Progressive Ideology

[6ftstick]

Whatever happened to the Governor in Black Face of Virginia who told us how he'd keep a newborn comfortable till he and the mother decided to kill it. And his alleged serial rapist Lt Governor. Seems they've slipped under the media radar. Curious.

[OCanada]

Tripe

[OCanada]

It is in everyone’s best interest to find a way to deal with illegal immigrants in a fair and just way. Reagan did it with pardons in I think 1984.

The damage to the economy of exporting that many would be staggering. So too would jailing people that hired them.

The fact is the USA needs immigrants and the overwhelming majority will be productive. So too do many countries in Europe and they know it. For that matter so does Trump. He has hired them fur decades.

There is some point between zero and open borders that is optimal. There was a deal on immigration reached in the Congress that was scuttled by the freedom caucus et al.

If economic self interest is going to rank lower than tribalism on the scale of what matters the long range growth prospects and economic well being of the country will suffer. There has already been measurable damage.

[MDlaxfan76]

It's hard to stay civil when someone posts such tripe. But this sort of mindless, ignorant trope is what's to be expected from someone that fully supports the useless sack of humanity that is our current DOPUS, speaking of a "total lack of policy".

Meanwhile, back in civil society, Mayor Pete displays tendencies towards Storytelling First. Policy Details Later.

Before Trumpists get a clue, their man may well be swamped by the simmering dislike most Americans feel for him and his "style".

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Democrats VOTED for those things and have voiced those exact sentiments. Once again RUN ON THOSE.

baloney.

I'd say that you (6ft) know it's baloney, but maybe you really don't?

I don't understand why folks feel the need to grossly exaggerate the most extreme to the general.

I'm sure that goes both ways, but I see much more of this in the current era coming from the hard right, which has rallied to support Trump, than I do from the left. Not that it's nonexistent for the left to exaggerate about the right, but the degree of downright hate and exaggeration of the Dems is off the charts.

To Mayor Pete and this whole MAGA stuff, I tend to agree that the way many Trumpists view MAGA is incredibly ignorant of the reality of history. Sure, there are absolutely wonderful aspects of America's journey, much to celebrate and be 'proud of' as an American. Principles and values that are very important to protect and continue. Indeed, worthy of dying for, if necessary.

But what is 'great' about America is not its past.
It is not 'again,' as if it is not 'great' today.

Indeed, there's much about America's history that is certainly not 'great', particularly from the point of view of lots and lots of Americans. Our country has made all sorts of mistakes. It is, and has been, far from perfect.

And that's ok. The struggle is for a 'more perfect union'.
That struggle is what makes America "great".
Not a return to some former era.

[youthathletics]

Even Cher now gets it, yes...friggen Cher. Are you pro-progressives gonna let share sound smarter than some of you?

@cher
Apr 14
I Understand Helping struggling Immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can’t Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More

[seacoaster]

Love you calling on Cher as an exemplar of almost anything YA. Awesome. Love you man.

[jhu72]

Even Cher now gets it, yes...friggen Cher. Are you pro-progressives gonna let share sound smarter than some of you?

@cher
Apr 14
I Understand Helping struggling Immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can’t Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More

Ya might wanna check your spelling there son.

[youthathletics]

The point seacoaster, was that even Cher “the classic leftists, entertainer” is coming around to see the light. Meaning, others will likely follow. I was NOT quoting her for insightful brilliance. Love you too!

Toucé JHU72.

See how she changed her tune from 9/17, when she was ready with open arms. https://twitter.com/michaelmalice/statu ... 84864?s=21

Carry on.

[cradleandshoot]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 187cdb5ea5 I am sure knowing our usual FLP suspects on this forum The folks that run San Francisco should be handing out toilet paper, poopie bags and for crying out loud some hand sanitizer too.

[Typical Lax Dad]

Even Cher now gets it, yes...friggen Cher. Are you pro-progressives gonna let share sound smarter than some of you?

@cher
Apr 14
I Understand Helping struggling Immigrants,but MY CITY (Los Angeles) ISNT TAKING CARE OF ITS OWN.WHAT ABOUT THE 50,000+Citizens WHO LIVE ON THE STREETS.PPL WHO LIVE BELOW POVERTY LINE,& HUNGRY? If My State Can’t Take Care of Its Own(Many Are VETS)How Can it Take Care Of More

More policy via Twitter.

[youthathletics]

Yep. And the messenger is Cher....this time.

[get it to x]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamandrze ... 187cdb5ea5 I am sure knowing our usual FLP suspects on this forum The folks that run San Francisco should be handing out toilet paper, poopie bags and for crying out loud some hand sanitizer too.

Poopie bags would be against the law unless they are made of paper.

[6ftstick]

It's hard to stay civil when someone posts such tripe. But this sort of mindless, ignorant trope is what's to be expected from someone that fully supports the useless sack of humanity that is our current DOPUS, speaking of a "total lack of policy".

Meanwhile, back in civil society, Mayor Pete displays tendencies towards Storytelling First. Policy Details Later.

Before Trumpists get a clue, their man may well be swamped by the simmering dislike most Americans feel for him and his "style".

..

Democrats VOTED for those things and have voiced those exact sentiments. Once again RUN ON THOSE.

baloney.

I'd say that you (6ft) know it's baloney, but maybe you really don't?

I don't understand why folks feel the need to grossly exaggerate the most extreme to the general.

I'm sure that goes both ways, but I see much more of this in the current era coming from the hard right, which has rallied to support Trump, than I do from the left. Not that it's nonexistent for the left to exaggerate about the right, but the degree of downright hate and exaggeration of the Dems is off the charts.

To Mayor Pete and this whole MAGA stuff, I tend to agree that the way many Trumpists view MAGA is incredibly ignorant of the reality of history. Sure, there are absolutely wonderful aspects of America's journey, much to celebrate and be 'proud of' as an American. Principles and values that are very important to protect and continue. Indeed, worthy of dying for, if necessary.

But what is 'great' about America is not its past.
It is not 'again,' as if it is not 'great' today.

Indeed, there's much about America's history that is certainly not 'great', particularly from the point of view of lots and lots of Americans. Our country has made all sorts of mistakes. It is, and has been, far from perfect.

And that's ok. The struggle is for a 'more perfect union'.
That struggle is what makes America "great".
Not a return to some former era.

You are paying attention aren't you.

Democrat led State legislators are voting to allow abortion up to and including after birth. They actually cheer when they do so.

Democrats in the US House of representatives refused to vote to protect the BORN child.

The democrat governor of Virginia was quickly swept under the rug for voicing his version of infanticide. (He's being protected by the MSM)

All the democrat front runners for 2020 are giving away free healthcare and free education and free (insert your pet project here)

Mayor Pete just said in his presidential announcement that America was NEVER great. As did Beto and AOC et al.No splitting hairs about what was admirable and what was not. Just Never great. H*ll we have liberal posters on this forum who in their own arrogance denegrate the countries founders.

The dem front runner Bernie Sanders maligns capitalism while earning millions and owning three homes. (Isn't that two to many for a socialist)

Can you deny democrats are for Open borders? Sanctuary cities—heard of those? NY state just allocated 27 MILLION tuition assistance for illegal immigrants.

And Don't forget congressional democrats non-vote on antisemitism.

ALL facts. Not baloney.

[dislaxxic]

Lets cher a little more about what share had to say and the republic party response...

A chered post from the conservative Washington Examiner called Republics shouldn't rub Share's immigration flip-flop in her face

"It's easy to laugh at the anti-Trump celebrity in the anti-Trump city getting "owned" by Trump's immigration trick. But there's a more substantive point to be derived from this if conservatives are willing to look for something beyond Twitter lib-owning. Her argument — why can't we take better care of our citizens before we try to take care of more people? — is one conservatives ought to sincerely embrace and advance.

Before the city commits to taking care of more people, she said Los Angeles should be sure it can manage the responsibilities it already has. Announcing Los Angeles’ decision to officially become a sanctuary city, City Councilman Gilbert Cedillo said it would be a sanctuary “for all those who have been under attack in this Trump era.” That’s a tall order, one that will be hard to fill if the city can’t even take care of the homeless on Skid Row."

"Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves"... Happy to Cher...

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[6ftstick]

Lets cher a little more about what share had to say and the republic party response...

A chered post from the conservative Washington Examiner called Republics shouldn't rub Share's immigration flip-flop in her face

"It's easy to laugh at the anti-Trump celebrity in the anti-Trump city getting "owned" by Trump's immigration trick. But there's a more substantive point to be derived from this if conservatives are willing to look for something beyond Twitter lib-owning. Her argument — why can't we take better care of our citizens before we try to take care of more people? — is one conservatives ought to sincerely embrace and advance.

Before the city commits to taking care of more people, she said Los Angeles should be sure it can manage the responsibilities it already has. Announcing Los Angeles’ decision to officially become a sanctuary city, City Councilman Gilbert Cedillo said it would be a sanctuary “for all those who have been under attack in this Trump era.” That’s a tall order, one that will be hard to fill if the city can’t even take care of the homeless on Skid Row."

"Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves"... Happy to Cher...

..

Flip flop!

[dislaxxic]

Shallow, uninformed opinion of a "policy" of this DOPUS.

He wouldn't know a genuine policy if it snuck up and snatched the cheeseburger outta his gaping maw...

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[MDlaxfan76]

It's hard to stay civil when someone posts such tripe. But this sort of mindless, ignorant trope is what's to be expected from someone that fully supports the useless sack of humanity that is our current DOPUS, speaking of a "total lack of policy".

Meanwhile, back in civil society, Mayor Pete displays tendencies towards Storytelling First. Policy Details Later.

Before Trumpists get a clue, their man may well be swamped by the simmering dislike most Americans feel for him and his "style".

..

Democrats VOTED for those things and have voiced those exact sentiments. Once again RUN ON THOSE.

baloney.

I'd say that you (6ft) know it's baloney, but maybe you really don't?

I don't understand why folks feel the need to grossly exaggerate the most extreme to the general.

I'm sure that goes both ways, but I see much more of this in the current era coming from the hard right, which has rallied to support Trump, than I do from the left. Not that it's nonexistent for the left to exaggerate about the right, but the degree of downright hate and exaggeration of the Dems is off the charts.

To Mayor Pete and this whole MAGA stuff, I tend to agree that the way many Trumpists view MAGA is incredibly ignorant of the reality of history. Sure, there are absolutely wonderful aspects of America's journey, much to celebrate and be 'proud of' as an American. Principles and values that are very important to protect and continue. Indeed, worthy of dying for, if necessary.

But what is 'great' about America is not its past.
It is not 'again,' as if it is not 'great' today.

Indeed, there's much about America's history that is certainly not 'great', particularly from the point of view of lots and lots of Americans. Our country has made all sorts of mistakes. It is, and has been, far from perfect.

And that's ok. The struggle is for a 'more perfect union'.
That struggle is what makes America "great".
Not a return to some former era.

You are paying attention aren't you.

Democrat led State legislators are voting to allow abortion up to and including after birth. They actually cheer when they do so.

Democrats in the US House of representatives refused to vote to protect the BORN child.

The democrat governor of Virginia was quickly swept under the rug for voicing his version of infanticide. (He's being protected by the MSM)

All the democrat front runners for 2020 are giving away free healthcare and free education and free (insert your pet project here)

Mayor Pete just said in his presidential announcement that America was NEVER great. As did Beto and AOC et al.No splitting hairs about what was admirable and what was not. Just Never great. H*ll we have liberal posters on this forum who in their own arrogance denegrate the countries founders.

The dem front runner Bernie Sanders maligns capitalism while earning millions and owning three homes. (Isn't that two to many for a socialist)

Can you deny democrats are for Open borders? Sanctuary cities—heard of those? NY state just allocated 27 MILLION tuition assistance for illegal immigrants.

And Don't forget congressional democrats non-vote on antisemitism.

ALL facts. Not baloney.

Was that actually supposed to be responsive to what I wrote?
Yup, you really don't understand. Or don't want to.

[6ftstick]

It's hard to stay civil when someone posts such tripe. But this sort of mindless, ignorant trope is what's to be expected from someone that fully supports the useless sack of humanity that is our current DOPUS, speaking of a "total lack of policy".

Meanwhile, back in civil society, Mayor Pete displays tendencies towards Storytelling First. Policy Details Later.

Before Trumpists get a clue, their man may well be swamped by the simmering dislike most Americans feel for him and his "style".

..

Democrats VOTED for those things and have voiced those exact sentiments. Once again RUN ON THOSE.

baloney.

I'd say that you (6ft) know it's baloney, but maybe you really don't?

I don't understand why folks feel the need to grossly exaggerate the most extreme to the general.

I'm sure that goes both ways, but I see much more of this in the current era coming from the hard right, which has rallied to support Trump, than I do from the left. Not that it's nonexistent for the left to exaggerate about the right, but the degree of downright hate and exaggeration of the Dems is off the charts.

To Mayor Pete and this whole MAGA stuff, I tend to agree that the way many Trumpists view MAGA is incredibly ignorant of the reality of history. Sure, there are absolutely wonderful aspects of America's journey, much to celebrate and be 'proud of' as an American. Principles and values that are very important to protect and continue. Indeed, worthy of dying for, if necessary.

But what is 'great' about America is not its past.
It is not 'again,' as if it is not 'great' today.

Indeed, there's much about America's history that is certainly not 'great', particularly from the point of view of lots and lots of Americans. Our country has made all sorts of mistakes. It is, and has been, far from perfect.

And that's ok. The struggle is for a 'more perfect union'.
That struggle is what makes America "great".
Not a return to some former era.

You are paying attention aren't you.

Democrat led State legislators are voting to allow abortion up to and including after birth. They actually cheer when they do so.

Democrats in the US House of representatives refused to vote to protect the BORN child.

The democrat governor of Virginia was quickly swept under the rug for voicing his version of infanticide. (He's being protected by the MSM)

All the democrat front runners for 2020 are giving away free healthcare and free education and free (insert your pet project here)

Mayor Pete just said in his presidential announcement that America was NEVER great. As did Beto and AOC et al.No splitting hairs about what was admirable and what was not. Just Never great. H*ll we have liberal posters on this forum who in their own arrogance denegrate the countries founders.

The dem front runner Bernie Sanders maligns capitalism while earning millions and owning three homes. (Isn't that two to many for a socialist)

Can you deny democrats are for Open borders? Sanctuary cities—heard of those? NY state just allocated 27 MILLION tuition assistance for illegal immigrants.

And Don't forget congressional democrats non-vote on antisemitism.

ALL facts. Not baloney.

Was that actually supposed to be responsive to what I wrote?
Yup, you really don't understand. Or don't want to.

Please. My original post listed planks in the dem platform for 2020. You said baloney

So I relisted them. I think sir YOU don't understand.

[dislaxxic]

"Planks in the Dem platform" as viewed thru the lens of a Trump Base Voter.

So helpful.

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[MDlaxfan76]

It's hard to stay civil when someone posts such tripe. But this sort of mindless, ignorant trope is what's to be expected from someone that fully supports the useless sack of humanity that is our current DOPUS, speaking of a "total lack of policy".

Meanwhile, back in civil society, Mayor Pete displays tendencies towards Storytelling First. Policy Details Later.

Before Trumpists get a clue, their man may well be swamped by the simmering dislike most Americans feel for him and his "style".

..

Democrats VOTED for those things and have voiced those exact sentiments. Once again RUN ON THOSE.

baloney.

I'd say that you (6ft) know it's baloney, but maybe you really don't?

I don't understand why folks feel the need to grossly exaggerate the most extreme to the general.

I'm sure that goes both ways, but I see much more of this in the current era coming from the hard right, which has rallied to support Trump, than I do from the left. Not that it's nonexistent for the left to exaggerate about the right, but the degree of downright hate and exaggeration of the Dems is off the charts.

To Mayor Pete and this whole MAGA stuff, I tend to agree that the way many Trumpists view MAGA is incredibly ignorant of the reality of history. Sure, there are absolutely wonderful aspects of America's journey, much to celebrate and be 'proud of' as an American. Principles and values that are very important to protect and continue. Indeed, worthy of dying for, if necessary.

But what is 'great' about America is not its past.
It is not 'again,' as if it is not 'great' today.

Indeed, there's much about America's history that is certainly not 'great', particularly from the point of view of lots and lots of Americans. Our country has made all sorts of mistakes. It is, and has been, far from perfect.

And that's ok. The struggle is for a 'more perfect union'.
That struggle is what makes America "great".
Not a return to some former era.

You are paying attention aren't you.

Democrat led State legislators are voting to allow abortion up to and including after birth. They actually cheer when they do so.

Democrats in the US House of representatives refused to vote to protect the BORN child.

The democrat governor of Virginia was quickly swept under the rug for voicing his version of infanticide. (He's being protected by the MSM)

All the democrat front runners for 2020 are giving away free healthcare and free education and free (insert your pet project here)

Mayor Pete just said in his presidential announcement that America was NEVER great. As did Beto and AOC et al.No splitting hairs about what was admirable and what was not. Just Never great. H*ll we have liberal posters on this forum who in their own arrogance denegrate the countries founders.

The dem front runner Bernie Sanders maligns capitalism while earning millions and owning three homes. (Isn't that two to many for a socialist)

Can you deny democrats are for Open borders? Sanctuary cities—heard of those? NY state just allocated 27 MILLION tuition assistance for illegal immigrants.

And Don't forget congressional democrats non-vote on antisemitism.

ALL facts. Not baloney.

Was that actually supposed to be responsive to what I wrote?
Yup, you really don't understand. Or don't want to.

Please. My original post listed planks in the dem platform for 2020. You said baloney

So I relisted them. I think sir YOU don't understand.

As I said, baloney. Those are neither the planks in the nonexistent 2020 Dem platform, nor were they in 2016...which actually exists.

You exaggerate grossly, but maybe you're just parroting right wing media and blogosphere.

And you specifically went after Mayor Pete's statement with outrage. And repeat that baloney again in your list.

I responded to that, because I actually find this particular attack to be interesting.

You're not responding to what I explained. Nope, you prefer the gross exaggeration.