January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?

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SCLaxAttack wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 1:42 pm Anyone surprised by this? https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/24/politics ... index.html
Same drill as a few weeks ago when former DOPUS went to SCOTUS on MEL documents case. They quickly turned it down without comment after asking for and getting input from both sides. Expect the same deal here.
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Ann no time for video of Hope Hicks interview w the committee?

Or any videos of Hope Hicks in general?

(Aside her sister is a generic hottie from Fairfield county who went to Hobart, er, HWS, and thanks she’s a model when in reality she’s another generic, vapid, hot girl running around Greenwich Village/Tribeca/Gramercy and now probably the highline in search of a Mrs. degree)
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jhu72 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:24 am In the category you can't make this sh*t up. :lol: :lol:
Thank an attorney.
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What kind of lawyer would expect to get away with tossing a very specific term like crazy and stress that word’s importance as distinction but then not narrowly and specifically attempt to control the agreed upon definition of the term “crazy”?
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:05 am What kind of lawyer would expect to get away with tossing a very specific term like crazy and stress that word’s importance as distinction but then not narrowly and specifically attempt to control the agreed upon definition of the term “crazy”?
The kind an Oath Keeper would hire?
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Mark Meadows ordered to testify in Georgia.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/26/politics ... index.html
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“I wish you would!”
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:11 am Any more news on the secret service texts that were all wiped?

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... tol-attack

https://www.citizensforethics.org/repor ... january-6/
Besides some free advice for Joe: "watch your back?"
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:09 am
Farfromgeneva wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:05 am What kind of lawyer would expect to get away with tossing a very specific term like crazy and stress that word’s importance as distinction but then not narrowly and specifically attempt to control the agreed upon definition of the term “crazy”?
The kind an Oath Keeper would hire?
Just plead guilty and throw yourself at the mercy of the court and save the money for your commissary account...load up on bear claws, kool aid and smokes to save your bacon from getting deep fried by the big boys on Cell Block 4.
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Judge Berman Jackson sentences Jan. 6 rioter Albuquerque Head to *90 months* in prison, just shy of maximum sentence for his assault of Officer Fanone on Jan. 6.

It's the second longest Jan. 6 sentence delivered so far.
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Feds flipped a big fish. Proud Boy leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio has just plead guilty to seditious conspiracy for his role on January 6 and will COOPERATE FULLY against other members of the proud boys. They also announced that John Charles Stewart, a Proud Boys member from Pennsylvania, has also pleaded guilty to seditious conspiracy in a deal with U.S. prosecutors.
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Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm Feds just flipped a big fish. Proud Boy leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio has just plead guilty to seditious conspiracy for his role on January 6 and will COOPERATE FULLY against other members of the proud boys.
ohhh...

How about Stone, Flynn, et al?

EDIT: Wait, are you sure? Looks like Stewart did...did Tarrio?
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Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm Feds just flipped a big fish. Proud Boy leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio has just plead guilty to seditious conspiracy for his role on January 6 and will COOPERATE FULLY against other members of the proud boys.
I want to know what was in it for The Proud Boys and how long they had been playing footsie. Not everyday are folks willing to die for a politician for no reason.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 5:02 pm
Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 4:31 pm Feds just flipped a big fish. Proud Boy leader Henry “Enrique” Tarrio has just plead guilty to seditious conspiracy for his role on January 6 and will COOPERATE FULLY against other members of the proud boys.
I want to know what was in it for The Proud Boys and how long they had been playing footsie. Not everyday are folks willing to die for a politician for no reason.
Look for incentives. They’re selling something.

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Blockbuster: Christian leaders from multiple denominations asked the Jan 6 committee to investigate Christian Nationalism. The claim they recognized it in the Jan 6 insurrection. The group (Christians Against Christian Nationalism) had been formed in 2018, years before the incident to monitor the movement. The Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty published a report.

Christian nationalism was used to 'bolster, justify and intensify the January 6 attack on the Capitol,' said Amanda Tyler, head of the Baptist Joint Committee for Religious Liberty.
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Dan Crenshaw claims election deniers admit it 'was always a lie' behind closed doors

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) asserted on a podcast Wednesday that elected officials who have publicly said they could overturn the 2020 election knew it was not possible.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... osed-doors
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I'm an election denier too. What about all the voter fraud in 2020 in Texas, Florida, North Carolina, and Ohio? Everyone knows Biden won those states. It's a disgrace.
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CU88 wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:56 am Dan Crenshaw claims election deniers admit it 'was always a lie' behind closed doors

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) asserted on a podcast Wednesday that elected officials who have publicly said they could overturn the 2020 election knew it was not possible.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... osed-doors
So why did Crenshaw sign that amicus brief???
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 1:29 pm
CU88 wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 5:56 am Dan Crenshaw claims election deniers admit it 'was always a lie' behind closed doors

Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) asserted on a podcast Wednesday that elected officials who have publicly said they could overturn the 2020 election knew it was not possible.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news ... osed-doors
So why did Crenshaw sign that amicus brief???
Exactly the right question. This is a guy who has always pretended to be on the side of reasonableness, who then does stupid things. Hard to figure.
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