Is America a racist nation?

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youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
For YEARS I carried my brother's PBA card which when displayed to an officer along with my license/registration always got me out of a potential moving violation as a professional courtesy. So what's changed here?
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Kismet wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:34 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
For YEARS I carried my brother's PBA card which when displayed to an officer along with my license/registration always got me out of a potential moving violation as a professional courtesy. So what's changed here?
Just for the record, I posted it to juxtapose the treatment of the two subjects -- white, middle-aged, husband and wife -- with the myriad videos we see in which police engage people of color.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
There should be no professional courtesy when someone has the authority of force and ability to take someone’s freedom (handcuffs and jailing let alone the legal use of force and immunity).

This is a true zero tolerance situation.
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Kismet wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:34 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
For YEARS I carried my brother's PBA card which when displayed to an officer along with my license/registration always got me out of a potential moving violation as a professional courtesy. So what's changed here?
Time and it should stop.

And honestly I think the dude looked funky enough that they should’ve inquired as to sobriety. Not just skate without asking the question since he wa a operating a vehicle.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:23 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:34 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
For YEARS I carried my brother's PBA card which when displayed to an officer along with my license/registration always got me out of a potential moving violation as a professional courtesy. So what's changed here?
Just for the record, I posted it to juxtapose the treatment of the two subjects -- white, middle-aged, husband and wife -- with the myriad videos we see in which police engage people of color.
Why have cameras if it’s not to have accountability.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:12 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
There should be no professional courtesy when someone has the authority of force and ability to take someone’s freedom (handcuffs and jailing let alone the legal use of force and immunity).

This is a true zero tolerance situation.
Agree to disagree.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:14 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 10:12 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
There should be no professional courtesy when someone has the authority of force and ability to take someone’s freedom (handcuffs and jailing let alone the legal use of force and immunity).

This is a true zero tolerance situation.
Agree to disagree.
Ok. That’s better than some who want to argue back and forth with silly and intellectually fraudulent and/or hypocritical statements. I disagree but can respect that.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 9:23 am
Kismet wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:34 am
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:16 am
ardilla secreta wrote: Sat Dec 03, 2022 9:04 pm
Asking the officer if she’s on camera just makes it another higher level of corrupt. Alcohol no doubt involved.
How so? They were also from different jurisdictions, so she is not under her supervision. Does not seem like it mattered to her, she still flexed and used her badge, knowing she was being recorded. Maybe if camera was off she would have dressed him down and flexed in a more threatening way....but I would guess they both know there is always a professional courtesy, just like most careers pros have.
For YEARS I carried my brother's PBA card which when displayed to an officer along with my license/registration always got me out of a potential moving violation as a professional courtesy. So what's changed here?
Just for the record, I posted it to juxtapose the treatment of the two subjects -- white, middle-aged, husband and wife -- with the myriad videos we see in which police engage people of color.
I bet you never watched many episodes of COPS? Those road patrol cops on that show had a long standing tradition for being equal opportunity a-holes to quite a few of the people they pulled over. Black, white, red, yellow or rainbow flag. I learned a long time ago to keep my mouth shut anytime a cop pulled me over Yes sir and no sir or yes mam and no mam wouldn't get you out of a ticket necessarily. Screaming at the cop and demanding they tell you why they pulled you over will give the cop a negative attitude about you from the get go. What might have gotten you off with a warning can wind up with an extensive and thorough examination if you and your car.
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more police profiling at the Atlanta airport:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtYrbzVdyPY



says one commentator:


The last guy speaking too the under kover kkkops needs too stop speaking too them. That kkkop is obviously being sarcastic and trying too piss him off even more too Amp him up too the point they can arrest him. Speaking on the balled headed kkkop. If anything they don't care if you mad that they profiling...just dnt speak and get they info and file a complaint and make the video viral. That's all u can do. You getting mad at them is pointless. They can careless bout you missing your flight etc. They wanna make you mad. Be sarcastic back and say something that will piss them off if you have too. Say stuff like,how many drugs have you smuggled,how many times you put your hands on your wife,how many times you sexual touched a female during a search. Stuff like that. Get them where it triggers they anger.


Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
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Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
He should have used the qualifier “some”.
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
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PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit”
Heresy!!
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:23 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit”
Heresy!!


I would love to see proof that those racist cops deliberately target white men and white women. So far, nobody has offered any video proof.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
He should have used the qualifier “some”.
I recall a little while back, probably before first suspension, the knuckle dragged asked me what I thought the percentage of unprofessional/ill qualified and poor performing cops was and I suggested 5-15% and he hugged out like it was 1/100th of that. I stand by that, may even be a little low. Think the margin for error in that job should be infinitesimal (below 3% to start), so even 5-8% is highly problematic in my view. Seems like to a degree the adverse selection, like the future of football and the military, not to mention boxing, is pushing that up. We will see.
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Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:33 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:23 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit”
Heresy!!


I would love to see proof that those racist cops deliberately target white men and white women. So far, nobody has offered any video proof.
Here ya go

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HeOVbeh2yr0
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:42 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
He should have used the qualifier “some”.
I recall a little while back, probably before first suspension, the knuckle dragged asked me what I thought the percentage of unprofessional/ill qualified and poor performing cops was and I suggested 5-15% and he hugged out like it was 1/100th of that. I stand by that, may even be a little low. Think the margin for error in that job should be infinitesimal (below 3% to start), so even 5-8% is highly problematic in my view. Seems like to a degree the adverse selection, like the future of football and the military, not to mention boxing, is pushing that up. We will see.
5%-8% is a huge number as that 5% can go out their way to be problematic. I have a friend that is on the force for a blue collar former mill type town. He said it was open season after Trump was elected. His wife wanted him to quit because she was afraid of “friendly” fire.



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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:55 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:42 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
He should have used the qualifier “some”.
I recall a little while back, probably before first suspension, the knuckle dragged asked me what I thought the percentage of unprofessional/ill qualified and poor performing cops was and I suggested 5-15% and he hugged out like it was 1/100th of that. I stand by that, may even be a little low. Think the margin for error in that job should be infinitesimal (below 3% to start), so even 5-8% is highly problematic in my view. Seems like to a degree the adverse selection, like the future of football and the military, not to mention boxing, is pushing that up. We will see.
5%-8% is a huge number as that 5% can go out their way to be problematic. I have a friend that is on the force for a blue collar former mill type town. He said it was open season after Trump was elected. His wife wanted him to quit because she was afraid of “friendly” fire.



Lonzo was based on a real life LA cop.
Time to tax the sandman
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:02 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:55 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:42 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
He should have used the qualifier “some”.
I recall a little while back, probably before first suspension, the knuckle dragged asked me what I thought the percentage of unprofessional/ill qualified and poor performing cops was and I suggested 5-15% and he hugged out like it was 1/100th of that. I stand by that, may even be a little low. Think the margin for error in that job should be infinitesimal (below 3% to start), so even 5-8% is highly problematic in my view. Seems like to a degree the adverse selection, like the future of football and the military, not to mention boxing, is pushing that up. We will see.
5%-8% is a huge number as that 5% can go out their way to be problematic. I have a friend that is on the force for a blue collar former mill type town. He said it was open season after Trump was elected. His wife wanted him to quit because she was afraid of “friendly” fire.



Lonzo was based on a real life LA cop.
Time to tax the sandman
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 4:43 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:33 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:23 pm
PizzaSnake wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:15 pm
youthathletics wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:03 pm
Brooklyn wrote: Sun Dec 04, 2022 12:44 pm Is there any doubt that the cops are racist?
Can you prove they are?
“Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit”
Heresy!!


I would love to see proof that those racist cops deliberately target white men and white women. So far, nobody has offered any video proof.
Here ya go

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HeOVbeh2yr0



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