Ron Desantis (The Desantis Doctrine)

[Farfromgeneva]

Serious question: how does Ron get Trump not to run and/or to back him?

Pay him.

... won't work. Trump knows his base will stick with him. DeSantis will not get that base by going against Trump. Trump has the republiCON party by the balls. Trump is no longer a problem for the dems, the republiCONs own the political problem totally. The republiCONs should try to make a deal with the dems to impeach him and invoke the can't serve in federal office punishment. Better yet, they should have done it 2 years ago.

Dunno. I could see Trump finding the value of having a POTUS in his pocket. There was a reason HIll and Bill were at his wedding....

How would DeSantis ever be in his pocket?

Just the threat of criticism from the also-ran peanut gallery?
Trump's relevance will wane super fast if he definitely decides not to run.

... I don't think his relevance will wane all that quickly. The base loves him. This is not a rational set of individuals, it is a cult. They are convinced that what happens to Trump happens to them. If the party disrespects Trump, they disrespect the cult. If Trump sulks, they sulk, or worse. Trump knows this. I am not sure the party understands this. The base has little love for the party. The feel the party has played them too many times.

Same can be said on the flip side. People are realizing that the handout lip-service of the left is really just that....talk. I have many friends and work associates that are die-hard trumpers (cult people) as you ascribe. The cultishness (new word) is not so much a love for Trump, but he is their voice that is never heard and pushed aside in politics. The appeal is Trump has come in a kicked over rocks where rattlesnakes are lurking, and now everyone sees them....and if he plays the role of the martyr, so be it. Imo, that is the truly scary part; if the curtain continues to lift on the shenanigan's that is US politics, it will end up in the gutter. It is why I believe the want Ron to step further away from Trump and they will persuade Trumps base to align with Ron, who is slightly more polished and not so trigger happy be tweeting at 2 am.

Kinda hard to get my point across, and I do agree with you, just with a bit more vision and nuance added.

You argue and seem to be a personal responsibility guy but then point at the other side and give a free pass for people acting like victims and martyrs. That’s the incongruity I’d take issue with.

[Farfromgeneva]

Yup, Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63565224

DeSantis outperformed Trump's 2020 figures in key groups that Democrats will need to hold onto the White House. He made gains with Latinos, women and even slightly with black voters, which allowed him to flip counties that traditionally favour Democrats such as Palm Beach, Osceola and of course Miami Dade.

He was the first Republican governor since 2002 to win the state's most populous and heavily Hispanic county - not only with Cuban Americans who traditionally lean Republican but also many South Americans and Puerto Ricans who tend to vote Democratic.

...what other Hispanic voters did he have to appeal to ?

That said outperformed trump. Not exactly what you originally said, unless outperforming Trump = “pretty well”.

“He turned” means he is solely responsible and not anything about the environment or relative opponent.

[Farfromgeneva]

Same can be said on the flip side. People are realizing that the handout lip-service of the left is really just that....talk. I have many friends and work associates that are die-hard trumpers (cult people) as you ascribe. The cultishness (new word) is not so much a love for Trump, but he is their voice that is never heard and pushed aside in politics.

Oh, they were 100% listened to. By Bernie Sanders. That man hit every working class person's problems for decades, including his candidacy. TrumpFans, who are in epic denial, won't listen to reason.

They didn't want to hear it. Until they're ready to hear the message, they're F'ed.

And you know exactly what that message is, because I've said it a million times.

It's why I believe Ron is that new shiny toy for the R party. He's not as horrible as Trump, he turned a purple Florida into fire engine red, and he is not Bernie wanting to give everyone something for free.....while the redwing working class pays for it all.

I think you guys are both ignoring the major issue. Bernie's not a bigot. He's not going to tell Americans that the problem with their lives is because there's some Other out there that's determined to "replace" them.

Otherwise, he's all policy for the working class, the blue collar family; paid for by the hyper rich....just no bigotry...and the cult is really, when the onion is fully peeled, all about the bigotry, the excuse, the blame.

DeSantis is playing the bigotry card...

Is a partial diagnosis of inequality without understanding of a system and just “redistribution, redistribution, redistribution” really policy? Sanders cares but he’s the extreme version of why I can’t go Dem except that rare two times (Biden to get the freak show out and it worked in one of those 11k votes he wanted to steal) and Warnock because there’s zero chance I want him representing me and my family in this state.

I'm definitely not here to support or explain Bernie's views and policy positions. Just saying that they actually went to the issues of lower working class and poor more effectively than any of the MAGA BS. If that was actually the issue animating the MAGA movement, they'd have responded to Bernie more...but it's really about bigotry, blame, and excuses...manipulated by those wanting power and control.

What caused my response was the underlined “all policy” framing. I think you meant his focus is on solving what he sees as a problem but I don’t see what he is or does as “all policy”. I do him caring about people over himself and wanting to solve problems which is a baseline we should have for all politicians.

[Farfromgeneva]

Yup, Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63565224

DeSantis outperformed Trump's 2020 figures in key groups that Democrats will need to hold onto the White House. He made gains with Latinos, women and even slightly with black voters, which allowed him to flip counties that traditionally favour Democrats such as Palm Beach, Osceola and of course Miami Dade.

He was the first Republican governor since 2002 to win the state's most populous and heavily Hispanic county - not only with Cuban Americans who traditionally lean Republican but also many South Americans and Puerto Ricans who tend to vote Democratic.

...what other Hispanic voters did he have to appeal to ?

Old Salt, for heaven's sake-----just because he got votes from this or that, doesn't mean he hasn't done stuff to appeal to bigots, or said racist things.

As usual, I have to give you an example of a Dem doing it for it to sink in. Remember this quote?

Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”


Remember that from Biden? This is plainly, clearly a horrible thing to say------condescending, racist, belittling, etc. Pick your adjective.

Get it? And yet Biden received the vast, vast majority of the black vote.

Not everyone hangs on every word a candidate says like we do at the Forum.....

This really isn't that difficult to understand. The Dem Party in Florida is a mess, they have a dearth of solid candidates, very poor organization. And the state has been trending hard red for some time.

The Cuban and Venezuelan communities fall for the "socialist" pitch about Dems and skew red unlike other Hispanic communities.

And DeSantis isn't incompetent.

But DeSantis has played all sorts of bigotry cards to appeal to MAGA voters. That attracts MAGA and there ain't enough voters in Florida turned off by them.

DeSantis is trying to craft a "Christian Nationalism" posture that is not overtly racist, though appeals to white evangelical Christian Nationalists and wink wink full on white supremacists. It's intended to attract Catholic culturally conservative Hispanics, especially those who hear the "socialist" label and think of the dictatorships...appeals to non college educated white voters in particular, and those for whom "patriotism" means my group is in power.

"Strong man"...

Works in Florida. Will in Alabama and Mississippi and Missouri....

It won't in Michigan and Pennsylvania and...Georgia!...and...

Playing dumb and then crying victim is a common playbook amongst this crowd.

And my son today…

[elonmuskrockefeller]

Yup, Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63565224

DeSantis outperformed Trump's 2020 figures in key groups that Democrats will need to hold onto the White House. He made gains with Latinos, women and even slightly with black voters, which allowed him to flip counties that traditionally favour Democrats such as Palm Beach, Osceola and of course Miami Dade.

He was the first Republican governor since 2002 to win the state's most populous and heavily Hispanic county - not only with Cuban Americans who traditionally lean Republican but also many South Americans and Puerto Ricans who tend to vote Democratic.

...what other Hispanic voters did he have to appeal to ?

Old Salt, for heaven's sake-----just because he got votes from this or that, doesn't mean he hasn't done stuff to appeal to bigots, or said racist things.

As usual, I have to give you an example of a Dem doing it for it to sink in. Remember this quote?

Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”


Remember that from Biden? This is plainly, clearly a horrible thing to say------condescending, racist, belittling, etc. Pick your adjective.

Get it? And yet Biden received the vast, vast majority of the black vote.

Not everyone hangs on every word a candidate says like we do at the Forum.....

This really isn't that difficult to understand. The Dem Party in Florida is a mess, they have a dearth of solid candidates, very poor organization. And the state has been trending hard red for some time.

The Cuban and Venezuelan communities fall for the "socialist" pitch about Dems and skew red unlike other Hispanic communities.

And DeSantis isn't incompetent.

But DeSantis has played all sorts of bigotry cards to appeal to MAGA voters. That attracts MAGA and there ain't enough voters in Florida turned off by them.

DeSantis is trying to craft a "Christian Nationalism" posture that is not overtly racist, though appeals to white evangelical Christian Nationalists and wink wink full on white supremacists. It's intended to attract Catholic culturally conservative Hispanics, especially those who hear the "socialist" label and think of the dictatorships...appeals to non college educated white voters in particular, and those for whom "patriotism" means my group is in power.

"Strong man"...

Works in Florida. Will in Alabama and Mississippi and Missouri....

It won't in Michigan and Pennsylvania and...Georgia!...and...

MDLax wants to explain to the very folks who escaped communism that they actually don't know what communism is.

Amazing.

[elonmuskrockefeller]

"Monday: Florida goes into a state of emergency with another hurricane, Nicole

Tuesday: purple Florida holds an election, counts the votes, calls every statewide and local race that evening by 8 pm, zero complaints from anyone about process or suppression

Wednesday: Hurricane Nicole hits the east coast of Florida; A1A is washed out in multiple spots

Thursday: the clean up begins

Friday: major roads are repaired, A1A fully reopened, power restored to 95% of those who lost power

Saturday: Arizona and Nevada are still counting votes"


Yeah folks, it's Ron Desantis who is the problem.

[MDlaxfan76]

Same can be said on the flip side. People are realizing that the handout lip-service of the left is really just that....talk. I have many friends and work associates that are die-hard trumpers (cult people) as you ascribe. The cultishness (new word) is not so much a love for Trump, but he is their voice that is never heard and pushed aside in politics.

Oh, they were 100% listened to. By Bernie Sanders. That man hit every working class person's problems for decades, including his candidacy. TrumpFans, who are in epic denial, won't listen to reason.

They didn't want to hear it. Until they're ready to hear the message, they're F'ed.

And you know exactly what that message is, because I've said it a million times.

It's why I believe Ron is that new shiny toy for the R party. He's not as horrible as Trump, he turned a purple Florida into fire engine red, and he is not Bernie wanting to give everyone something for free.....while the redwing working class pays for it all.

I think you guys are both ignoring the major issue. Bernie's not a bigot. He's not going to tell Americans that the problem with their lives is because there's some Other out there that's determined to "replace" them.

Otherwise, he's all policy for the working class, the blue collar family; paid for by the hyper rich....just no bigotry...and the cult is really, when the onion is fully peeled, all about the bigotry, the excuse, the blame.

DeSantis is playing the bigotry card...

Is a partial diagnosis of inequality without understanding of a system and just “redistribution, redistribution, redistribution” really policy? Sanders cares but he’s the extreme version of why I can’t go Dem except that rare two times (Biden to get the freak show out and it worked in one of those 11k votes he wanted to steal) and Warnock because there’s zero chance I want him representing me and my family in this state.

I'm definitely not here to support or explain Bernie's views and policy positions. Just saying that they actually went to the issues of lower working class and poor more effectively than any of the MAGA BS. If that was actually the issue animating the MAGA movement, they'd have responded to Bernie more...but it's really about bigotry, blame, and excuses...manipulated by those wanting power and control.

What caused my response was the underlined “all policy” framing. I think you meant his focus is on solving what he sees as a problem but I don’t see what he is or does as “all policy”. I do him caring about people over himself and wanting to solve problems which is a baseline we should have for all politicians.

Probably fair...I was simply saying he's not afraid to put actual policies on the table...it's not just bluster and hyperbole, he proposes what he thinks would be solutions...whether he think they'd get the job done is an entirely different discussion, bit there's no doubt that he puts policies on the table.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yup, Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63565224

DeSantis outperformed Trump's 2020 figures in key groups that Democrats will need to hold onto the White House. He made gains with Latinos, women and even slightly with black voters, which allowed him to flip counties that traditionally favour Democrats such as Palm Beach, Osceola and of course Miami Dade.

He was the first Republican governor since 2002 to win the state's most populous and heavily Hispanic county - not only with Cuban Americans who traditionally lean Republican but also many South Americans and Puerto Ricans who tend to vote Democratic.

...what other Hispanic voters did he have to appeal to ?

Old Salt, for heaven's sake-----just because he got votes from this or that, doesn't mean he hasn't done stuff to appeal to bigots, or said racist things.

As usual, I have to give you an example of a Dem doing it for it to sink in. Remember this quote?

Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”


Remember that from Biden? This is plainly, clearly a horrible thing to say------condescending, racist, belittling, etc. Pick your adjective.

Get it? And yet Biden received the vast, vast majority of the black vote.

Not everyone hangs on every word a candidate says like we do at the Forum.....

This really isn't that difficult to understand. The Dem Party in Florida is a mess, they have a dearth of solid candidates, very poor organization. And the state has been trending hard red for some time.

The Cuban and Venezuelan communities fall for the "socialist" pitch about Dems and skew red unlike other Hispanic communities.

And DeSantis isn't incompetent.

But DeSantis has played all sorts of bigotry cards to appeal to MAGA voters. That attracts MAGA and there ain't enough voters in Florida turned off by them.

DeSantis is trying to craft a "Christian Nationalism" posture that is not overtly racist, though appeals to white evangelical Christian Nationalists and wink wink full on white supremacists. It's intended to attract Catholic culturally conservative Hispanics, especially those who hear the "socialist" label and think of the dictatorships...appeals to non college educated white voters in particular, and those for whom "patriotism" means my group is in power.

"Strong man"...

Works in Florida. Will in Alabama and Mississippi and Missouri....

It won't in Michigan and Pennsylvania and...Georgia!...and...

MDLax wants to explain to the very folks who escaped communism that they actually don't know what communism is.

Amazing.

Really, that's what I want to do?

And "communism"???

Now, if you're asking about the differences between dictatorships that claim socialism as their cause, and what we have here in the US, I'd be happy to discuss. But yeah, Cubans have largely bought the BS the GOP has been selling...reality is very different. I understand their perspective.

[a fan]

"Monday: Florida goes into a state of emergency with another hurricane, Nicole

Tuesday: purple Florida holds an election, counts the votes, calls every statewide and local race that evening by 8 pm, zero complaints from anyone about process or suppression

Wednesday: Hurricane Nicole hits the east coast of Florida; A1A is washed out in multiple spots

Thursday: the clean up begins

Friday: major roads are repaired, A1A fully reopened, power restored to 95% of those who lost power

Saturday: Arizona and Nevada are still counting votes"


Yeah folks, it's Ron Desantis who is the problem.

And how did DeSantis fix these things? That's right, Pete: yet again, the answer is socialism. FEMA; the Federal Government replacement for private insurance.

Hey Pete: I thought socialism was bad? What happened to that?

[a fan]

MDLax wants to explain to the very folks who escaped communism that they actually don't know what communism is.

They don't. Neither do you, Pete.

They, like you, are being fooled by 1%ers. Anything to get you lot to fall in line.

It's worked for thousands of years.

[jhu72]

"Monday: Florida goes into a state of emergency with another hurricane, Nicole

Tuesday: purple Florida holds an election, counts the votes, calls every statewide and local race that evening by 8 pm, zero complaints from anyone about process or suppression

Wednesday: Hurricane Nicole hits the east coast of Florida; A1A is washed out in multiple spots

Thursday: the clean up begins

Friday: major roads are repaired, A1A fully reopened, power restored to 95% of those who lost power

Saturday: Arizona and Nevada are still counting votes"


Yeah folks, it's Ron Desantis who is the problem.

... Mussolini made the trains run on time ...

[Farfromgeneva]

Why do you guys engage? It's, at best, like this classic scene from eteranl classic Flash Gordon...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80sCD2p0W1Q

[elonmuskrockefeller]

"Monday: Florida goes into a state of emergency with another hurricane, Nicole

Tuesday: purple Florida holds an election, counts the votes, calls every statewide and local race that evening by 8 pm, zero complaints from anyone about process or suppression

Wednesday: Hurricane Nicole hits the east coast of Florida; A1A is washed out in multiple spots

Thursday: the clean up begins

Friday: major roads are repaired, A1A fully reopened, power restored to 95% of those who lost power

Saturday: Arizona and Nevada are still counting votes"


Yeah folks, it's Ron Desantis who is the problem.

... Mussolini made the trains run on time ...

Ron Desantis, D1 Yale baseball player with wife and three kids, is now 'Mussolini'.

Amazing your takes aren't viewed very seriously.

[elonmuskrockefeller]

MDLax wants to explain to the very folks who escaped communism that they actually don't know what communism is.

They don't. Neither do you, Pete.

They, like you, are being fooled by 1%ers. Anything to get you lot to fall in line.

It's worked for thousands of years.

They don't? Your life experience entitles you to judge those who fled communism risking their lives such that they have no idea what communism looks like, yet you do? Interesting take.

[elonmuskrockefeller]

Yup, Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63565224

DeSantis outperformed Trump's 2020 figures in key groups that Democrats will need to hold onto the White House. He made gains with Latinos, women and even slightly with black voters, which allowed him to flip counties that traditionally favour Democrats such as Palm Beach, Osceola and of course Miami Dade.

He was the first Republican governor since 2002 to win the state's most populous and heavily Hispanic county - not only with Cuban Americans who traditionally lean Republican but also many South Americans and Puerto Ricans who tend to vote Democratic.

...what other Hispanic voters did he have to appeal to ?

Old Salt, for heaven's sake-----just because he got votes from this or that, doesn't mean he hasn't done stuff to appeal to bigots, or said racist things.

As usual, I have to give you an example of a Dem doing it for it to sink in. Remember this quote?

Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”


Remember that from Biden? This is plainly, clearly a horrible thing to say------condescending, racist, belittling, etc. Pick your adjective.

Get it? And yet Biden received the vast, vast majority of the black vote.

Not everyone hangs on every word a candidate says like we do at the Forum.....

This really isn't that difficult to understand. The Dem Party in Florida is a mess, they have a dearth of solid candidates, very poor organization. And the state has been trending hard red for some time.

The Cuban and Venezuelan communities fall for the "socialist" pitch about Dems and skew red unlike other Hispanic communities.

And DeSantis isn't incompetent.

But DeSantis has played all sorts of bigotry cards to appeal to MAGA voters. That attracts MAGA and there ain't enough voters in Florida turned off by them.

DeSantis is trying to craft a "Christian Nationalism" posture that is not overtly racist, though appeals to white evangelical Christian Nationalists and wink wink full on white supremacists. It's intended to attract Catholic culturally conservative Hispanics, especially those who hear the "socialist" label and think of the dictatorships...appeals to non college educated white voters in particular, and those for whom "patriotism" means my group is in power.

"Strong man"...

Works in Florida. Will in Alabama and Mississippi and Missouri....

It won't in Michigan and Pennsylvania and...Georgia!...and...

MDLax wants to explain to the very folks who escaped communism that they actually don't know what communism is.

Amazing.

Really, that's what I want to do?

And "communism"???

Now, if you're asking about the differences between dictatorships that claim socialism as their cause, and what we have here in the US, I'd be happy to discuss. But yeah, Cubans have largely bought the BS the GOP has been selling...reality is very different. I understand their perspective.

Your posts certainly read that you feel entitled to judge others' collective IQ, people who actually risked their lives to escape the evils of communism (which our American Democrats are simply a lite version of), but you state these folks aren't bright enough from being hornswoggled by a bunch of 'racist Republicans'. Correct me if I am wrong. Your literal words were: "The Cuban and Venezuelan communities fall for the "socialist" pitch about Dems". That implies they aren't bright. Maybe rewrite your text?

[elonmuskrockefeller]

"Monday: Florida goes into a state of emergency with another hurricane, Nicole

Tuesday: purple Florida holds an election, counts the votes, calls every statewide and local race that evening by 8 pm, zero complaints from anyone about process or suppression

Wednesday: Hurricane Nicole hits the east coast of Florida; A1A is washed out in multiple spots

Thursday: the clean up begins

Friday: major roads are repaired, A1A fully reopened, power restored to 95% of those who lost power

Saturday: Arizona and Nevada are still counting votes"


Yeah folks, it's Ron Desantis who is the problem.

And how did DeSantis fix these things? That's right, Pete: yet again, the answer is socialism. FEMA; the Federal Government replacement for private insurance.

Hey Pete: I thought socialism was bad? What happened to that?

It's actually called leadership. You keep confusing socialism with paid-for services via mandatory taxation.

[njbill]

George Conway said on MSNBC this morning that he does not think DeSantis will run in 2024. Said that if he were smart he would not run since he is obviously young enough to run sometime down the road.

Sounded like his theory was that Trump would beat up DeSantis too much and he would be damaged goods even if he ultimately got the nomination. Then there’s my theory which is that Trump would run third-party if he doesn’t get the nomination. That would destroy any hopes DeSantis might have of winning the general election.

I agree with Conway. DeSantis would be smart to wait until 2028.

[MDlaxfan76]

Yup, Cubans.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-63565224

DeSantis outperformed Trump's 2020 figures in key groups that Democrats will need to hold onto the White House. He made gains with Latinos, women and even slightly with black voters, which allowed him to flip counties that traditionally favour Democrats such as Palm Beach, Osceola and of course Miami Dade.

He was the first Republican governor since 2002 to win the state's most populous and heavily Hispanic county - not only with Cuban Americans who traditionally lean Republican but also many South Americans and Puerto Ricans who tend to vote Democratic.

...what other Hispanic voters did he have to appeal to ?

Old Salt, for heaven's sake-----just because he got votes from this or that, doesn't mean he hasn't done stuff to appeal to bigots, or said racist things.

As usual, I have to give you an example of a Dem doing it for it to sink in. Remember this quote?

Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”


Remember that from Biden? This is plainly, clearly a horrible thing to say------condescending, racist, belittling, etc. Pick your adjective.

Get it? And yet Biden received the vast, vast majority of the black vote.

Not everyone hangs on every word a candidate says like we do at the Forum.....

This really isn't that difficult to understand. The Dem Party in Florida is a mess, they have a dearth of solid candidates, very poor organization. And the state has been trending hard red for some time.

The Cuban and Venezuelan communities fall for the "socialist" pitch about Dems and skew red unlike other Hispanic communities.

And DeSantis isn't incompetent.

But DeSantis has played all sorts of bigotry cards to appeal to MAGA voters. That attracts MAGA and there ain't enough voters in Florida turned off by them.

DeSantis is trying to craft a "Christian Nationalism" posture that is not overtly racist, though appeals to white evangelical Christian Nationalists and wink wink full on white supremacists. It's intended to attract Catholic culturally conservative Hispanics, especially those who hear the "socialist" label and think of the dictatorships...appeals to non college educated white voters in particular, and those for whom "patriotism" means my group is in power.

"Strong man"...

Works in Florida. Will in Alabama and Mississippi and Missouri....

It won't in Michigan and Pennsylvania and...Georgia!...and...

MDLax wants to explain to the very folks who escaped communism that they actually don't know what communism is.

Amazing.

Really, that's what I want to do?

And "communism"???

Now, if you're asking about the differences between dictatorships that claim socialism as their cause, and what we have here in the US, I'd be happy to discuss. But yeah, Cubans have largely bought the BS the GOP has been selling...reality is very different. I understand their perspective.

Your posts certainly read that you feel entitled to judge others' collective IQ, people who actually risked their lives to escape the evils of communism (which our American Democrats are simply a lite version of), but you state these folks aren't bright enough from being hornswoggled by a bunch of 'racist Republicans'. Correct me if I am wrong. Your literal words were: "The Cuban and Venezuelan communities fall for the "socialist" pitch about Dems". That implies they aren't bright. Maybe rewrite your text?

F_off, Petey, bright people fall for things all the time.

Yes, Cubans in particular, Venezuelans as well, have hardened views on "socialism" which are often well informed by personal experiences with dictatorships...what they 'fall' for is the cynical, manipulative BS pitch that they should fear such here in the US.

The US is not remotely in danger in becoming a communist dictatorship...we ARE in danger of authoritarianism but it's not (currently) from the left.

If we were, you'd see me on the side of opposing such strongly.

[MDlaxfan76]

"Monday: Florida goes into a state of emergency with another hurricane, Nicole

Tuesday: purple Florida holds an election, counts the votes, calls every statewide and local race that evening by 8 pm, zero complaints from anyone about process or suppression

Wednesday: Hurricane Nicole hits the east coast of Florida; A1A is washed out in multiple spots

Thursday: the clean up begins

Friday: major roads are repaired, A1A fully reopened, power restored to 95% of those who lost power

Saturday: Arizona and Nevada are still counting votes"


Yeah folks, it's Ron Desantis who is the problem.

And how did DeSantis fix these things? That's right, Pete: yet again, the answer is socialism. FEMA; the Federal Government replacement for private insurance.

Hey Pete: I thought socialism was bad? What happened to that?

It's actually called leadership. You keep confusing socialism with paid-for services via mandatory taxation.

No, YOU keep "confusing (communism) with paid-for services via mandatory taxation". The US has various levels of "socialism" as correctly defined as distinct from authoritarian communism.

DeSantis, like you, pretends he's fighting "socialism" while actively embracing socialism at nearly every turn.

There are no elected Democrats arguing for authoritarian communism, they merely argue for more "paid-for services via mandatory taxation"...same as DeSantis in reality, the difference being that the Dems think the government "services" should be directed particularly at the least wealthy rather than the most.

And that's what the GOP has branded as "socialism" as if evil.
But handouts to Mega-farm corps and oil companies, tax breaks for the super rich, nah, that's not "socialism" that's....

[MDlaxfan76]

"Monday: Florida goes into a state of emergency with another hurricane, Nicole

Tuesday: purple Florida holds an election, counts the votes, calls every statewide and local race that evening by 8 pm, zero complaints from anyone about process or suppression

Wednesday: Hurricane Nicole hits the east coast of Florida; A1A is washed out in multiple spots

Thursday: the clean up begins

Friday: major roads are repaired, A1A fully reopened, power restored to 95% of those who lost power

Saturday: Arizona and Nevada are still counting votes"


Yeah folks, it's Ron Desantis who is the problem.

... Mussolini made the trains run on time ...

Ron Desantis, D1 Yale baseball player with wife and three kids, is now 'Mussolini'.

Amazing your takes aren't viewed very seriously.

Back with the "DI" athlete...from the non-athlete on the board.
We remember all your fawning and drooling over the "wife" too.

And somehow that means he's not a fascist threat?
He's pitching and dog whistling Christian Nationalism and has repeatedly demonstrated willingness to be authoritarian.

But hey, he played baseball at Yale??? And has a hot wife???