get it to x wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 9:08 am
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 8:40 am
get it to x wrote: ↑Fri Oct 21, 2022 7:57 am
The Congressional Black Caucus has thrown its financial support behind a white male Democratic congressman in Indiana rather than to his challenger who is looking to become the only Black female Republican in Congress.
"It’s the American people versus the DC politicians and lobbyists," Air Force veteran Jennifer-Ruth Green told Fox News Digital in a statement. "I’m with the American people. The Congressional Black Caucus is with the politicians and lobbyists, and their career politician ally Frank Mrvan. America’s poorest communities are proof Frank Mrvan and the CBC care more about power and helping themselves than helping the people of northwest Indiana. It’s sad."
So much for historic firsts for women and people of color.
well, yes, she's 100% all-in culture warrior. CRT, abortion, "America was founded as a Christian nation", etc, etc...though she's not a complete whack job.
Impressive personal background, but her views would be anathema to a Democrat...
But yes, her most recent tweet is all about not getting endorsed by the CBC.
Not pointing at you, but most of the people I know on the left generally have either antipathy or hostility towards religion. Many times it takes a mocking tone, like "Go tell it to your imaginary friend". The left is confused about what the Constitution says about religion. The government may not establish a government religion nor can it prohibit it's free exercise. It's the ultimate "Leave me alone!!" clause. You may not realize it, but those non-believers practice their own form of religion, with sacraments like abortion and "Climate Change" activism that you see your acts of charity. The need to seek what is perceived as positive change comes from somewhere. I suspect that many have a religious background in their family that made them want to help, but they have strayed from religion. I understand, as the church on Earth has not always been in alignment with the teachings of Christ. Unfortunately, the fact that they want government to make decisions absent the Judeo-Christian ethos of humility and compassion will in the end lead to a crueler outcome for those that need our compassion.
I think that the reason you may have responded to me rather than over on the religion thread re your views about secularism is that I noted this particular candidate's mistaken belief that "America was founded as a Christian nation"...a common refrain among Christian Nationalists. This proposition is provably false, though certainly it winds many folks up. I don't know whether that's her actual belief or she just wants to attract Christian Nationalists votes, but...
I was objecting to that, not someone incorporating their "Judeo-Christian ethos" into their own living and practices, nor would I object to a Muslim or Buddhist etc incorporating their religious beliefs into their own living or practices.
Factually, none can claim preeminence as endorsed by the US Constitution, nor by the Founders for that matter.
My objection is utilizing the power of government to enforce one's religious beliefs and their consequences on others.
Christian Nationalists wish to impose a very particular set of religious beliefs, indeed the most 'fundamentalist' of such, on the rest of the society...big objection, thank you.
Now as to secularists, assuming that's what you mean by "non-believers" (I think that's also a mistaken construct as one can be both a believer in God and insist upon secular government), I understand why you may ascribe some of the passion some feel about a particular issue as almost or actually doctrinal, or dogmatic, and I'm sure that's fair in some people's cases. Doctrine and dogma are a short cut to values based on reason, whether religious or anything else. That short cut has some positive implications, but it also has negative.
Where I think you may be going astray is assuming that positions on topics like climate change aren't based on reason and evidence, much akin to the evolution versus creationism 'debate' between "believers" and those who think science actually matters, indeed that the higher power, however defined, endowed us with the capacity for reason...so use it.