Orange Duce

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"A top Justice Department official told former President Donald J. Trump’s lawyers in recent weeks that the department believed he had not returned all the documents he took when he left the White House, according to two people briefed on the matter.

The outreach from the official, Jay I. Bratt, who leads the department’s counterintelligence operations, is the most concrete indication yet that investigators remain skeptical that Mr. Trump has been fully cooperative in their efforts to recover documents the former president was supposed to have turned over to the National Archives at the end of his term.

It is not clear what steps the Justice Department might take to retrieve any material it thinks Mr. Trump still holds.

And it is not known whether the Justice Department has gathered new evidence that Mr. Trump has held onto government material even after the court-authorized search in August of his private club and residence in Florida, Mar-a-Lago, and 18 months of previous efforts by the federal government to convince the former president to return what he had taken on leaving office.

The Justice Department declined to comment.

The outreach from the department prompted a rift among Mr. Trump’s lawyers about how to respond, with one camp counseling a cooperative approach that would include bringing in an outside firm to conduct a further search for documents and another advising Mr. Trump to maintain a more combative posture.

The more combative camp, the people briefed on the matter said, won out.

The government has found more than 300 classified documents in material that had been kept at Mar-a-Lago, including some marked as containing the most sensitive information that would cross the president’s desk.

But the Justice Department has previously signaled doubts that Mr. Trump had turned over everything in his possession. Shortly after the search in August, it was revealed that federal investigators had found dozens of empty folders at Mar-a-Lago marked as containing classified information. The disclosure raised further questions about whether the Justice Department had indeed recovered all the classified materials that may have been taken out of the White House.

The empty folders were found during the search of Mar-a-Lago along with 40 other empty folders that said they contained sensitive documents that should be returned “to staff secretary/military aide,” according to a court filing. Agents found the empty folders along with seven documents marked as “top secret” in Mr. Trump’s office. Investigators also found 11 more marked as “top secret” in a storage room.

The department has also signaled in court filings that it has continued to try to determine whether more government materials remain unaccounted for. In a September court filing, the Justice Department complained that a judge’s decision to bar the authorities from having access to the documents they seized in the search — later partially reversed by a federal appeals court — would limit their ability to determine whether documents were missing.

The injunction, the department said in the filing, “appears to bar the FBI and DOJ from further reviewing the records to discern any patterns in the types of records that were retained, which could lead to identification of other records still missing.”

The department added that the injunction “would prohibit the government from using any aspect of the seized records’ contents to support the use of compulsory process to locate any additional records.”

Among the potential crimes that the department cited in seeking the search warrant for Mar-a-Lago was obstruction.

Justice Department officials and representatives of Mr. Trump have held a number of discussions in recent weeks. After the call from Mr. Bratt, who has led the Justice Department’s investigation into Mr. Trump’s handling of the documents, Mr. Trump initially agreed to go along with the advice of one of his lawyers, Christopher M. Kise, who suggested hiring a forensic firm to search for additional documents, according to the people briefed on the matter.

But other lawyers in Mr. Trump’s circle — who have argued for taking a more adversarial posture in dealing with the Justice Department — disagreed with Mr. Kise’s approach. They talked Mr. Trump out of the idea and have encouraged him to maintain an aggressive stance toward the authorities, according to a person familiar with the matter.

It is unclear at which property Mr. Kise wanted a voluntary search by an outside group to be conducted. Along with his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Fla., Mr. Trump frequently spends time at his club in Bedminster, N.J., and an office in Manhattan.

The disagreement among the lawyers about how to respond to the Justice Department helped create a fissure within Mr. Trump’s legal team and led, in part, to the minimization of Mr. Kise’s role in Mr. Trump’s legal team in recent weeks.

Mr. Kise did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

Taylor Budowich, a spokesman for Mr. Trump, criticized the Justice Department.

“The weaponized Department of Justice and the politicized F.B.I. are spending millions and millions of American tax dollars to perpetuate witch hunt after witch hunt,” he said.

Mr. Trump’s apparent reluctance so far to cooperate puts the department in the fraught position of having to decide from among an array of difficult choices, including whether to give up on trying to obtain the documents, issuing a subpoena for them, obtaining another search warrant or pushing for Mr. Trump to attest under oath that he has handed over all the materials in his possession.

Bob Litt, a longtime national security lawyer, said the Justice Department has a number of options short of carrying out another search warrant. One would be to file a motion in the ongoing court fight over the documents, seeking either return of the documents or a statement under oath from Mr. Trump that he has returned all the documents. By doing so, Mr. Litt said, the department could back Mr. Trump into a corner.

How the department proceeds, he said, would likely be influenced by whether the department believes the documents in question are highly sensitive.

“They could say to the court that in lieu of seeking a search warrant we’re bringing this to the court,” Mr. Litt said. “The goal is to get Trump to go on the record because he has a history of saying things out of court that he won’t go on the record for.”

The lingering questions of missing documents appear to be part of a larger issue the Justice Department and National Archives are confronting with the Trump White House, which routinely flouted federal record-keeping laws.

Last week, the National Archives told a congressional committee that members of Mr. Trump’s administration had still not turned over all presidential records that exist outside of government coffers.

The agency said that there could be legal consequences for those individuals who fail to return the presidential records, including work-related messages from personal email accounts.

The acting U.S. archivist, Debra Steidel Wall, told the congressional committee that the agency would consult with the Justice Department on whether to “initiate an action for the recovery of records unlawfully removed.”

“While there is no easy way to establish absolute accountability, we do know that we do not have custody of everything we should,” Ms. Wall wrote to Representative Carolyn B. Maloney, Democrat of New York and the chairwoman of the Oversight Committee."
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imagine that, 2ximpeached fpotus o d lied again


NATIONAL ARCHIVES about Obama/HW Bush records:

"Reports that indicate or imply that those Presidential records were in the possession of the former Presidents or their representatives after they left office or that the records were housed in substandard conditions are false.."
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I was always taught in business law that fraudulent conveyance stops this from happening and yet every day someone is moving assets out of the line of fire in daylight.


New York AG wants to bar Trump from moving assets amid civil fraud lawsuit

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NY Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference.
The New York Attorney General’s Office has asked a judge to stop former President Trump from moving his business assets to a new holding company amid a pending civil lawsuit.

Why it matters: Letitia James' office alleged Thursday that Trump's business hasn't guaranteed it will not move assets out of state to "evade legal accountability."

State of play: The civil lawsuit accuses Trump, three of his children and the Trump Organization of widespread fraud.

James' office said the Trump Organization registered a new entity called “Trump Organization II LLC" on Sept. 21, 2022 — the same day that James filed the lawsuit.
What she's saying: “Since we filed this sweeping lawsuit last month, Donald Trump and the Trump Organization have continued those same fraudulent practices and taken measures to evade responsibility,” James said in a statement Thursday. “Today, we are seeking an immediate stop to these actions because Mr. Trump should not get to play by different rules.”

“We will not allow Donald Trump and the Trump Organization to continue this fraud or evade accountability,” James said on Twitter. “No one is above the law."
Zoom in: The attorney general’s office also asked Thursday for an independent party to monitor “any new financial disclosures made to banks and insurers to ensure they are not fraudulent" from Trump and the organization, James said on Twitter.

The office said it has also requested permission to serve former President Trump and Eric Trump through electronic means as “both defendants and their counsels have refused to accept service of the complaints for almost a month."
The big picture: James’ lawsuit includes multiple allegations of fraud against Trump, saying the former president "falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars."


The lawsuit alleges that Trump and the Trump Organization created over 200 "false and misleading valuations of assets on his annual Statements of Financial Condition to defraud financial institutions” from 2011 to 2021, according to her office.
James is seeking to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump — who are all named in the lawsuit — from serving as an officer or directors of a business register in New York state.
Go deeper: Key takeaways from New York AG’s lawsuit against Trump

Editor's note: This headline and story have been updated with additional information.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:46 pm I was always taught in business law that fraudulent conveyance stops this from happening and yet every day someone is moving assets out of the line of fire in daylight.


New York AG wants to bar Trump from moving assets amid civil fraud lawsuit

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NY Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference.
The New York Attorney General’s Office has asked a judge to stop former President Trump from moving his business assets to a new holding company amid a pending civil lawsuit.

Why it matters: Letitia James' office alleged Thursday that Trump's business hasn't guaranteed it will not move assets out of state to "evade legal accountability."

State of play: The civil lawsuit accuses Trump, three of his children and the Trump Organization of widespread fraud.

James' office said the Trump Organization registered a new entity called “Trump Organization II LLC" on Sept. 21, 2022 — the same day that James filed the lawsuit.
What she's saying: “Since we filed this sweeping lawsuit last month, Donald Trump and the Trump Organization have continued those same fraudulent practices and taken measures to evade responsibility,” James said in a statement Thursday. “Today, we are seeking an immediate stop to these actions because Mr. Trump should not get to play by different rules.”

“We will not allow Donald Trump and the Trump Organization to continue this fraud or evade accountability,” James said on Twitter. “No one is above the law."
Zoom in: The attorney general’s office also asked Thursday for an independent party to monitor “any new financial disclosures made to banks and insurers to ensure they are not fraudulent" from Trump and the organization, James said on Twitter.

The office said it has also requested permission to serve former President Trump and Eric Trump through electronic means as “both defendants and their counsels have refused to accept service of the complaints for almost a month."
The big picture: James’ lawsuit includes multiple allegations of fraud against Trump, saying the former president "falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars."


The lawsuit alleges that Trump and the Trump Organization created over 200 "false and misleading valuations of assets on his annual Statements of Financial Condition to defraud financial institutions” from 2011 to 2021, according to her office.
James is seeking to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump — who are all named in the lawsuit — from serving as an officer or directors of a business register in New York state.
Go deeper: Key takeaways from New York AG’s lawsuit against Trump

Editor's note: This headline and story have been updated with additional information.
Fraudulent conveyance law only helps claw back on the improper alienation of the assets. This is James trying to get at least a little in front of it, by essentially asking the court to freeze asset activity and act as a sort of custodian during the pendency of the suit.
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The Supreme Court rejected Donald Trump's effort to get the 100+ Mar-a-Lago docs with classified markings back into the special master review.

No noted dissents.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:46 pm I was always taught in business law that fraudulent conveyance stops this from happening and yet every day someone is moving assets out of the line of fire in daylight.


New York AG wants to bar Trump from moving assets amid civil fraud lawsuit

Herb Scribner
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NY Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference.
The New York Attorney General’s Office has asked a judge to stop former President Trump from moving his business assets to a new holding company amid a pending civil lawsuit.

Why it matters: Letitia James' office alleged Thursday that Trump's business hasn't guaranteed it will not move assets out of state to "evade legal accountability."

State of play: The civil lawsuit accuses Trump, three of his children and the Trump Organization of widespread fraud.

James' office said the Trump Organization registered a new entity called “Trump Organization II LLC" on Sept. 21, 2022 — the same day that James filed the lawsuit.
What she's saying: “Since we filed this sweeping lawsuit last month, Donald Trump and the Trump Organization have continued those same fraudulent practices and taken measures to evade responsibility,” James said in a statement Thursday. “Today, we are seeking an immediate stop to these actions because Mr. Trump should not get to play by different rules.”

“We will not allow Donald Trump and the Trump Organization to continue this fraud or evade accountability,” James said on Twitter. “No one is above the law."
Zoom in: The attorney general’s office also asked Thursday for an independent party to monitor “any new financial disclosures made to banks and insurers to ensure they are not fraudulent" from Trump and the organization, James said on Twitter.

The office said it has also requested permission to serve former President Trump and Eric Trump through electronic means as “both defendants and their counsels have refused to accept service of the complaints for almost a month."
The big picture: James’ lawsuit includes multiple allegations of fraud against Trump, saying the former president "falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars."


The lawsuit alleges that Trump and the Trump Organization created over 200 "false and misleading valuations of assets on his annual Statements of Financial Condition to defraud financial institutions” from 2011 to 2021, according to her office.
James is seeking to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump — who are all named in the lawsuit — from serving as an officer or directors of a business register in New York state.
Go deeper: Key takeaways from New York AG’s lawsuit against Trump

Editor's note: This headline and story have been updated with additional information.
Fraudulent conveyance law only helps claw back on the improper alienation of the assets. This is James trying to get at least a little in front of it, by essentially asking the court to freeze asset activity and act as a sort of custodian during the pendency of the suit.
I get it but while it’s shady but can you really just get a judge to dial up a receiver just on speculation? I’ve had to get some off distressed situations as Craig or before but that’s with actual violation and a remedy that’s legally proscribed. Guess it falls back into that political realm like trying to show bank fraud via PFS inflation.

Then again attorneys will do anything a politician will do. Here’s a perfect example.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... re-getting
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:09 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:46 pm I was always taught in business law that fraudulent conveyance stops this from happening and yet every day someone is moving assets out of the line of fire in daylight.


New York AG wants to bar Trump from moving assets amid civil fraud lawsuit

Herb Scribner
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NY Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference.
The New York Attorney General’s Office has asked a judge to stop former President Trump from moving his business assets to a new holding company amid a pending civil lawsuit.

Why it matters: Letitia James' office alleged Thursday that Trump's business hasn't guaranteed it will not move assets out of state to "evade legal accountability."

State of play: The civil lawsuit accuses Trump, three of his children and the Trump Organization of widespread fraud.

James' office said the Trump Organization registered a new entity called “Trump Organization II LLC" on Sept. 21, 2022 — the same day that James filed the lawsuit.
What she's saying: “Since we filed this sweeping lawsuit last month, Donald Trump and the Trump Organization have continued those same fraudulent practices and taken measures to evade responsibility,” James said in a statement Thursday. “Today, we are seeking an immediate stop to these actions because Mr. Trump should not get to play by different rules.”

“We will not allow Donald Trump and the Trump Organization to continue this fraud or evade accountability,” James said on Twitter. “No one is above the law."
Zoom in: The attorney general’s office also asked Thursday for an independent party to monitor “any new financial disclosures made to banks and insurers to ensure they are not fraudulent" from Trump and the organization, James said on Twitter.

The office said it has also requested permission to serve former President Trump and Eric Trump through electronic means as “both defendants and their counsels have refused to accept service of the complaints for almost a month."
The big picture: James’ lawsuit includes multiple allegations of fraud against Trump, saying the former president "falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars."


The lawsuit alleges that Trump and the Trump Organization created over 200 "false and misleading valuations of assets on his annual Statements of Financial Condition to defraud financial institutions” from 2011 to 2021, according to her office.
James is seeking to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump — who are all named in the lawsuit — from serving as an officer or directors of a business register in New York state.
Go deeper: Key takeaways from New York AG’s lawsuit against Trump

Editor's note: This headline and story have been updated with additional information.
Fraudulent conveyance law only helps claw back on the improper alienation of the assets. This is James trying to get at least a little in front of it, by essentially asking the court to freeze asset activity and act as a sort of custodian during the pendency of the suit.
I get it but while it’s shady but can you really just get a judge to dial up a receiver just on speculation? Guess it falls back into that political realm like trying to show bank fraud via PFS inflation.
No, you would have (the state will have), I think, a pretty heavy evidentiary burden to show a likelihood of success on the merits of the overall lawsuit, and clear irreparable harm, and convince the court that an order effectively freezing or requiring administration of the assets, etc., is in the public interest.
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:13 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:09 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:46 pm I was always taught in business law that fraudulent conveyance stops this from happening and yet every day someone is moving assets out of the line of fire in daylight.


New York AG wants to bar Trump from moving assets amid civil fraud lawsuit

Herb Scribner
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NY Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference.
The New York Attorney General’s Office has asked a judge to stop former President Trump from moving his business assets to a new holding company amid a pending civil lawsuit.

Why it matters: Letitia James' office alleged Thursday that Trump's business hasn't guaranteed it will not move assets out of state to "evade legal accountability."

State of play: The civil lawsuit accuses Trump, three of his children and the Trump Organization of widespread fraud.

James' office said the Trump Organization registered a new entity called “Trump Organization II LLC" on Sept. 21, 2022 — the same day that James filed the lawsuit.
What she's saying: “Since we filed this sweeping lawsuit last month, Donald Trump and the Trump Organization have continued those same fraudulent practices and taken measures to evade responsibility,” James said in a statement Thursday. “Today, we are seeking an immediate stop to these actions because Mr. Trump should not get to play by different rules.”

“We will not allow Donald Trump and the Trump Organization to continue this fraud or evade accountability,” James said on Twitter. “No one is above the law."
Zoom in: The attorney general’s office also asked Thursday for an independent party to monitor “any new financial disclosures made to banks and insurers to ensure they are not fraudulent" from Trump and the organization, James said on Twitter.

The office said it has also requested permission to serve former President Trump and Eric Trump through electronic means as “both defendants and their counsels have refused to accept service of the complaints for almost a month."
The big picture: James’ lawsuit includes multiple allegations of fraud against Trump, saying the former president "falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars."


The lawsuit alleges that Trump and the Trump Organization created over 200 "false and misleading valuations of assets on his annual Statements of Financial Condition to defraud financial institutions” from 2011 to 2021, according to her office.
James is seeking to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump — who are all named in the lawsuit — from serving as an officer or directors of a business register in New York state.
Go deeper: Key takeaways from New York AG’s lawsuit against Trump

Editor's note: This headline and story have been updated with additional information.
Fraudulent conveyance law only helps claw back on the improper alienation of the assets. This is James trying to get at least a little in front of it, by essentially asking the court to freeze asset activity and act as a sort of custodian during the pendency of the suit.
I get it but while it’s shady but can you really just get a judge to dial up a receiver just on speculation? Guess it falls back into that political realm like trying to show bank fraud via PFS inflation.
No, you would have (the state will have), I think, a pretty heavy evidentiary burden to show a likelihood of success on the merits of the overall lawsuit, and clear irreparable harm, and convince the court that an order effectively freezing or requiring administration of the assets, etc., is in the public interest.
So more of a show which is fine just making sure I can tell the difference between legal puffery and intentional actions.
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Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:20 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:13 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 4:09 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:52 pm
Farfromgeneva wrote: Thu Oct 13, 2022 12:46 pm I was always taught in business law that fraudulent conveyance stops this from happening and yet every day someone is moving assets out of the line of fire in daylight.


New York AG wants to bar Trump from moving assets amid civil fraud lawsuit

Herb Scribner
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NY Attorney General Letitia James speaks during a press conference.
The New York Attorney General’s Office has asked a judge to stop former President Trump from moving his business assets to a new holding company amid a pending civil lawsuit.

Why it matters: Letitia James' office alleged Thursday that Trump's business hasn't guaranteed it will not move assets out of state to "evade legal accountability."

State of play: The civil lawsuit accuses Trump, three of his children and the Trump Organization of widespread fraud.

James' office said the Trump Organization registered a new entity called “Trump Organization II LLC" on Sept. 21, 2022 — the same day that James filed the lawsuit.
What she's saying: “Since we filed this sweeping lawsuit last month, Donald Trump and the Trump Organization have continued those same fraudulent practices and taken measures to evade responsibility,” James said in a statement Thursday. “Today, we are seeking an immediate stop to these actions because Mr. Trump should not get to play by different rules.”

“We will not allow Donald Trump and the Trump Organization to continue this fraud or evade accountability,” James said on Twitter. “No one is above the law."
Zoom in: The attorney general’s office also asked Thursday for an independent party to monitor “any new financial disclosures made to banks and insurers to ensure they are not fraudulent" from Trump and the organization, James said on Twitter.

The office said it has also requested permission to serve former President Trump and Eric Trump through electronic means as “both defendants and their counsels have refused to accept service of the complaints for almost a month."
The big picture: James’ lawsuit includes multiple allegations of fraud against Trump, saying the former president "falsely inflated his net worth by billions of dollars."


The lawsuit alleges that Trump and the Trump Organization created over 200 "false and misleading valuations of assets on his annual Statements of Financial Condition to defraud financial institutions” from 2011 to 2021, according to her office.
James is seeking to ban Trump, Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump — who are all named in the lawsuit — from serving as an officer or directors of a business register in New York state.
Go deeper: Key takeaways from New York AG’s lawsuit against Trump

Editor's note: This headline and story have been updated with additional information.
Fraudulent conveyance law only helps claw back on the improper alienation of the assets. This is James trying to get at least a little in front of it, by essentially asking the court to freeze asset activity and act as a sort of custodian during the pendency of the suit.
I get it but while it’s shady but can you really just get a judge to dial up a receiver just on speculation? Guess it falls back into that political realm like trying to show bank fraud via PFS inflation.
No, you would have (the state will have), I think, a pretty heavy evidentiary burden to show a likelihood of success on the merits of the overall lawsuit, and clear irreparable harm, and convince the court that an order effectively freezing or requiring administration of the assets, etc., is in the public interest.
So more of a show which is fine just making sure I can tell the difference between legal puffery and intentional actions.
May or may not be just theater. She might just get this ruling given the mountain of evidence of past frauds.

And if not, the judge might well reconsider if she comes back with evidence that he's taking action to move assets.

The other benefit, more theatrical, is going on the record as trying to ensure that banks and others are being much more demanding about the information Trump provides...she's providing a road map and air cover for them to make the demands.
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The Supreme Court has apparently denied Trump's application for review of the 11th Circuit stay.
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Not a good week for Orange Cheato

*SCOTUS rejects his MAL documents special master appeal without comment
*J6 select committee subpoenas him for documents and testimony regarding his possible role in insurrection
*MEL employee talks to DoJ investigators regarding moving boxes of purloined government documents to office from basement after subpoena
*Short and Patel seen a DC courthouse where Grand Jury is empaneled investigating the January 6 US Capitol attack
*NY AG asks for a injunction to prevent Trump Org from relocating businesses out of NY to avoid civil penalties
*Judge denies Trump request to delay deposition in E. Jean Carroll rape defamation case and also denied request to substitute the U.S. government into the case as a defendant, replacing him, on the grounds that the alleged defamation of E. Jean Carroll occurred when he was president. He didn't help himself by possibly defaming her again this past week.

And Nancy Pelosi would like to punch him out. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Kismet wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:34 am Not a good week for Orange Cheato

*SCOTUS rejects his MAL documents special master appeal without comment
*J6 select committee subpoenas him for documents and testimony regarding his possible role in insurrection
*MEL employee talks to DoJ investigators regarding moving boxes of purloined government documents to office from basement after subpoena
*Short and Patel seen a DC courthouse where Grand Jury is empaneled investigating the January 6 US Capitol attack
*NY AG asks for a injunction to prevent Trump Org from relocating businesses out of NY to avoid civil penalties
*Judge denies Trump request to delay deposition in E. Jean Carroll rape defamation case and also denied request to substitute the U.S. government into the case as a defendant, replacing him, on the grounds that the alleged defamation of E. Jean Carroll occurred when he was president. He didn't help himself by possibly defaming her again this past week.

And Nancy Pelosi would like to punch him out. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wonder what Short and Patel are doing? Was Patel at the command center off the Ellipse?
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:37 am
Kismet wrote: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:34 am Not a good week for Orange Cheato

*SCOTUS rejects his MAL documents special master appeal without comment
*J6 select committee subpoenas him for documents and testimony regarding his possible role in insurrection
*MEL employee talks to DoJ investigators regarding moving boxes of purloined government documents to office from basement after subpoena
*Short and Patel seen a DC courthouse where Grand Jury is empaneled investigating the January 6 US Capitol attack
*NY AG asks for a injunction to prevent Trump Org from relocating businesses out of NY to avoid civil penalties
*Judge denies Trump request to delay deposition in E. Jean Carroll rape defamation case and also denied request to substitute the U.S. government into the case as a defendant, replacing him, on the grounds that the alleged defamation of E. Jean Carroll occurred when he was president. He didn't help himself by possibly defaming her again this past week.

And Nancy Pelosi would like to punch him out. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Wonder what Short and Patel are doing? Was Patel at the command center off the Ellipse?
Apparently, Short appeared before DC Grand Jury yesterday because an Appeals Court refused to delay it because of Cheato's desperate bellowing about Executive Privilege. It might signal that the Appeals Court is NOT likely to side with Trump on EP.. Ditto for Patel.
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Somewhat off topic, but here is Rudy's witness list in the District of Columbia Bar Association professional responsibility hearing:

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1 ... 68/photo/1

Kind of makes you want to attend the hearing. Could play a bingo game on who shows up; who's under their own investigation; etc.
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Re: Orange Duce

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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:13 am Somewhat off topic, but here is Rudy's witness list in the District of Columbia Bar Association professional responsibility hearing:

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1 ... 68/photo/1

Kind of makes you want to attend the hearing. Could play a bingo game on who shows up; who's under their own investigation; etc.
They should charge admission....like a carnival does. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Kismet wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:26 am
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Sat Oct 15, 2022 7:13 am Somewhat off topic, but here is Rudy's witness list in the District of Columbia Bar Association professional responsibility hearing:

https://twitter.com/ZoeTillman/status/1 ... 68/photo/1

Kind of makes you want to attend the hearing. Could play a bingo game on who shows up; who's under their own investigation; etc.
They should charge admission....like a carnival does. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:lol: :lol: It will be a carnival. Today's republiCON party. Con men, grifters, sexual predators and idiots.
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It has been proven a hundred times that the surest way to the heart of any man, black or white, honest or dishonest, is through justice and fairness.

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/technolo ... tleblower/

"Will Wilkerson, then an executive at former president Donald Trump’s start-up Trump Media & Technology Group, was at a Fort Lauderdale, Fla., coffee shop with company co-founder Andy Litinsky last October when Trump called Litinsky with a question: Would he give up some of his shares to Trump’s wife, Melania?

Trump Media, the owner of the fledgling social network Truth Social, had just been boosted by a huge merger agreement and a flood of investment that had made the stake worth millions of dollars. Trump had already been given 90 percent of the company’s shares in exchange for the use of his name and some minor involvement, leaving everyone else to split the rest.

Litinsky tried to brush it off, telling Trump “the gift would have meant a huge tax bill he couldn’t pay,” Wilkerson said in an interview. “Trump didn’t care. He said, ‘Do whatever you need to do.’ ”

Five months later, Litinsky, who first met Trump in 2004 as a contestant on the TV show “The Apprentice,” was abruptly removed from the company’s board. Wilkerson said he believes it was payback for his refusal to turn over a small fortune to the former president’s wife. Litinsky thought so, too, according to an email Wilkerson and his attorneys shared with The Washington Post and the Securities and Exchange Commission. In that email, Litinsky complained that Trump was “retaliating against me” by threatening to “ ‘blow up the company’ if his demands are not met.”

Litinsky did not respond to emails and phone messages. It is unknown whether he still retains his shares.

The email — one of hundreds of previously unreported company messages, documents, photos and audio recordings that Wilkerson has provided to the SEC in connection with a whistleblower submission — reveals a stunning portrait of the animosity that has built up inside Trump Media since its high-profile debut last year.

Promoted as the centerpiece of Trump’s post-presidential business ambitions, the company had marketed itself as a budding media empire, with enterprises planned in social media, video streaming, live events and online payments — a powerful rival not just to Twitter but Disney, Google and Amazon.

But inside the company, Wilkerson said, those plans gave way to bitter infighting, technical failures and a chaotic jockeying for power among Trump allies that undermined its potential and left some employees crying at their desks.

Wilkerson, who was fired from his job Thursday as a senior vice president of operations at the company after he spoke to The Post, filed the whistleblower complaint with the SEC in August. The complaint, drafted by Wilkerson’s attorneys, alleges that the company’s bid to raise money via an investment vehicle known as a special purpose acquisition company, or SPAC, relied on “fraudulent misrepresentations … in violation of federal securities laws.”

The SEC, a federal watchdog agency, allows members of the public to submit tips, complaints and referrals about suspected financial wrongdoing via a document the agency calls a Form TCR. Whistleblowers can be granted confidentiality protections and, in some cases, financial awards. Litinsky did not join in the complaint.

Wilkerson is cooperating with investigations into Trump Media by the SEC and federal prosecutors from the Southern District of New York, said his attorneys, Phil Brewster, Patrick Mincey and Stephen Bell. Among the materials he filed with the SEC’s whistleblower office is a detailed, day-to-day computer log compiled by company co-founder Wes Moss, Litinsky and Wilkerson about their daily company-related activities.

He also provided to The Post a copy of that log as well as numerous other memos, photographs and videos that chronicled the creation of Trump Media. All of the materials Wilkerson shared with The Post were previously provided to government investigators, his attorneys said.

The SEC and the SDNY declined to comment.

In an SEC filing in December, Digital World acknowledged that the SEC was investigating and had sought documents related to the merger with Trump Media. In another filing in June, Digital World said it had become aware that a federal grand jury in the Southern District of New York had issued subpoenas to its board members seeking documents related to its initial public offering filings and “communications with or about multiple individuals.” The investigations, the company said, could “impede or prevent” the merger.

Wilkerson said he was still working for the company on Oct. 6 when his SEC complaint was first reported by the Miami Herald. A Trump Media attorney sent Wilkerson a letter that night suspending him for what the lawyer said was a “blatant violation” of his nondisclosure agreement.

After interviewing Wilkerson alongside his attorneys, The Post on Wednesday sent a detailed list of claims and questions raised by Wilkerson’s allegations to representatives for Trump, Trump Media and the Trump Organization, Trump’s long-running family business.

Only Trump Media responded, saying in a statement that Trump, as company chairman, had hired former congressman Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) as CEO to “create a culture of compliance and build a world-class team to lead Truth Social.” The company said it was already a success, having launched on the Apple and Google app stores, “executed multiple feature updates” and attracted millions of users. “Ignoring these achievements, The Washington Post sent us an inquiry rife with knowingly false and defamatory statements and other concocted psychodramas.” The statement did not directly address any of Wilkerson’s claims.

Trump Media fired Wilkerson on Thursday, citing his “unauthorized disclosures” to The Post. Brewster, his attorney, called the termination “patent retaliation against an SEC whistleblower of the worst kind.”

Digital World Acquisition, the SPAC that is pushing to take Trump Media public, has asked shareholders to give the company more time to finalize the merger, which would unlock hundreds of millions of dollars for Trump Media but is effectively frozen pending the outcomes of the federal investigations. Digital World and its chief executive, Patrick Orlando, did not respond to requests for comment.

The revelations to the SEC from Wilkerson, the most prominent company official to speak publicly about its operations, come at a turbulent time for Trump Media’s business. Investors, discouraged by the halted merger, have sent the SPAC’s share price plunging from a high of $175 to less than $18 on Friday. Roughly 4 million users follow Trump on the company’s sole product, Truth Social — far below his Twitter peak of 88 million. The company has pledged to investors it would surpass 50 million total users by 2024.

In past public statements, Nunes, Orlando and Trump have argued that Trump Media will ultimately prove to be a successful business. But Wilkerson said he expects its internal problems could lead the company to fall apart.

“We weren’t trying to be Trump Org 2.0,” he said. “We always saw Trump as the rocket fuel to send this thing to space. I wanted this to succeed more than anything. … But these are glaring issues, and they’re threatening me now for calling them out. I couldn’t stay quiet anymore.”

Truth Social faces financial peril as worry about Trump’s future grows

‘The Avengers’

Wilkerson, 38, isn’t a traditional Trump critic.

When Litinsky and Moss, another former “Apprentice” contestant, first started discussing the idea of a multipronged Trump media business after Trump’s November 2020 election loss, the men had asked for his help developing the business, Wilkerson said. A former executive producer for Litinsky’s conservative radio show, Wilkerson was excited about monetizing the following of a person he considered a master marketer with 40 years as a political and household name.

Wilkerson shared a photo from that time of the men sketching the original concept on a whiteboard, titled “Trump’s New Media Empire,” that would ultimately compose the company’s public pitch, including new business lines (“Trump Digital Subscription,” “Trump Documentaries”) and a chain of “Trump technologies,” including in servers and online payments.

After Trump supporters stormed the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, and Trump was banned from major social networks, the men drew up plans for a tech platform that would be “resilient to cancel culture and the impact of bias against the right,” according to the daily log Wilkerson shared with The Post and the SEC.

To meet with Trump, the men sought help from another “Apprentice” contestant, Bradford Cohen, a Florida criminal-defense attorney who represented two rappers, Lil Wayne and Kodak Black, to whom Trump had granted clemency on his final day in the White House.

In late January, three weeks after the riot, Cohen, Litinsky and Moss met with Trump at Mar-a-Lago, his opulent home and club in Palm Beach, Fla., to discuss the idea. Over cheeseburgers, Diet Cokes and ice cream, the men offered to build Trump a media company that he would own 90 percent of without putting in any of his own money, Wilkerson said. He was interested, and Trump Media was born. Cohen and Moss did not respond to requests for comment.

Raising money, however, proved to be a major challenge. The investment bankers they called rejected them because of fears over Trump’s post-election behavior, Wilkerson said. So they started cold-calling SPACs. Known as “blank-check companies,” SPACs sell shares to investors before merging with a private company, allowing the combined business to make money on the stock market without abiding by the traditional transparency requirements of a public listing.

They ultimately found a willing partner in Orlando, a financier in Miami who had recently launched a SPAC, Benessere Capital Acquisition, with $100 million in its coffers. In late February, Orlando, Wilkerson and other Trump allies outlined the vision for Trump in a Mar-a-Lago dining hall, taking photos to remember the moment.

“We viewed ourselves at the time as the Avengers,” Wilkerson said. “We were an unstoppable force.”

‘djt is pissed’

The next several months were a frantic rush to meet with potential partners, hire workers and build the business, Wilkerson said. The daily logbook shows the men flying to meetings with conservative media figures and exchanging proposals at bars, golf clubhouses and pizza joints. The team, Wilkerson said, also gave Trump regular in-person updates at Mar-a-Lago, Trump Tower and his golf club in Bedminster Township, N.J.

But as the company became more legitimate, it also started running into problems. Trump’s umbrella company, the Trump Organization, disputed a long-signed agreement between the start-up and Trump himself, demanding more control over how Trump’s likeness would be used, Wilkerson said. And Trump’s adult sons — Donald Jr. and Eric — began asking for large stakes in the company, Wilkerson said, even though they had been almost entirely uninvolved. Representatives for the Trump family business did not respond to requests for comment.

“They were coming in and asking for a handout,” Wilkerson said. “They had no bearing in this company … and they were taking equity away from hard-working individuals.”

Orlando brought his own issues. In June 2021, he’d raised tensions when he sent Trump a birthday letter in which he devoted hundreds of words to Trump’s “thought leadership” and “quick and genius guidance” during a recent meeting discussing the company’s name and logo.

“I was unaware of the extent of your brilliance,” Orlando had written. “On your birthday, my only wish is that you realize how proud we are of your successes to date.” The letter agitated the co-founders, Wilkerson said, who found it mawkish and overly familiar.

Moss and Litinsky were further unnerved when Orlando routed roughly $8 million into Trump Media, via an unknown group called the ES Family Trust, but refused to say where it had come from, Wilkerson said. Their previous investments had come from people they knew, but this money appeared to have been routed from a bank in the Caribbean island of Dominica through a cryptocurrency company, according to wire transfer and financial documents from the transaction that Wilkerson shared with The Post and the SEC. Digital World and Orlando did not respond to requests for information about the transaction or other reporting in this article.

When Orlando had first gotten involved, he’d suggested merging Trump Media with Benessere, the already-public SPAC. But Orlando also began suggesting a second option, Wilkerson said: one of Orlando’s newer SPACs, Digital World, that had yet to be launched but could raise much more money. In his complaint to the SEC, Wilkerson said the original SPAC “could not sufficiently capitalize [Trump Media] at a valuation that was acceptable” to Trump and the company’s leaders, and that it would also “result in Orlando making less money compared to substituting Orlando’s future SPAC.”

Digital World’s registration form, filed with the SEC in May 2021 and signed by Orlando, said the SPAC and its representatives had not “initiated any substantive discussions, directly or indirectly, with any business combination target.” But in Wilkerson’s complaint, he claims that Digital World and Trump Media had “substantive communications” regarding a merger that he alleged violated SEC rules.

On April 14, 2021, Moss and Litinsky learned in a meeting with Orlando that the Benessere deal was no longer viable but that Digital World could be an option, Wilkerson said; an entry in the computer log notes that day that “the BENE deal is OFF!!!!”

After leaving the meeting, Wilkerson said, the men were so stunned by the suggestion of something they believed to be improper that they wondered whether it was a government setup or if Orlando had been wearing a secret recording device. The log quotes Litinsky in calling it the “roughest day so far” and says, “Patrick [Orlando] pitches [us] plan b, I get scared, is he wearing a wire?”

The men arranged a brief follow-up meeting with Orlando shortly after — this time, to record their conversation with him, during which they stated their concerns. “We can only engage in discussions after they’re public. That’s the rule,” Litinsky can be heard saying on the recording, a copy of which Wilkerson shared with The Post and the SEC.

Orlando responded, “That’s exactly the rules we have to play by.” He then added, “We have to be very smart. Obviously, we can talk hypothetically about if there were another vehicle,” at which point Litinsky cuts him off. Later, Orlando says, “We’ll make some magic happen.” The men exchange some more pleasantries before parting ways.

Three months later, in late July, an entry in the log said Moss eventually talked to “djt on phone to discuss potential plan b.”

The Post asked three SPAC experts about whether a SPAC’s leadership knowing its target merger partner, and not disclosing it before filing its initial public offering document, known as a Form S-1, would violate SEC rules.

John Coates, a former acting director of the SEC’s corporate finance division, told The Post, “If the identity of a merger partner is known before a Form S-1 is filed and goes effective, it must be disclosed, whether it’s a SPAC or not. For a SPAC, a known merger partner is even more obviously material to investors.”

Michael Klausner, a Stanford University law professor, said it would violate SEC regulations and argued that “a failure to disclose the SPAC’s plans would be an end-around the IPO rules.”

Michael Ohlrogge, a New York University law professor, said the failure to tell investors could violate the SEC’s rules against material misstatements and omissions, but that there can be gray areas in instances where a sponsor runs multiple SPACs and targets a company with one SPAC after having seriously considered it with another. For example, in one instance involving a maritime shipping company, he said, the SEC halted its review of the SPAC’s filings but eventually allowed the merger to proceed.

Digital World held its initial public offering in September 2021 and announced its plan to merge with Trump Media one month later. The SPAC ultimately raised roughly $300 million, not including a separate $1 billion bundle — known as a “private investment in public equity,” or PIPE — from an unidentified group of investors set to pay out once the merger is complete.

In one video Wilkerson shared from October 2021, Orlando can be seen standing in the Trump Media office toasting with a large bottle of Veuve Clicquot champagne.

“I really want to build a $100 billion company. I think this is the team to do it,” he said. “Andy and Wes and the entire team … I’m so happy to be working with you guys. We’re going to see a lot of each other for decades to come.”

The log cites daily notes of Moss, Litinsky and Wilkerson strategizing how to handle the Trump family’s growing interest in the business’s rising fortunes; one person advised them, for instance, that Trump Jr. “needs a bedtime story and some love,” an entry shows.

The timeline entries also show the men growing accustomed to dealing with Trump’s sudden reversals and rage. On Sept. 23, 2021, the log records cite Litinsky saying, “President trump calls me in morning to yell at me because don jr is upset.” The next day, “Don jr calls Wes and yells at him.” On Oct. 12, “djt calls in crazy mood and he tries to renegotiate the entire deal … don jr walks in room and wants to get paid.” On Oct. 30: “djt is pissed.”

Tensions also began to grow inside the company over who was in control. Litinsky, Moss and Wilkerson, eager to hire a point person to handle financial marketing and public scrutiny, had in November gotten dinner at an Atlanta steakhouse with then-Rep. Nunes, a Trump loyalist and prominent Republican critic of Silicon Valley, Wilkerson said. Two months later, Nunes resigned from Congress to become the company’s CEO with Trump and the co-founders’ support.

Company filings show Nunes is paid a base salary of $750,000 a year that could increase to $1 million in the second year, plus bonuses and equity. He had no prior experience leading a tech company.

Wilkerson has expressed sharply critical views of Nunes’s leadership of the company. He told The Post that, in Nunes’s first days at the office, Nunes began exhorting workers to come in early and stay late and berating company officials over what he saw as flawed decision-making. Wilkerson added that he believed this fueled acrimony among the company’s more established employees.

He began “bringing in a camp of people who were Nunes loyalists,” Wilkerson said, “to the point where it became very fractious and hampered our ability to be productive.”

A small team of developers raced to build Truth Social from the company’s WeWork office floor in Atlanta, Wilkerson said. In February, shortly before it opened to the public, Wilkerson published the first post, or “truth,” to Trump’s profile: “Get Ready! Your favorite President will see you soon!” In a video he shared with The Post, Wilkerson can be shown hitting the button and saying, “History has been made.”

But days later, the site had an embarrassing launch, including a 13-hour outage and an overwhelming waiting list for new accounts. Wilkerson said many of the issues had been the fault of third-party vendors, including the video site Rumble, which he said had been delayed in preparing server hardware for the site’s debut.

Rumble spokesman Brian Doherty denied his company bore any responsibility for Truth Social’s difficult launch. Truth Social, he said, has run fully off Rumble’s servers since April and the company looks “forward to continuing to support” Trump Media.

In March, Wilkerson said, the company underwent a major shake-up. The board of directors, once composed of Trump, Litinsky and Moss, dropped Litinsky and added Nunes, Trump Jr. and a former Nunes aide, Kash Patel. Within days, the company’s chiefs of technology, product development and legal affairs resigned. Wilkerson said he remembers some other employees tearfully processing the sudden upheaval.

“It was such a violent removal of the founders of this thing,” he said. “It was a very jarring experience, and it set this company on a path where it may not be able to be redeemed.”

‘What value does the company have?’

Truth Social’s website has stabilized, and Trump has taken to using it as his primary online megaphone. But the site’s audience remains tiny compared with major social networks and — unlike its original proposal, promising a “big tent” for all kinds of political thought — it has been criticized for featuring largely pro-Trump comments and memes. Elon Musk, Twitter’s likely next owner and the world’s richest man, told the Financial Times last week that Truth Social is “a right-wing echo chamber” that “might as well be called Trumpet.”

The Digital World’s merger freeze also has thrown the company’s future into doubt. The company originally promised to close the merger by last month, but Orlando has since begun asking shareholders to vote to push back the deadline in hopes of resolving the federal investigations and sealing the deal.

Digital World — with help from its sponsor, Arc Capital, an investment firm based in Shanghai — has paid roughly $3 million to give itself until Dec. 8 to finish the merger. The company has delayed shareholder meetings three times, including earlier this week, without announcing whether it has received approval for an extension from the required 65 percent of shareholders.

The company has warned that a failed vote could force it to liquidate, without Trump Media pocketing any of the money it had raised. In an SEC filing last month, Digital World said investors had sent termination notices between Sept. 19 and 23, pulling out roughly $138 million from the PIPE.

The company, which has submitted SEC filings suggesting it has “enough operating capital” to last “until at least next spring,” recently changed its headquarters address from an office in Miami’s upscale Brickell financial district to a mailbox in a UPS Store in the Miami neighborhood of Coconut Grove.

Trump says he won’t rejoin Twitter. Some advisers don’t believe him.

Truth Social’s hallmark — Trump’s involvement — has been undermined by the possibility that a Musk-owned Twitter could restore Trump’s account. Trump has insisted he would not rejoin Twitter even if he is reinstated, though some Trump advisers told The Post they think he wouldn’t be able to resist.

Trump has also undermined confidence in the deal, saying in a Truth Social post last month that he may just end up skipping out on the SPAC deal and taking the venture private because he’s “really rich.”

“If he takes his bat and his ball and goes home, what value does the company have at that point?” Wilkerson said.

Wilkerson said he hopes that by speaking out he will help protect the company’s shareholders from possible harm. His attorneys said the information he has shared should shield him as a protected whistleblower from company retaliation, and they have questioned the terms of Trump Media’s nondisclosure agreement.

“It is drafted to silence him, to prevent him from talking, and to punish him if he does so,” his attorney Phil Brewster said."
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Re: Orange Duce

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Anyone who bought above $10 is a sucker. He should know better than playing with a public company.

I bet they did pocket some money for “fee based services rendered” out of the capital raised.
Harvard University, out
University of Utah, in

I am going to get a 4.0 in damage.

(Afan jealous he didn’t do this first)
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