Landmark Conference 2023

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QuickRake
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https://athletics.scranton.edu/sports/m ... 1201hdixao

Crapanzano named Scranton's captain for the upcoming season, suppose Albany will have to wait until the fall despite any strong sources' claims. Makes a lot of sense considering the kid is going to get his degree in the spring.
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QuickRake wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:39 pm https://athletics.scranton.edu/sports/m ... 1201hdixao

Crapanzano named Scranton's captain for the upcoming season, suppose Albany will have to wait until the fall despite any strong sources' claims. Makes a lot of sense considering the kid is going to get his degree in the spring.
Yup, I am not sure why I thought this when my source just reconfirmed that it was for next fall. Sorry about that. Still excited for him as I know that he has always liked Albany's style of play.
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Interesting interview with Christopher Crapanzano.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLYAnwfkbXY
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QuickRake wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:39 pm https://athletics.scranton.edu/sports/m ... 1201hdixao

Crapanzano named Scranton's captain for the upcoming season, suppose Albany will have to wait until the fall despite any strong sources' claims. Makes a lot of sense considering the kid is going to get his degree in the spring.
Wonder if Crapanzano will be looking ahead to the bright lights at Albany this season rather than focusing on the task at hand. May be detrimental to the Royals...
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bulldodge97 wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 4:25 pm
QuickRake wrote: Thu Dec 01, 2022 1:39 pm https://athletics.scranton.edu/sports/m ... 1201hdixao

Crapanzano named Scranton's captain for the upcoming season, suppose Albany will have to wait until the fall despite any strong sources' claims. Makes a lot of sense considering the kid is going to get his degree in the spring.
Wonder if Crapanzano will be looking ahead to the bright lights at Albany this season rather than focusing on the task at hand. May be detrimental to the Royals...
It’s the landmark not the NESCAC, he’ll be fine.
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Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
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Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
The last time ETown played a NESCAC team it was 10-1 at the end of the first qtr.
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Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
Massey Composite had E-town and Catholic slightly favored against Trinity (6-8), Colby (6-7), and Bates (1-12), and medium to heavy dogs against the rest of the NESCAC. It's very easy to underestimate how massive the variation in competition level across D3 lacrosse.
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Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
No shot.
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Hey just my hot take. That E-Town game mentioned before was to eventual national finalist Amherst and was an entire recruiting class cycle ago. I’ll Admit I am wrong and should’ve respected more teams but if you take last years teams I believe Catholic and E-town could beat Bates, Trin, Colby, Conn and Hamilton. Williams, Middlebury and Wesleyan I could see being fairly even or at least an exciting match for most of the game versus Catholic and then Tufts, Bowdoin and Amherst would all most likely be large margin of victory. Just think there’s a lot of talent out in D3 all around
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River Donkey wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 9:36 pm
Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
No shot.
"No shot" What a joke, Catholic and Etown both obliterate the lower tier NESCACs and give a game to the rest with the exception of Tufts, Bowdoin, and Amherst. Landmark trending upwards
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Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
I think that Catholic and E-town struggle with the top half of the NESCAC Wesleyan is terrific and they were 5th in the league last year. I just think that the level of competition is different as I believe that if Bates was in the Landmark they would have been in the top half of the conference and possibly top 3

I like the top three schools in the Landmark but like many conferences, it is pretty top heavy.
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The original thought was that Crapanzano may find difficultly focusing on the current season, while looking forward to his DI future. I don’t think that will be the case, shy of some “friendly ribbing” should he miss the goal with a shot or get stripped- like “sup DI?” sort of stuff.

This spiraled into conference comparisons because some simply cannot miss an opportunity to look down their nose at others. A slight that had the desired effect, and yielded a defensive response.

The quality of conference in which he plays will have minuscule-to-no effect on whether his DI aspirations are a hinderance to his play….
MAC - The SEC of DIII lacrosse.
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Asgot wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:29 am
Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
I think that Catholic and E-town struggle with the top half of the NESCAC Wesleyan is terrific and they were 5th in the league last year. I just think that the level of competition is different as I believe that if Bates was in the Landmark they would have been in the top half of the conference and possibly top 3

I like the top three schools in the Landmark but like many conferences, it is pretty top heavy.
Top half yes, but that's not saying a whole ton. Basically saying they're better than Goucher, Juniata, Moravian, Susqy, Drew, nice. Top 2 or 3, nah. I think Catholic and Etown and even Scranton handle teams in the bottom half of the NESCAC (Bates, Conn, Colby, Hamilton, and give games to Middlebury and Williams). Bates struggled against ranked opponents last year, posting double digit losses in just about every one, while Catholic and Etown both posted respectable performances and wins against teams like Dickinson, F and M, Salisbury, CNU, Colo Coll, W and L. Catholic 18 Bates 11, Etown 14 Bates 9.
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Ok, so we are saying the top 3 in the Landmark can beat the last team in the NESCAC?? No argument here, but is that something to be proud of?
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River Donkey wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:41 am Ok, so we are saying the top 3 in the Landmark can beat the last team in the NESCAC?? No argument here, but is that something to be proud of?
"I think Catholic and Etown and even Scranton handle teams in the bottom half of the NESCAC (Bates, Conn, Colby, Hamilton, and give games to Middlebury and Williams)". Read the whole post, just throwing Bates out there since we were on that topic. Saying that the Landmark teams have no shot at NESCAC teams as you previously mentioned, River Donkey, is just wrong.
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beachbum1334 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:24 am
Asgot wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:29 am
Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
I think that Catholic and E-town struggle with the top half of the NESCAC Wesleyan is terrific and they were 5th in the league last year. I just think that the level of competition is different as I believe that if Bates was in the Landmark they would have been in the top half of the conference and possibly top 3

I like the top three schools in the Landmark but like many conferences, it is pretty top heavy.
Top half yes, but that's not saying a whole ton. Basically saying they're better than Goucher, Juniata, Moravian, Susqy, Drew, nice. Top 2 or 3, nah. I think Catholic and Etown and even Scranton handle teams in the bottom half of the NESCAC (Bates, Conn, Colby, Hamilton, and give games to Middlebury and Williams). Bates struggled against ranked opponents last year, posting double digit losses in just about every one, while Catholic and Etown both posted respectable performances and wins against teams like Dickinson, F and M, Salisbury, CNU, Colo Coll, W and L. Catholic 18 Bates 11, Etown 14 Bates 9.
A quick look shows that both Bates and E-Town lost to York by 11 and it looks like that is the only comparable match up. but you are probably right that the worst team in the NESCAC would lose by a couple to the top teams in the Landmark.
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Yea, you take any NESCAC team and throw them in our conference they’ll be in the top 3 but to say our top teams can’t compete with their conference doesn’t really make sense. Also Sax is a NESCAC guy and watching Catholics games with NESCAC ones they play a very similar agenda. To count them out isn’t right. E-Town as well and Scranton could scrap with the basement dwellers of the NESCAC
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Asgot wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:10 am
beachbum1334 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:24 am
Asgot wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:29 am
Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
I think that Catholic and E-town struggle with the top half of the NESCAC Wesleyan is terrific and they were 5th in the league last year. I just think that the level of competition is different as I believe that if Bates was in the Landmark they would have been in the top half of the conference and possibly top 3

I like the top three schools in the Landmark but like many conferences, it is pretty top heavy.
Top half yes, but that's not saying a whole ton. Basically saying they're better than Goucher, Juniata, Moravian, Susqy, Drew, nice. Top 2 or 3, nah. I think Catholic and Etown and even Scranton handle teams in the bottom half of the NESCAC (Bates, Conn, Colby, Hamilton, and give games to Middlebury and Williams). Bates struggled against ranked opponents last year, posting double digit losses in just about every one, while Catholic and Etown both posted respectable performances and wins against teams like Dickinson, F and M, Salisbury, CNU, Colo Coll, W and L. Catholic 18 Bates 11, Etown 14 Bates 9.
A quick look shows that both Bates and E-Town lost to York by 11 and it looks like that is the only comparable match up. but you are probably right that the worst team in the NESCAC would lose by a couple to the top teams in the Landmark.
So we’re gonna go by comparable matchups/win loss margin, sure we can play that game. Catholic fell to CNU by 10, Wesleyan fell to CNU by 13. So technically on paper Catholic beats Wesleyan. They’re not the worst team in the Nescac. This is why you play the game!!! Catholic and etown beat the low tier NESCACS and play with/ beat the mid tiers. Would love to see some of those games on the landmark OOCs. Would be fun games to watch.
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Asgot wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 10:10 am
beachbum1334 wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 9:24 am
Asgot wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 8:29 am
Tightyrighty wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:51 pm Think Catholic and maybe E-Town could give it to a majority of the NESCAC. Barring Tufts and probably Bowdoin think those are all pretty awesome games
I think that Catholic and E-town struggle with the top half of the NESCAC Wesleyan is terrific and they were 5th in the league last year. I just think that the level of competition is different as I believe that if Bates was in the Landmark they would have been in the top half of the conference and possibly top 3

I like the top three schools in the Landmark but like many conferences, it is pretty top heavy.
Top half yes, but that's not saying a whole ton. Basically saying they're better than Goucher, Juniata, Moravian, Susqy, Drew, nice. Top 2 or 3, nah. I think Catholic and Etown and even Scranton handle teams in the bottom half of the NESCAC (Bates, Conn, Colby, Hamilton, and give games to Middlebury and Williams). Bates struggled against ranked opponents last year, posting double digit losses in just about every one, while Catholic and Etown both posted respectable performances and wins against teams like Dickinson, F and M, Salisbury, CNU, Colo Coll, W and L. Catholic 18 Bates 11, Etown 14 Bates 9.
A quick look shows that both Bates and E-Town lost to York by 11 and it looks like that is the only comparable match up. but you are probably right that the worst team in the NESCAC would lose by a couple to the top teams in the Landmark.
I do not know how much of a productive conversation this is. At the end of the day this is division III lacrosse and the difference in talent is not as large as people may think. I think on any given day a team like Catholic, Scranton or Etown could run with a top 25 team in the country! If you do not believe that then please explain these games last year.

Scranton against Cortland and RPI
ETOWN against F&M (Besides Q1) and Dickinson
Catholic against Salisbury

These teams all held their own and you could argue that some of the teams mentioned above we better than some mid tier NESCAC last year mentioned above. The game has changed there is talent scattered across DIII. It truly comes down to who has the better coach, culture and game preparation! I hope to see some upsets this year!

Early perdiction I could see Scranton getting the win over Ithaca this year. As well as Catholic beating W&L again and F&M as well!
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