2024

[MDlaxfan76]

I'm sure you're not a Liz Cheney fan either.

I'll vote for Liz if she wins the GOP nomination.

Aren't you a GOP primary voter???

[NattyBohChamps04]

Thanks to his close win in the AZ Senate race, Mark Kelly has attained national recognition & prominence, after going largely unnoticed during his initial 2 year Senate term.

Already known for his (& his twin brother's) astronaut service, it's interesting that he chose to wear his Pax River Navy Test Pilot vintage flight jacket in nearly all his campaign appearances covered by national media.

With Top Gun : Maverick still on movie screens, the patches on his Navy flight jacket make it a provocative campaign wardrobe choice over his NASA Astronaut blue flight jacket.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/kelly ... 66937.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-twi ... paceflight

As the Dems search for younger, more mentally agile, potential 2024 successors to Biden, they'd be wise to consider & promote Kelly.
He's still a blank sheet who could potentially appeal to voters of both parties, ...if promoted rationally.

He's an extremely solid senator, great candidate and upstanding person. Son of two cops. Decorated combat-tested Naval aviator. Astronaut. Seems to be moderate to center-right.

Would you vote for him over DeSantis or Trump?

[old salt]

I'm sure you're not a Liz Cheney fan either.

I'll vote for Liz if she wins the GOP nomination.

Aren't you a GOP primary voter???

Yes. I don't know if Liz would be my first choice, even if she runs. I'd have to see who the other candidates are.
The only thing I'm sure of is that I will never vote for Trump. I never have.

[old salt]

Thanks to his close win in the AZ Senate race, Mark Kelly has attained national recognition & prominence, after going largely unnoticed during his initial 2 year Senate term.

Already known for his (& his twin brother's) astronaut service, it's interesting that he chose to wear his Pax River Navy Test Pilot vintage flight jacket in nearly all his campaign appearances covered by national media.

With Top Gun : Maverick still on movie screens, the patches on his Navy flight jacket make it a provocative campaign wardrobe choice over his NASA Astronaut blue flight jacket.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/kelly ... 66937.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-twi ... paceflight

As the Dems search for younger, more mentally agile, potential 2024 successors to Biden, they'd be wise to consider & promote Kelly.
He's still a blank sheet who could potentially appeal to voters of both parties, ...if promoted rationally.

He's an extremely solid senator, great candidate and upstanding person. Son of two cops. Decorated combat-tested Naval aviator. Astronaut. Seems to be moderate to center-right.

Would you vote for him over DeSantis or Trump?

Yes -- happily, & FTR -- I've never voted for Trump & never will.

[old salt]

Hogan making the rounds, post Red Ripple...

Red Ripple ? That was my beverage of choice at Dirty Joe's on Pensacola Beach.

http://oldartguy.com/An_Ode_to_Ripple.html

[NattyBohChamps04]

Thanks to his close win in the AZ Senate race, Mark Kelly has attained national recognition & prominence, after going largely unnoticed during his initial 2 year Senate term.

Already known for his (& his twin brother's) astronaut service, it's interesting that he chose to wear his Pax River Navy Test Pilot vintage flight jacket in nearly all his campaign appearances covered by national media.

With Top Gun : Maverick still on movie screens, the patches on his Navy flight jacket make it a provocative campaign wardrobe choice over his NASA Astronaut blue flight jacket.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/kelly ... 66937.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-twi ... paceflight

As the Dems search for younger, more mentally agile, potential 2024 successors to Biden, they'd be wise to consider & promote Kelly.
He's still a blank sheet who could potentially appeal to voters of both parties, ...if promoted rationally.

He's an extremely solid senator, great candidate and upstanding person. Son of two cops. Decorated combat-tested Naval aviator. Astronaut. Seems to be moderate to center-right.

Would you vote for him over DeSantis or Trump?

Yes -- happily, & FTR -- I've never voted for Trump & never will.

Dem's aren't the brightest in who they let ascend the throne most years, so you probably won't get your chance unfortunately. I'd like to be proud of my president someday again...

[youthathletics]

Hogan making the rounds, post Red Ripple...

Red Ripple ? That was my beverage of choice at Dirty Joe's on Pensacola Beach.

http://oldartguy.com/An_Ode_to_Ripple.html

Had a few hangovers from that stuff, along with MD20/20 & Cisco.

[a fan]

Thanks to his close win in the AZ Senate race, Mark Kelly has attained national recognition & prominence, after going largely unnoticed during his initial 2 year Senate term.

Already known for his (& his twin brother's) astronaut service, it's interesting that he chose to wear his Pax River Navy Test Pilot vintage flight jacket in nearly all his campaign appearances covered by national media.

With Top Gun : Maverick still on movie screens, the patches on his Navy flight jacket make it a provocative campaign wardrobe choice over his NASA Astronaut blue flight jacket.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/kelly ... 66937.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-twi ... paceflight

As the Dems search for younger, more mentally agile, potential 2024 successors to Biden, they'd be wise to consider & promote Kelly.
He's still a blank sheet who could potentially appeal to voters of both parties, ...if promoted rationally.

He's an extremely solid senator, great candidate and upstanding person. Son of two cops. Decorated combat-tested Naval aviator. Astronaut. Seems to be moderate to center-right.

Would you vote for him over DeSantis or Trump?

Yes -- happily, & FTR -- I've never voted for Trump & never will.

Dem's aren't the brightest in who they let ascend the throne most years, so you probably won't get your chance unfortunately. I'd like to be proud of my president someday again...

+100

[old salt]

Hogan making the rounds, post Red Ripple...

Red Ripple ? That was my beverage of choice at Dirty Joe's on Pensacola Beach.

http://oldartguy.com/An_Ode_to_Ripple.html

Had a few hangovers from that stuff, along with MD20/20 & Cisco.

The young ladies of Pensacola were very fond of it.

[Farfromgeneva]

Hogan making the rounds, post Red Ripple...

Red Ripple ? That was my beverage of choice at Dirty Joe's on Pensacola Beach.

http://oldartguy.com/An_Ode_to_Ripple.html

Had a few hangovers from that stuff, along with MD20/20 & Cisco.

Let me see that thonggg, thong thong tha tha thonggg..

[Seacoaster(1)]

The lede on NPR:

Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power, has filed to run for president again in 2024.

[old salt]

The lede on NPR:

Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power, has filed to run for president again in 2024.

That unbiased objective journalism merits 3 tote bags. Send in your contribution.

Your move Merrick Garland.

[NattyBohChamps04]

The lede on NPR:

Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep himself in power, has filed to run for president again in 2024.

That unbiased objective journalism merits 3 tote bags. Send in your contribution.

Your move Merrick Garland.

Everything they said is true to be fair...

[Farfromgeneva]

I'm sure you're not a Liz Cheney fan either.

I'll vote for Liz if she wins the GOP nomination.

Aren't you a GOP primary voter???

Why you gotta twist his words with, like, detail?

[Farfromgeneva]

Hogan making the rounds, post Red Ripple...

Red Ripple ? That was my beverage of choice at Dirty Joe's on Pensacola Beach.

http://oldartguy.com/An_Ode_to_Ripple.html

Go with this. You’ll be happier.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_'n'_Stormy

[Farfromgeneva]

Thanks to his close win in the AZ Senate race, Mark Kelly has attained national recognition & prominence, after going largely unnoticed during his initial 2 year Senate term.

Already known for his (& his twin brother's) astronaut service, it's interesting that he chose to wear his Pax River Navy Test Pilot vintage flight jacket in nearly all his campaign appearances covered by national media.

With Top Gun : Maverick still on movie screens, the patches on his Navy flight jacket make it a provocative campaign wardrobe choice over his NASA Astronaut blue flight jacket.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/kelly ... 66937.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-twi ... paceflight

As the Dems search for younger, more mentally agile, potential 2024 successors to Biden, they'd be wise to consider & promote Kelly.
He's still a blank sheet who could potentially appeal to voters of both parties, ...if promoted rationally.

He's an extremely solid senator, great candidate and upstanding person. Son of two cops. Decorated combat-tested Naval aviator. Astronaut. Seems to be moderate to center-right.

Would you vote for him over DeSantis or Trump?

Yes -- happily, & FTR -- I've never voted for Trump & never will.

Dem's aren't the brightest in who they let ascend the throne most years, so you probably won't get your chance unfortunately. I'd like to be proud of my president someday again...

When was that last the case for you?

Sadly, George HW (Senior) Bush might’ve been the best in my lifetime. I was a single digit aged for Reagan but time hasn’t been his friend and probably fairly though it seems like there’s some piling on with respect to his legacy. In the last 50-75yrs there’s been enough volatility over any stretch where if you’re there 8yrs at the top it’s hard to avoid any issues yet I’m not going to sh*t on three generations of our country when I look around the globe and there’s no other dirty shirt I’d put on instead.

[elonmuskrockefeller]

Thanks to his close win in the AZ Senate race, Mark Kelly has attained national recognition & prominence, after going largely unnoticed during his initial 2 year Senate term.

Already known for his (& his twin brother's) astronaut service, it's interesting that he chose to wear his Pax River Navy Test Pilot vintage flight jacket in nearly all his campaign appearances covered by national media.

With Top Gun : Maverick still on movie screens, the patches on his Navy flight jacket make it a provocative campaign wardrobe choice over his NASA Astronaut blue flight jacket.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/kelly ... 66937.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-twi ... paceflight

As the Dems search for younger, more mentally agile, potential 2024 successors to Biden, they'd be wise to consider & promote Kelly.
He's still a blank sheet who could potentially appeal to voters of both parties, ...if promoted rationally.

He's an extremely solid senator, great candidate and upstanding person. Son of two cops. Decorated combat-tested Naval aviator. Astronaut. Seems to be moderate to center-right.

Would you vote for him over DeSantis or Trump?

'moderate to center right'? Kelly?


Voted 3x to ban fracking.

Voted 4x against Keystone XL pipeline.

97% lifetime rating from League of Conservation Voters (Green New Deal group).

Voted for Biden's entire inflationary agenda.

Voted with Biden 98% of the time.


The only thing moderate about Kelly is he once admitted to a journalist that the border was overrun. Then he voted to defund DHS Customs.

Like nearly every Democrat once in the Senate, they vote lockstep the America-last agenda.

[MDlaxfan76]

I'm sure you're not a Liz Cheney fan either.

I'll vote for Liz if she wins the GOP nomination.

Aren't you a GOP primary voter???

Yes. I don't know if Liz would be my first choice, even if she runs. I'd have to see who the other candidates are.
The only thing I'm sure of is that I will never vote for Trump. I never have.

Would it be fair to assume that Liz's generally internationalist foreign policy posture would be an issue, versus someone with closer to an isolationist view? Or is that overstating?

I'm pretty sure she'd have the cojones to make tough decisions, while bringing western leaders with her.

[MDlaxfan76]

Thanks to his close win in the AZ Senate race, Mark Kelly has attained national recognition & prominence, after going largely unnoticed during his initial 2 year Senate term.

Already known for his (& his twin brother's) astronaut service, it's interesting that he chose to wear his Pax River Navy Test Pilot vintage flight jacket in nearly all his campaign appearances covered by national media.

With Top Gun : Maverick still on movie screens, the patches on his Navy flight jacket make it a provocative campaign wardrobe choice over his NASA Astronaut blue flight jacket.
https://www.news18.com/news/world/kelly ... 66937.html
https://www.sciencealert.com/nasa-s-twi ... paceflight

As the Dems search for younger, more mentally agile, potential 2024 successors to Biden, they'd be wise to consider & promote Kelly.
He's still a blank sheet who could potentially appeal to voters of both parties, ...if promoted rationally.

He's an extremely solid senator, great candidate and upstanding person. Son of two cops. Decorated combat-tested Naval aviator. Astronaut. Seems to be moderate to center-right.

Would you vote for him over DeSantis or Trump?

Yes -- happily, & FTR -- I've never voted for Trump & never will.

Dem's aren't the brightest in who they let ascend the throne most years, so you probably won't get your chance unfortunately. I'd like to be proud of my president someday again...

When was that last the case for you?

Sadly, George HW (Senior) Bush might’ve been the best in my lifetime. I was a single digit aged for Reagan but time hasn’t been his friend and probably fairly though it seems like there’s some piling on with respect to his legacy. In the last 50-75yrs there’s been enough volatility over any stretch where if you’re there 8yrs at the top it’s hard to avoid any issues yet I’m not going to sh*t on three generations of our country when I look around the globe and there’s no other dirty shirt I’d put on instead.

I didn't vote for him, but I had no issue in being "proud of my president" with Obama. I'm pretty proud of Biden's resilience, and particularly his leadership abroad. Wish he was smarter and younger, but among world leaders of today, he projects pretty darn well. I'd have been proud of a McCain or Romney as President, I'm sure. I wanted better from W, and was definitely 'proud' in the immediate aftermath of 9-11. But yes, HW.

Of course, pretty much all of the Presidents in my lifetime, even Nixon, and Johnson's fiasco in Vietnam, compare well to the Trump lunacy.

[CU88]

Hogan making the rounds, post Red Ripple...

Red Ripple ? That was my beverage of choice at Dirty Joe's on Pensacola Beach.

http://oldartguy.com/An_Ode_to_Ripple.html

What a blast from the past, somehow I missed the Ripple references on Sanford & Sons!