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[Brooklyn]

A few years ago some right wingers criticized President Obama for allegedly using the IRS to investigate people. Those extremist delusionals said he was being a tyrant who was engaging in unconstitutional actions. We now have reports that tRump took similar actions:


Trump Wanted IRS Investigations of Foes


https://politicalwire.com/2022/11/13/tr ... s-of-foes/

“While in office, President Donald Trump repeatedly told John Kelly, his second White House chief of staff, that he wanted a number of his perceived political enemies to be investigated by the Internal Revenue Service, Mr. Kelly said,” the New York Times reports.

“Mr. Kelly, who was chief of staff from July 2017 through the end of 2018, said in response to questions from The New York Times that Mr. Trump’s demands were part of a broader pattern of him trying to use the Justice Department and his authority as president against people who had been critical of him, including seeking to revoke the security clearances of former top intelligence officials.”



Let's see what the radical far right will be saying about that.

[MDlaxfan76]

Difference being, of course, that Trump appointed officials actually say their boss did so, whereas there's zero evidence that Obama ever did something "similar".

[Kismet]

Florida judge orders Michael Flynn to testify before the Fulton County, Georgia grand jury investigating 2020 election interference in the state.
BOOM.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis says that her prosecutorial team believes that serious crimes have been committed and some individuals may see jail time in the fake electors investigation

BOOM again

[old salt]

5th Amendment or immunity.

[Seacoaster(1)]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

[old salt]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

[Seacoaster(1)]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

[old salt]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

[Seacoaster(1)]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

Oh, OK. Besmirching democracy is the price of getting back at the “Deep State.” Remember that pesky oath?

[old salt]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

Oh, OK. Besmirching democracy is the price of getting back at the “Deep State.” Remember that pesky oath?

Flynn's country turned on him, not the other way around.
Loyalty is a two way street. He became politically inconvenient.
I don't agree with what he's doing now but I can understand how he got here.

[a fan]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Don't break the F'ing law....you were a General, leading thousands of men, under oath, to protect our Nation and its laws, for f*ck's sake. Act like it!!!

[Typical Lax Dad]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

Oh, OK. Besmirching democracy is the price of getting back at the “Deep State.” Remember that pesky oath?

Flynn's country turned on him, not the other way around.
Loyalty is a two way street. He became politically inconvenient.
I don't agree with what he's doing now but I can understand how he got here.

Jesus!!

[old salt]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

Oh, OK. Besmirching democracy is the price of getting back at the “Deep State.” Remember that pesky oath?

Flynn's country turned on him, not the other way around.
Loyalty is a two way street. He became politically inconvenient.
I don't agree with what he's doing now but I can understand how he got here.

Jesus!!

https://www.commentary.org/articles/eli ... y-the-fbi/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/susan-rice ... 1590103327

[Typical Lax Dad]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

Oh, OK. Besmirching democracy is the price of getting back at the “Deep State.” Remember that pesky oath?

Flynn's country turned on him, not the other way around.
Loyalty is a two way street. He became politically inconvenient.
I don't agree with what he's doing now but I can understand how he got here.

Jesus!!

https://www.commentary.org/articles/eli ... y-the-fbi/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/susan-rice ... 1590103327

You gone

[old salt]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

Oh, OK. Besmirching democracy is the price of getting back at the “Deep State.” Remember that pesky oath?

Flynn's country turned on him, not the other way around.
Loyalty is a two way street. He became politically inconvenient.
I don't agree with what he's doing now but I can understand how he got here.

Jesus!!

https://www.commentary.org/articles/eli ... y-the-fbi/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/susan-rice ... 1590103327 *

You gone

* Susan Rice's mysterious email
Team Obama spied on Trump officials and tried to conceal it.
By The Editorial Board, May 21, 2020

‘I know nothing about this.” That’s how Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser, responded when asked on PBS’s NewsHour in March 2017 “whether Trump transition officials, including the President, may have been swept up in surveillance of foreigners at the end of the Obama administration?”

Now we know that denial wasn’t true. The evidence comes from her own hand. In her last minutes in government, on the day of Donald Trump’s inauguration, she sent herself an email to memorialize an Oval Office meeting two weeks earlier. Its attendees included Barack Obama, Joe Biden, FBI Director James Comey, Acting Attorney General Sally Yates and herself. A newly declassified paragraph from that email quotes Mr. Comey talking about the monitoring of Trump adviser Michael Flynn’s conversations with then Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

The timing of that meeting is illuminating. The day before, Jan. 4, 2017, internal FBI documents show the bureau was planning to close its investigation into Mr. Flynn’s ties to Russia because agents had found no evidence of wrongdoing.

The day after, on Jan. 6, Mr. Comey gave his now notorious briefing to President-elect Trump. He mentioned the lurid claims from the Steele dossier. But, incredibly, Mr. Comey did not tell the incoming President the concerns he had expressed the day before to President Obama about the danger of Mr. Flynn’s passing classified information to the Russians. No doubt that is because he wanted to keep from Mr. Trump that the FBI was investigating his team.

The larger truth here is now undeniable: The Obama Administration spied on the political competition, it continued that spying even after Mr. Trump was elected, and then it tried to cover up what it had done. If Mr. Trump had done anything remotely similar, folks would be calling to bring back the guillotine.

Today U.S. Attorney John Durham is overseeing a criminal investigation of the investigators, and perhaps there will be indictments. But even after separate House and Senate inquiries, a nearly two-year investigation by Inspector General Michael Horowitz and the new evidence unearthed by Justice in its reexamination of its prosecution of Mr. Flynn, the American people still lack what they most need: a full explanation of who did what and why.

Which brings us back to Ms. Rice’s running-out-the-door email. Ms. Rice now says she wrote it at the direction of White House counsel. Certainly that would make sense if the purpose was to insulate Mr. Obama, and her email says the President wanted everything done “by the book.” Which is what you write, two weeks after the event, if you want to protect your boss from future investigators.

The Administration knew President Trump would sooner or later discover that his team had been spied on. As former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy has noted, the likeliest explanation for Ms. Rice’s memo was to have on the record a note that would “shift responsibility from President Obama to FBI Director Comey for the pursuit of the Trump-Russia probe.”

Ms. Rice now wants the Trump Administration to release the Flynn-Kislyak transcripts, which she says will vindicate the Obama team’s concerns about Mr. Flynn. By all means, let’s see those transcripts and more. We now know the Obama Administration used intelligence and law enforcement to go after the political opposition. We can also see that they are still now working overtime to keep the American people from getting to the full truth.

[Typical Lax Dad]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Just as you say. Never let a criminal talk unless the deal is in place. Especially one that is a mentally unbalanced seditionist and pseudo-Christian.

Flynn is giving the middle finger to the Deep State that came after him & ruined him. What does he have to lose ? He knows they're going to come after him, no matter what. He was the model of co-operation with Mueller's team. How'd that work out for him ? He knows what he did & said. The Jan 6 comm didn't have anything on him. The Fed's haven't indicted him on anything. All they could do is impugn him for taking the 5th. It's been widely reported what he said, according to others in the room. If there were more than that, the Jan 6 comm & the DoJ would have used it. This is the GA road company performance of the same Jan 6th show trial.

Oh, OK. Besmirching democracy is the price of getting back at the “Deep State.” Remember that pesky oath?

Flynn's country turned on him, not the other way around.
Loyalty is a two way street. He became politically inconvenient.
I don't agree with what he's doing now but I can understand how he got here.

Jesus!!

https://www.commentary.org/articles/eli ... y-the-fbi/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/susan-rice ... 1590103327 *

You gone

* Susan Rice's mysterious email
Team Obama spied on Trump officials and tried to conceal it.
By The Editorial Board, May 21, 2020

‘I know nothing about this.” That’s how Susan Rice, President Obama’s national security adviser, responded when asked on PBS’s NewsHour in March 2017 “whether Trump transition officials, including the President, may have been swept up in surveillance of foreigners at the end of the Obama administration?”

Now we know that denial wasn’t true. The evidence comes from her own hand. In her last minutes in government, on the day of Donald Trump’s inauguration, she sent herself an email to memorialize an Oval Office meeting two weeks earlier. Its attendees included Barack Obama, Joe Biden, FBI Director James Comey, Acting Attorney General Sally Yates and herself. A newly declassified paragraph from that email quotes Mr. Comey talking about the monitoring of Trump adviser Michael Flynn’s conversations with then Russian ambassador Sergey Kislyak.

The timing of that meeting is illuminating. The day before, Jan. 4, 2017, internal FBI documents show the bureau was planning to close its investigation into Mr. Flynn’s ties to Russia because agents had found no evidence of wrongdoing.

The day after, on Jan. 6, Mr. Comey gave his now notorious briefing to President-elect Trump. He mentioned the lurid claims from the Steele dossier. But, incredibly, Mr. Comey did not tell the incoming President the concerns he had expressed the day before to President Obama about the danger of Mr. Flynn’s passing classified information to the Russians. No doubt that is because he wanted to keep from Mr. Trump that the FBI was investigating his team.

The larger truth here is now undeniable: The Obama Administration spied on the political competition, it continued that spying even after Mr. Trump was elected, and then it tried to cover up what it had done. If Mr. Trump had done anything remotely similar, folks would be calling to bring back the guillotine.

Today U.S. Attorney John Durham is overseeing a criminal investigation of the investigators, and perhaps there will be indictments. But even after separate House and Senate inquiries, a nearly two-year investigation by Inspector General Michael Horowitz and the new evidence unearthed by Justice in its reexamination of its prosecution of Mr. Flynn, the American people still lack what they most need: a full explanation of who did what and why.

Which brings us back to Ms. Rice’s running-out-the-door email. Ms. Rice now says she wrote it at the direction of White House counsel. Certainly that would make sense if the purpose was to insulate Mr. Obama, and her email says the President wanted everything done “by the book.” Which is what you write, two weeks after the event, if you want to protect your boss from future investigators.

The Administration knew President Trump would sooner or later discover that his team had been spied on. As former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy has noted, the likeliest explanation for Ms. Rice’s memo was to have on the record a note that would “shift responsibility from President Obama to FBI Director Comey for the pursuit of the Trump-Russia probe.”

Ms. Rice now wants the Trump Administration to release the Flynn-Kislyak transcripts, which she says will vindicate the Obama team’s concerns about Mr. Flynn. By all means, let’s see those transcripts and more. We now know the Obama Administration used intelligence and law enforcement to go after the political opposition. We can also see that they are still now working overtime to keep the American people from getting to the full truth.

[a fan]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Don't break the F'ing law....you were a General, leading thousands of men, under oath, to protect our Nation and its laws, for f*ck's sake. Act like it!!!

[old salt]

https://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-ju ... omeys-fbi/

Flynn documents are the ‘smoking gun’ on Comey’s FBI
BY MARK PENN, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR - 05/01/20

Had the Department of Justice (DOJ) released the newly disclosed documents related to Gen. Michael Flynn three years ago, instead of fired FBI Director James Comey improperly leaking his “memos” on President Trump, there definitely would have been a special counsel — only it would have been investigating the FBI for gross abuse of power, not the Trump administration.

The new documents are in effect the “smoking gun” proving that a cabal at the FBI acted above the law and with extreme political bias, targeting people for prosecution rather than investigating crimes.

DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz found 17 violations of policy and procedure in the initiation of the investigation of Trump’s campaign. Former special counsel Robert Mueller’s report found no evidence of any Trump-Russia collusion. And yet much of the media coverage of all this has been so riddled with bias that, in a recent poll, 53 percent still believe Trump colluded with the Russians to win the 2016 presidential election.

Michael Flynn was targeted for investigation not on the basis of any evidence but simply because he had contacts with the Russian government — something that I would hope would be true of any incoming national security adviser. Those also targeted included former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort, campaign adviser Carter Page and Trump’s personal attorney Michael Cohen. The new documents reveal that, despite a thorough investigation of Flynn, there was no evidence suggesting he was a Russian agent — again, not surprising that it turned out this decorated general was not a Manchurian candidate. One FBI memo just released recommended closing the investigation of Flynn on Jan. 4, 2017, because FBI agents found “no derogatory information.”

But then-FBI agent Peter Strzok intervened with the idea that the never-used Logan Act could be invoked against Flynn; Strzok was cheered on by then-FBI attorney Lisa Page. All this led to a meeting at the highest levels of the FBI that included the director and the FBI’s head of counterintelligence, who took copious notes. It is in these notes that he reflected the discussion that took place about Flynn, writing, “Truth/Admission or to get him to lie, so we can prosecute or get him fired.” No constitutional protections were afforded Flynn, who was even advised by the FBI not to bring a lawyer when he was questioned by agents.

Let’s be candid — Flynn had been cleared of being a Russian agent on Jan. 4, 2017; there was never any evidence he should have been investigated in the first place. Yet now, because the investigation had not been officially closed, FBI officials cooked up a plan to try to create a crime that did not exist. They unmasked the private conversations of Flynn with the Russian ambassador that contained nothing illegal, so the only chance to “get” Flynn was by setting a perjury trap. This was then all picked up by special counsel Mueller’s team, who threatened Flynn with the possible lobbying transgressions of his son.

Why were they desperate to get Flynn fired or prosecuted when there was no evidence whatsoever that he committed a crime? Former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy suggests they needed to get him out of the way of their investigation. I think it is more likely that they simply wanted to get their targets at all costs and sustain their investigation to bring down the administration. Clear prosecutorial abuses were committed against all of the defendants, none of whom were ever charged with colluding with the Russians. Manafort was hit with tax evasion, Stone with lying to Congress about his contacts with a conspiracy theorist. Cohen pleaded to financial and election law crimes. Carter Page escaped prosecution, even after an FBI lawyer faked emails from the CIA to continue unconstitutional surveillance of him.

This was an investigation without foundation that systematically persecuted people at all costs. And the Mueller investigation was honorable only in the sense that the investigators had to admit there never was any evidence of Trump-Russia collusion.

It is all coming out now, but it is way too late. Attorney General William Barr seems to see this all very clearly, but the time to act with tough indictments is truly now, with the release of these explosive documents. The actions in the Flynn case provide the link between the Strzok-Lisa Page texts about “insurance policies” against Trump’s election and actions that were indefensible on every level; they show how the two of them acted in concert to extend their political prejudices to the department’s actions against people who were in no way colluding with Russia. It did not matter to these FBI officials, who acted as though they were above the law: They would get their targets and drag the country through years of a meritless investigation and a false political debate.

[old salt]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Don't break the F'ing law....you were a General, leading thousands of men, under oath, to protect our Nation and its laws, for f*ck's sake. Act like it!!!

Don't be stupid. You like context. If you were Flynn's attorney, what would you advise him to do at this point, in response to the grand jury subpoena. What laws are you accusing Flynn of breaking ? Flynn is no longer a serving General. He is a private citizen, with rights.

[a fan]

5th Amendment or immunity.

Perfect: so very, so perfectly...Flynn.

Flynn has no other rational choice. What would you advise were you his attorney ?

Don't break the F'ing law....you were a General, leading thousands of men, under oath, to protect our Nation and its laws, for f*ck's sake. Act like it!!!

Don't be stupid.

Oh, I'm the one being stupid, am I? Thanks to you and your fellow apologists who thought TeamTrump was sooper-cool, and never told a lie, and folks were NUTS for investigating them.....despite all those felony convictions? And that we were nuts for daring to want him impeached for abuse of power in Ukraine?

Trump just announced he's running again. And your party continues to circle the drain. Well done! Take a bow!