my posts explaining my view of DeSantis, but if you haven't, then please STFU about my opinions.

You are free to instead spend time and energy educating yourself on what policies DeSantis has implemented, what rhetoric he has employed, that others see as indication of his being an "authoritarian" or "fascist" or "Christian Nationalist".

Try googling his name with each of those words/phrases.

Come to your own conclusions...after doing the homework.

Or just avoid this thread if you don't want to bother with doing homework and prefer instead to remain in a state of self-professed ignorance about DeSantis.

[jhu72]

Yup, with DeSantis you will get to goose step all the way to church, every morning, whether you want to or not, regardless of whether you have schrapnell in your shoulder or not.

I'm not a church going guy Dr Wizard. Goose stepping to church might work for those Mussolini types. He did give the pope his own country. FTR my dad was wounded in his back by fascist artillery fire during the Battle of the Bulge. The wound was less severe than the trench foot. His platoon medic had no suture material left in his kit bag. The old man had some sulfa powder and about half a dozen safety pins to close the wound. My dad refused to accept his purple he never felt his wounds were deserving of such recognition considering all of his fellow soldiers who suffered grievous injuries in combat. He wasn't privileged to the same treatment John Kerry was. Three didn't win you a free ride out of combat. Folks of his generation kept fighting and dying and bleeding until they were dead or the war was won.

... guys like DeSantis aren't going to give you a choice whether you go to church daily. He will have one of his brown shirt Karens on the lookout for people like you. They will start sending around a couple guys with guns to convince you that you want to go to church. They are not going to care about your dad or his schrapnell. You should vote for him for president.

[cradleandshoot]

Yup, with DeSantis you will get to goose step all the way to church, every morning, whether you want to or not, regardless of whether you have schrapnell in your shoulder or not.

I'm not a church going guy Dr Wizard. Goose stepping to church might work for those Mussolini types. He did give the pope his own country. FTR my dad was wounded in his back by fascist artillery fire during the Battle of the Bulge. The wound was less severe than the trench foot. His platoon medic had no suture material left in his kit bag. The old man had some sulfa powder and about half a dozen safety pins to close the wound. My dad refused to accept his purple he never felt his wounds were deserving of such recognition considering all of his fellow soldiers who suffered grievous injuries in combat. He wasn't privileged to the same treatment John Kerry was. Three didn't win you a free ride out of combat. Folks of his generation kept fighting and dying and bleeding until they were dead or the war was won.

... guys like DeSantis aren't going to give you a choice whether you go to church daily. He will have one of his brown shirt Karens on the lookout for people like you. They will start sending around a couple guys with guns to convince you that you want to go to church. They are not going to care about your dad or his schrapnell. You should vote for him for president.

I care about my dads wounds and the sacrifice he made for you and I. I'm not certain RD would want to wade into the 2024 election chitshow as long as trump is either still breathing or is not in a federal prison someplace. I'm all in for Liz Cheney for POTUS in 2024. Even MD Lax might possibly vote for her. So are you on the Liz Cheney wagon or not? All you have to do is forget she is Dick Cheneys daughter. After your done gagging and puking about that potential GOP candidate tell us why you will throw Liz under the FLP bus?

[MDlaxfan76]

In national elections, I don't expect most Dems to vote for a Republican, just as I (normally) would not expect many Republicans to vote Dem...these are weird times, but if we get back to sane politics, that'll be the pattern.

The question is whether the unaligned tilt one way or the other in any given election and whether voters of any particular group turnout higher than usual.

But times are indeed weird, so I'll likely crossover.

I've only voted for a Dem for POTUS once in my life, but until MAGA (and any other brand of Christian Nationalist, etc) is put down hard, Dems are going to be my default for a bit.

I'd vote for Cheney in a heartbeat over DeSantis, and I'll have the opportunity to make that choice in the GOP primaries should they both run. I won't vote for Trump or DeSantis or Abbott or Cruz or Hawley or any other MAGA Republican in the primaries, nor in the general, period.

On the other hand, the Dems will need to put up a decent person to earn my vote, OR the GOP puts up a MAGA. I'd even take a Warren over a MAGA at this point.

Biden, even old and doddering two years from now, is better than any MAGA by a long shot.