Inside Lacrosse Top 50

[DMac]

Bart wrote
Now if I were to have a team I would gladly take either and I can enjoy what both bring to the field but to me Ms Appuzzo is the more rounded player per stats.

Move this up to the pro league and it becomes clearly evident who the more rounded player is/was. North was chosen first the first week and I think one other time. Meanwhile, Mastroianni was chosen first several times (a more well rounded player). Had Appuzzo not been the Captain doing the choosing so many weeks she likely would have been the first choice every time over North...well rounded matters. CN is a force, to say she's a one trick pony is shorting her, but saying she's a well rounded player is not seeing her for what she is.

[Brownlax]

Now posts criticizing ONW have been removed by admin. Why is this happening - how can one person be so disruptive of the Women's D1 forum and NOTHING is done about it?

[Bart]

Now posts criticizing ONW have been removed by admin. Why is this happening - how can one person be so disruptive of the Women's D1 forum and NOTHING is done about it?

Perhaps he is Admin's brother-in-law. You know have to keep the family holiday spirit.







This is a joke.............................

[Dr. Tact]

What happened...i was so looking forward to reading my fave soap opera....whole pages disappeared?

[njbill]

Now posts criticizing ONW have been removed by admin. Why is this happening - how can one person be so disruptive of the Women's D1 forum and NOTHING is done about it?

They were moved to the fanlax Feedback board and the trolling thread.

[Dr. Tact]

Now posts criticizing ONW have been removed by admin. Why is this happening - how can one person be so disruptive of the Women's D1 forum and NOTHING is done about it?

They were moved to the fanlax Feedback board and the trolling thread.

Oh thanks! I am stuck in Albany airport with time to kill...

What should i call the soap opera?

[njbill]

ONW-gate?

[DMac]

Wregget's Wrangling.

[Matnum PI]

Now posts criticizing ONW have been removed by admin. Why is this happening - how can one person be so disruptive of the Women's D1 forum and NOTHING is done about it?

Just moved: https://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=418138#p418138.

[Brownlax]

https://fanlax.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=279710#p279710 - ONW Apology form 2021

Where is the latest apology for all of the trolling?

[Lax101]

Why dont we change the subject to something more interesting. How about Final Four projections and Tewaaraton Finalist projections.

[DMac]

You can start a thread for that, should create a mild-mannered discussion where everyone is pretty much in agreement.

[EECLax]

Here we go, as a long time onlooker of this mediocre page (yes it's like a car crash hard to look away), I have seen how you all have attempted to take down CN (b/c she is selfish?, my god how is she any different than a men's player but I digress). And now you all attempt to do this this MJ (a once in a generational talent, who will be remembered as the best draw player in the game) by insinuating she quit on the MD game (granted it is well known among the lacrosse world she had Covid before), is beyond saddening for the women's sport. It's obvious the user that attempted to take down MJ has a clear motive (yes VPNs are real).

Maddie Jenner was awarded the Karen M. Sutton Workhorse Award (not that this would mean anything to any of you), but voted upon her teammates as the work horse of the team. If you know anything about her, or her family - it's that she never quits. It's obvious this forum does not recognize the talent that MJ has (thankfully others in the legitimate lacrosse world do) but stop attacking her character - she is not a quitter. It's one thing to say she doesn't move well, too big, under producing as an attacker, but at the end of the day young girls and those who played against her will remember Maddie Jenner as the most formidable opponent..and if you don't agree, why did every college recruit her and ask her to transfer. Sorry laxmom101, this is the reality. Hope your daughter makes top 5 next year.

[Can Opener]

Here we go, as a long time onlooker of this mediocre page (yes it's like a car crash hard to look away), I have seen how you all have attempted to take down CN (b/c she is selfish?, my god how is she any different than a men's player but I digress). And now you all attempt to do this this MJ (a once in a generational talent, who will be remembered as the best draw player in the game) by insinuating she quit on the MD game (granted it is well known among the lacrosse world she had Covid before), is beyond saddening for the women's sport. It's obvious the user that attempted to take down MJ has a clear motive (yes VPNs are real).

Maddie Jenner was awarded the Karen M. Sutton Workhorse Award (not that this would mean anything to any of you), but voted upon her teammates as the work horse of the team. If you know anything about her, or her family - it's that she never quits. It's obvious this forum does not recognize the talent that MJ has (thankfully others in the legitimate lacrosse world do) but stop attacking her character - she is not a quitter. It's one thing to say she doesn't move well, too big, under producing as an attacker, but at the end of the day young girls and those who played against her will remember Maddie Jenner as the most formidable opponent..and if you don't agree, why did every college recruit her and ask her to transfer. Sorry laxmom101, this is the reality. Hope your daughter makes top 5 next year.

Thoughtful post. Thanks for chiming in.

[DMac]

Here we go, as a long time onlooker of this mediocre page (yes it's like a car crash hard to look away), I have seen how you all have attempted to take down CN (b/c she is selfish?, my god how is she any different than a men's player but I digress). And now you all attempt to do this this MJ (a once in a generational talent, who will be remembered as the best draw player in the game) by insinuating she quit on the MD game (granted it is well known among the lacrosse world she had Covid before), is beyond saddening for the women's sport. It's obvious the user that attempted to take down MJ has a clear motive (yes VPNs are real).

Maddie Jenner was awarded the Karen M. Sutton Workhorse Award (not that this would mean anything to any of you), but voted upon her teammates as the work horse of the team. If you know anything about her, or her family - it's that she never quits. It's obvious this forum does not recognize the talent that MJ has (thankfully others in the legitimate lacrosse world do) but stop attacking her character - she is not a quitter. It's one thing to say she doesn't move well, too big, under producing as an attacker, but at the end of the day young girls and those who played against her will remember Maddie Jenner as the most formidable opponent..and if you don't agree, why did every college recruit her and ask her to transfer. Sorry laxmom101, this is the reality. Hope your daughter makes top 5 next year.

Welcome, EEC, you too are now a member of mediocre.
Yes, there are plenty of selfish mlaxers, I've used Tucker Dordevic as an example on these threads. I don't think there's one mediocre poster here who hasn't recognized CN as a dynamic and incredibly talented wlaxer, dare ye not find any fault in her game though.
Agree on MJ, a real force, never saw her as a quitter, also have stated I thought she was underused on the O end of the field.
You figure laxmom101 had a daughter in her 50s?

[EECLax]

Appreciate the welcome, was not lost on me I am only contributing to this party by commenting. Maybe I won't limit my replies to just the defense of a young women and add analytical notes going forward.

Yes, I take it she may have a daughter in her 50s..

[DMac]

She would have had to have HAD a daughter (gave birth) in her 50s in order for said daughter to be ranked in the top 5 next year.

[Dr. Tact]

Here we go, as a long time onlooker of this mediocre page (yes it's like a car crash hard to look away), I have seen how you all have attempted to take down CN (b/c she is selfish?, my god how is she any different than a men's player but I digress). And now you all attempt to do this this MJ (a once in a generational talent, who will be remembered as the best draw player in the game) by insinuating she quit on the MD game (granted it is well known among the lacrosse world she had Covid before), is beyond saddening for the women's sport. It's obvious the user that attempted to take down MJ has a clear motive (yes VPNs are real).

Hey, lighten up Francis....Not all of us have denigrated CN. And, since you bring up MJ, not all of us called her a quitter. In fact, many commented in a similar vein as you. I personally think she should have stayed as a FOGO, as that is where she excels (GOAT?), but that is just one redheaded Rasta man's opinion.

[MDlaxfan76]

There are rules on this forum, established by the owners and custodians. There are no rules about critiquing a player, or her character for that matter. There are rules about attacking other posters.

Do you (not saying you in particular) really need a rule to keep from attacking a college player’s character? Hell, do you need a rule to keep from “attacking” them at all?

This is where the site breaks down. It’s one thing to critique someone’s play and another to attack it. Too many times here, people start attacking because of school or kid alliances. This tends to happen when people can be keyboard bullies. I’m betting 95% of what gets said here wouldn’t be said if we were all in a room talking face to face.

I shouldn’t speak for njbill but I think that was his point in this whole matter. If someone thinks MJ shouldn’t be top 10, that’s fine, but labeling her a quitter is the problem. Anyone who plays/played sports, knows that’s the worst thing you can call an athlete. All players have bad games from time to time, by no means does that make them quitters.

I was doing a little digging by searching a certain member and then narrowing the search with the word "ring" (looking for ring chasing) and went all the way back to your very first post. You are one of the participants on this forum who made a memorable entrance with their first post. You were the other person I alluded to way back when I was calling out inconsistency in calling out others. (Not that you are the one who's been inconsistent.) This may all sound vague but I am trying to be a little bit discreet. In any event, I agreed wholeheartedly with what you said way back then and applauded you for calling out the person who was presuming to know said player's motivation. I can see in a more defined light where you're coming from now. However--I differ from you in that particular category. I'm not a lax dad and I never have been. I see women's lacrosse as a sport--pure and simple--same way I see all the other sports. I don't change how I write about sports just because a player is in college. There are pro tennis players who are younger than college students. What is ultimately at issue here--their age or their academic status? A lot of rambling here from me. Just throwing out some thoughts.

One last observation—I know there are a lot of folks on here who are parents of lacrosse players, and I don’t say with this with any snarkiness, but this is first and foremost a public forum, not a place promising deference to parents of players or players themselves. The FanLax charter specifically reads that this place is for all lacrosse fans. I think it’s unfair to try to make everybody fall in step with commentary that is approved and acceptable and inoffensive to parents.

Just catching up on all of this (busy week). Here’s the thing ONW, you don’t need to be discreet, as long as you are telling the truth. Your comment was a bit rambling so I’m not 100% sure of your angle or point. Are you suggesting I was being hypocritical? If so, point it out and if I was, I’ll address it and we’ll move on. Since you’re so hell bent on researching every single thing a person says on the forum just to try and justify what you say, then have it. What you won’t find is me crapping on a particular player. Your analogy of young tennis PROS and collegiate athletes is weak. Either way, I don’t feel the need to pick on a young athlete whether they are a pro or an amateur. If you do, then have at it and keeping hiding behind the Fanlax “charter”.

And anonymous identity, of course.

I think it's 100% fine to critique a player's specific performance or body of work, in so far as it's based on facts and supported with such. Note I said, 'critique' not "crapping on" or "pick on". That said, I don't see why anyone feels the need to demean any youngster's character, based on their play on the field.

It would require a truly exceptional situation to go to character and it would need to be based upon a heck of a lot more than a player didn't play well one day or another. I haven't seen situations that deserve it from play on the field.

I do think the word 'selfish' is often unfairly applied to players who are simply better at creating their own shot than they are in creating opportunities for others. I don't see it as a character flaw, but rather as a weakness in their game. But that doesn't mean they aren't a huge impact player, nevertheless.

[MDlaxfan76]

Again, in MHO the top 50 players in the college game should be reserved for the very, very best players. Draw specialists, who have marginal skills beyond the draw itself should not occupy a precious spot in the top 10. There are players ranked on this list in the teens and 20s who have blazing speed, can dodge, can feed, can score and can re-defend far, far better than M Jenner. Many should be ranked higher.

IL got it wrong.

Watch the games closely and you will see her quit in both the Maryland and ACC Notre Dame games on the circle when these critical games were on the line not when out of hand in the second half. One cannot simply look at the stats sheet.

Just because I played in college in the wooden crosse era (ha ha) doesn’t mean I don’t see what my eyes see on the field.

Happy holidays!

Are you guys referencing momlax24X7, who had a series of notable posts earlier this month?

When did the women stop playing with wooden sticks?
If I'm not mistaken, it was much later than the men.

I seem to recall well into the '90's, whereas the guys had pretty much all transitioned by about 1975.
Seems to me that would definitely put one who "played in college in the wooden crosse era" as potentially having a daughter now in college...