All Things Russia & Ukraine

[Kismet]

It's the '60's dummy. It's a mess for ALL of us.

No, it's not. 60's we had boots in Vietnam, and were still doing duck and cover drills.

What did Obama do about Putin ?

Offered Putin peace and a chance to join the 1st world. Old Salt. And you would have understood that just fine if Obama was a Republican.

But he wasn't, so Obama was bad, and Trump was awesome, and shocker, Biden is bad, too.

How'd all that work out for Putin, OS? How's Russia's GDP, Old Salt, and how many times did I point that out to you? Putin could have lobbied Obama as key trading partner when ol' Hillary showed up.

What did he do instead? He blew a bunch of money on stupid military expenses that PLAINLY haven't worked out. Remember when I asked you about Putin's pointless "bases" in Syria? How helpful are those bases now?

I tried to tell you all of this....but you didn't want to hear it. Why? Because when you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

The Soviet empire went broke, OS. It had NOTHING to do with military victories or losses. And Putin missed that memo.

I'll ask the same question now as I did when Putin was rattling his saber: Would you invest money or trade in Russia?

And when you come back with a big fat "no", you'll realize how F'ed Russia is after 20 years of intermittent Putin leadership.

Obama now looks brilliant.....and the people of Russia will now pay the price for the road not taken by Putin. But boy, Putin sure showed that Democrat Hillary what was what, right OS?

That all makes sense to Americans, given our history & perspective.
It does not take root with the Russian people, given their history & perspective.
All your prattle about Russia's GDP did not prevent them from invading Ukraine,
& they're still awash in cash from energy sales at crisis prices.
How's your 401k doing ? How 'bout the price of your supplies & shipping ?
This war is producing a global recession, hurting Europe & the US a lot more than Russia.
You think this is all a joke that validates your liberal schoolboy reading of history.
Putin is writing history, in blood, from a different perspective.
Keep laughing, you will need a morbid sense of humor before this is over.
Russia is mobilizing, full scale, for the first time since WW II. We minimize that at our own peril.
Russia is mobilizing for war & to you, it's just a stupid political debate.
It's not just Putin, it's the entire Russian nation.

It seems that there are more than a few upset Russians right now (and even disregard those that have fallen out of windows or down flights of stairs.) - How do you explain the volume of male Russians trying to exit their country?

Like your GOP pals using Russian video footage to roll out their "American" agenda

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/house-re ... 04bab1?hgm

“A spokesperson for House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) did not immediately respond to a request for comment as to why GOP leaders rolled out their plan for America with a video featuring stock footage from Russia.”


As for Russian "mobilization" what makes you think they will do any better than the first team in terms of realizing objectives? How long would they last vs. USA and NATO if it came to that? On the other hand, a sobering assessment Op-Ed by Peggy Noonan in the WSJ that more aligns with your view.

https://wallstreetjournal-ny.newsmemory ... a2_1348620

that said - Ramzan Kadyrov refusing to launch the mobilization in Chechnya under his rule. Might tell you something is going on and it's not good for Vlad.

"liberal schoolboy"? You should apply to RT as a commentator based upon your overt contempt of people with whom you disagree. As a former Naval officer, would have thought you better than this

[a fan]

That all makes sense to Americans, given our history & perspective.
It does not take root with the Russian people, given their history & perspective.

You think the Russian people are a monolith? Young Russians don't understand that Putin is yet another ***hole Russian fascist that's kept the Russian people away from the 1st world for over 100 years now?

All your prattle about Russia's GDP did not prevent them from invading Ukraine

Never said it would----you're putting words in my mouth, my man. Should I follow your lead and throw a hissy fit?

What I said was that they couldn't afford to do what they were trying to do.

...they're still awash in cash from energy sales at crisis prices.

Sure they are, OS. What was Russia's GDP when Putin took office? And what's it at now? And before the invasion, how many military assets did Russia have?

And how many do they have now, OS? Want me to post a pic of a Russian tank burned to a crisp?

How's your 401k doing ? How 'bout the price of your supplies & shipping ?

Good. It's killing my competitors. I'm doing great, thank you for asking. That's what happens when you spend your career making your operations more financially and environmentally stable. When energy prices go up? My competitors (most of them), who don't believe in such things, take it in the pants.

This war is producing a global recession, hurting Europe & the US a lot more than Russia.

Riiiiiight. Russia is thumbs up awesome right now, OS. What's your 20 year plan for Russia? Their armies are in tatters. How many missiles do they have left, OS.

You think this is all a joke that validates your liberal schoolboy reading of history.

Insults?



Alright. I typed out my insult. And deleted it. Out of my system now and we can move on.

Putin is writing history, in blood, from a different perspective.

No. He isn't. And I have no idea why it is that you keep projecting this nonsense on to Putin. This has nothing to do with Russian history.

Wait----I'm wrong: it has to do with Russian history. And by that I mean this is yet another Russian Fascist leader that simply trying to hold on to power. That's it. That's all this is about. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Anything else is overcomplicating what Putin has done....trying to put a square peg in a round hole, attempting to apply rationality to Putin's choices.

Keep laughing, you will need a morbid sense of humor before this is over.
Russia is mobilizing, full scale, for the first time since WW II. We minimize that at our own peril.
Russia is mobilizing for war & to you, it's just a stupid political debate.

There you go again, putting words in my mouth. I never said Putin wasn't dangerous. Or couldn't use nukes. Or couldn't kill hundreds of thousands of people if he chose to do so. I also never said I wasn't terrified of what Putin might do. I am indeed, scared.

What I said was---how does Putin expect to hold whatever territory he has gained?

And those piles of rubble as Putin hits civilian infrastructure? What money do you think Putin has to fix that damage, assuming he takes over that land?

The hilarious thing is: you see the light, and understand money when we're discussing America sending money to Ukraine. You think we can't spare that money. Yet at the same time? You think Putin is just rolling in cash, and invading Ukraine costs Putin nothing.

[MDlaxfan76]

Regarding young people in Russia, my son remains close to many colleagues and students still there, as well as those who had already left during the past 6 months.

They're freaked, whether it's them getting called up or their fathers...for many this is last straw, gotta get out...if they still can.

Huge brain drain, and remaining families are flipping out up and down the economic spectrum.

Salty consumes too much RT and other Russian propaganda.

Those being conscripted, now from the middle class, educated in cities, are mostly with zero prior training and they're going to get two weeks of "training" and then thrown into the meat grinder. They don't want to fight, much less die...many have heard of the war crimes that have been committed by the Russian army...and they know that the Ukrainians don't see them as "liberators"...they know they aren't "Nazis". This isn't just the uneducated rural any more.

My prediction?
The "friendly fire" and "fragging" experienced in armies with low morale will be very, very high.
The equipment sabotage that the Russian army experienced in the early days will be nothing compared to what's going to happen with this group of conscripts.

The big question, IMO, is whether the current military brass will resist orders to use WMD. I think the orders will happen.

[cradleandshoot]

That all makes sense to Americans, given our history & perspective.
It does not take root with the Russian people, given their history & perspective.

You think the Russian people are a monolith? Young Russians don't understand that Putin is yet another ***hole Russian fascist that's kept the Russian people away from the 1st world for over 100 years now?

All your prattle about Russia's GDP did not prevent them from invading Ukraine

Never said it would----you're putting words in my mouth, my man. Should I follow your lead and throw a hissy fit?

What I said was that they couldn't afford to do what they were trying to do.

...they're still awash in cash from energy sales at crisis prices.

Sure they are, OS. What was Russia's GDP when Putin took office? And what's it at now? And before the invasion, how many military assets did Russia have?

And how many do they have now, OS? Want me to post a pic of a Russian tank burned to a crisp?

How's your 401k doing ? How 'bout the price of your supplies & shipping ?

Good. It's killing my competitors. I'm doing great, thank you for asking. That's what happens when you spend your career making your operations more financially and environmentally stable. When energy prices go up? My competitors (most of them), who don't believe in such things, take it in the pants.

This war is producing a global recession, hurting Europe & the US a lot more than Russia.

Riiiiiight. Russia is thumbs up awesome right now, OS. What's your 20 year plan for Russia? Their armies are in tatters. How many missiles do they have left, OS.

You think this is all a joke that validates your liberal schoolboy reading of history.

Insults?



Alright. I typed out my insult. And deleted it. Out of my system now and we can move on.

Putin is writing history, in blood, from a different perspective.

No. He isn't. And I have no idea why it is that you keep projecting this nonsense on to Putin. This has nothing to do with Russian history.

Wait----I'm wrong: it has to do with Russian history. And by that I mean this is yet another Russian Fascist leader that simply trying to hold on to power. That's it. That's all this is about. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Anything else is overcomplicating what Putin has done....trying to put a square peg in a round hole, attempting to apply rationality to Putin's choices.

Keep laughing, you will need a morbid sense of humor before this is over.
Russia is mobilizing, full scale, for the first time since WW II. We minimize that at our own peril.
Russia is mobilizing for war & to you, it's just a stupid political debate.

There you go again, putting words in my mouth. I never said Putin wasn't dangerous. Or couldn't use nukes. Or couldn't kill hundreds of thousands of people if he chose to do so. I also never said I wasn't terrified of what Putin might do. I am indeed, scared.

What I said was---how does Putin expect to hold whatever territory he has gained?

And those piles of rubble as Putin hits civilian infrastructure? What money do you think Putin has to fix that damage, assuming he takes over that land?

The hilarious thing is: you see the light, and understand money when we're discussing America sending money to Ukraine. You think we can't spare that money. Yet at the same time? You think Putin is just rolling in cash, and invading Ukraine costs Putin nothing.

I guess these modern day Russians should be grateful they were not flipping off Stalin. Ole Joe would have dragged their their asses out into the middle of nowhere and executed them with no remorse. Vlad is nothing like his hero. Of course the jury is still out as to how Putin will deal with these rebellious rascals. If he decides to go Stalin on their asses it will get really ugly really quick. Maybe the Southern Poverty Law Center can talk some sense into Vlad...

[old salt]

The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

[DocBarrister]

The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

Russia must lose this war.

Russia must be humiliated in defeat.

Russia must suffer for a long time.

Appeasement, which is precisely what you are proposing, will not stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will end Putin.

DocBarrister

[old salt]

The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

Russia must lose this war.

Russia must be humiliated in defeat.

Russia must suffer for a long time.

Appeasement, which is precisely what you are proposing, will not stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will end Putin.

DocBarrister

Insanity. Not worth the risk, or even the cost of "victory".

[NattyBohChamps04]

The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

The Russians, poor & country kids, are now fighting against those who would put them in harms way.

Zelensky has no difficulty recruiting right now. Foreign fighters are eagerly joining.

This is a senseless war. Prevented by Russia alone. Funded by Russia to try and overthrow an entire country, not just Crimea and its supply routes, which belong to another country.

Russian occupied countries and territories have longer memories than Soviet or Empirical Russia. They kept their centuries to millenia history of linguistic, ethnic and historical distinctiveness intact despite soviet attempts to annihilate all of the above.

Russia has brought us to the brink of nuclear war. For what vital Russian interest? None. They threaten first. We don/t

Biden's administration predicted months in advance what Putin would do. People like you laughed in his face.

[DocBarrister]

The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

Russia must lose this war.

Russia must be humiliated in defeat.

Russia must suffer for a long time.

Appeasement, which is precisely what you are proposing, will not stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will end Putin.

DocBarrister

Insanity. Not worth the risk, or even the cost of "victory".

I’m sure Neville Chamberlain thought the same.

DocBarrister

[old salt]

Biden's administration predicted months in advance what Putin would do. People like you laughed in his face.

Show us my words to back that up. I never dismissed or minimized the Russian buildup to invasion. I took it more seriously than most.

[old salt]

The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

Russia must lose this war.

Russia must be humiliated in defeat.

Russia must suffer for a long time.

Appeasement, which is precisely what you are proposing, will not stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will end Putin.

DocBarrister

Insanity. Not worth the risk, or even the cost of "victory".

I’m sure Neville Chamberlain thought the same.

DocBarrister

That's a historically stupid analogy. In 1939, there was no NATO.
We've been reinforcing NATO's E flank since 2014 & preparing Ukraine to defend themselves.
We have already guaranteed Ukraine's national survival. They may lose some territory they failed to defend.
They had over 20 years to prepare for their own defense & failed to do so.

[Farfromgeneva]

That all makes sense to Americans, given our history & perspective.
It does not take root with the Russian people, given their history & perspective.

You think the Russian people are a monolith? Young Russians don't understand that Putin is yet another ***hole Russian fascist that's kept the Russian people away from the 1st world for over 100 years now?

All your prattle about Russia's GDP did not prevent them from invading Ukraine

Never said it would----you're putting words in my mouth, my man. Should I follow your lead and throw a hissy fit?

What I said was that they couldn't afford to do what they were trying to do.

...they're still awash in cash from energy sales at crisis prices.

Sure they are, OS. What was Russia's GDP when Putin took office? And what's it at now? And before the invasion, how many military assets did Russia have?

And how many do they have now, OS? Want me to post a pic of a Russian tank burned to a crisp?

How's your 401k doing ? How 'bout the price of your supplies & shipping ?

Good. It's killing my competitors. I'm doing great, thank you for asking. That's what happens when you spend your career making your operations more financially and environmentally stable. When energy prices go up? My competitors (most of them), who don't believe in such things, take it in the pants.

This war is producing a global recession, hurting Europe & the US a lot more than Russia.

Riiiiiight. Russia is thumbs up awesome right now, OS. What's your 20 year plan for Russia? Their armies are in tatters. How many missiles do they have left, OS.

You think this is all a joke that validates your liberal schoolboy reading of history.

Insults?



Alright. I typed out my insult. And deleted it. Out of my system now and we can move on.

Putin is writing history, in blood, from a different perspective.

No. He isn't. And I have no idea why it is that you keep projecting this nonsense on to Putin. This has nothing to do with Russian history.

Wait----I'm wrong: it has to do with Russian history. And by that I mean this is yet another Russian Fascist leader that simply trying to hold on to power. That's it. That's all this is about. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Anything else is overcomplicating what Putin has done....trying to put a square peg in a round hole, attempting to apply rationality to Putin's choices.

Keep laughing, you will need a morbid sense of humor before this is over.
Russia is mobilizing, full scale, for the first time since WW II. We minimize that at our own peril.
Russia is mobilizing for war & to you, it's just a stupid political debate.

There you go again, putting words in my mouth. I never said Putin wasn't dangerous. Or couldn't use nukes. Or couldn't kill hundreds of thousands of people if he chose to do so. I also never said I wasn't terrified of what Putin might do. I am indeed, scared.

What I said was---how does Putin expect to hold whatever territory he has gained?

And those piles of rubble as Putin hits civilian infrastructure? What money do you think Putin has to fix that damage, assuming he takes over that land?

The hilarious thing is: you see the light, and understand money when we're discussing America sending money to Ukraine. You think we can't spare that money. Yet at the same time? You think Putin is just rolling in cash, and invading Ukraine costs Putin nothing.

I guess these modern day Russians should be grateful they were not flipping off Stalin. Ole Joe would have dragged their their asses out into the middle of nowhere and executed them with no remorse. Vlad is nothing like his hero. Of course the jury is still out as to how Putin will deal with these rebellious rascals. If he decides to go Stalin on their asses it will get really ugly really quick. Maybe the Southern Poverty Law Center can talk some sense into Vlad...

Maybe we should send all the out of touch old rambos over there since they act like they have all the answers when in fact their frightened little girls about their own lives and futures. Fear is a powerful tool in international relations apparently…

[Essexfenwick]

Once Putin felt safe to invade when Trump wasn’t running things he did. Did it under Obama too. Trump is the greatest president in 40 years so we were lucky for 4 years to have that period of peace and high stock markets.

Putin isn’t going to “lose”. Any logical person knew that from the beginning. It’s either victory or a tie with the world all dead.

[MDlaxfan76]

The Russians who do the fighting & dying are not the city kids & the middle class kids.
Just like in the US, they're the poor kids & the country kids.
Zelensky had to trick his conscripts into staying home by assuring them there would be no invasion,
then closing the border to keep military age males from departing.
This is a senseless war, causing a global recession, being funded by US taxpayers, to determine who controls Crimea & the corridor connecting it to Mother Russia & guaranteeing Russian access to the Black Sea. It's as senseless as the last CrImean War was.
Russians have long memories. They won't soon forget the part the US is playing in generating their casualties.
Our support of our Ukrainian proxies has brought us to the brink of nuclear war with Russia, ...for what vital US interest ?
None of us are qualified to predict what Putin will do. Our leaders & their advisors don't have a reassuring track record in that regard.

Russia must lose this war.

Russia must be humiliated in defeat.

Russia must suffer for a long time.

Appeasement, which is precisely what you are proposing, will not stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will stop Putin’s wars.

Only a complete defeat of Russia will end Putin.

DocBarrister

Insanity. Not worth the risk, or even the cost of "victory".

I’m sure Neville Chamberlain thought the same.

DocBarrister

That's a historically stupid analogy. In 1939, there was no NATO.
We've been reinforcing NATO's E flank since 2014 & preparing Ukraine to defend themselves.
We have already guaranteed Ukraine's national survival. They may lose some territory they failed to defend.
They had over 20 years to prepare for their own defense & failed to do so.

Yup, you've said it again...it's Ukraine's fault.

and NATO's...

The Russians have long memories...and Ukraine isn't a sovereign country...Russia is...

got it.

[Essexfenwick]

War in Europe over Ukraine is not in America’s or the worlds interest. This is end of the world territory and the trigger point for that is well past corrupt and unaffiliated Ukraine.

[a fan]

Once Putin felt safe to invade when Trump wasn’t running things he did.

Putin isn’t going to “lose”. Any logical person knew that from the beginning. It’s either victory or a tie with the world all dead.

You understand that these two statements don't go together, right? Now remember, Trump is the guy who had the slogan "America First". I'm assuming you know what that slogan meant, yeah?

To wit: what is you think Trump would have done if Putin had invaded Ukraine on his watch?

Did it under Obama too.

No. He didn't. Obama and Democrats are weak, right? So explain why Putin didn't simply invade Ukraine when Obama was in charge.

Did he lose the key fob for his tank?

[a fan]

War in Europe over Ukraine is not in America’s or the worlds interest. This is end of the world territory and the trigger point for that is well past corrupt and unaffiliated Ukraine.

You could say the exact same thing about Charlie Wilson's War. You remember that proxy war, right?

[Essexfenwick]

Once Putin felt safe to invade when Trump wasn’t running things he did.

Putin isn’t going to “lose”. Any logical person knew that from the beginning. It’s either victory or a tie with the world all dead.

You understand that these two statements don't go together, right? Now remember, Trump is the guy who had the slogan "America First". I'm assuming you know what that slogan meant, yeah?

To wit: what is you think Trump would have done if Putin had invaded Ukraine on his watch?

Did it under Obama too.

No. He didn't. Obama and Democrats are weak, right? So explain why Putin didn't simply invade Ukraine when Obama was in charge.

Did he lose the key fob for his tank?

He invaded Georgia under Obama.

[a fan]

Once Putin felt safe to invade when Trump wasn’t running things he did.

Putin isn’t going to “lose”. Any logical person knew that from the beginning. It’s either victory or a tie with the world all dead.

You understand that these two statements don't go together, right? Now remember, Trump is the guy who had the slogan "America First". I'm assuming you know what that slogan meant, yeah?

To wit: what is you think Trump would have done if Putin had invaded Ukraine on his watch?

Did it under Obama too.

No. He didn't. Obama and Democrats are weak, right? So explain why Putin didn't simply invade Ukraine when Obama was in charge.

Did he lose the key fob for his tank?

He invaded Georgia under Obama.

Yeah, that's not what I asked. Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine under Obama?

And what would Trump have done had Putin invaded? Pretty simple questions, Essex.

[Essexfenwick]

Once Putin felt safe to invade when Trump wasn’t running things he did.

Putin isn’t going to “lose”. Any logical person knew that from the beginning. It’s either victory or a tie with the world all dead.

You understand that these two statements don't go together, right? Now remember, Trump is the guy who had the slogan "America First". I'm assuming you know what that slogan meant, yeah?

To wit: what is you think Trump would have done if Putin had invaded Ukraine on his watch?

Did it under Obama too.

No. He didn't. Obama and Democrats are weak, right? So explain why Putin didn't simply invade Ukraine when Obama was in charge.

Did he lose the key fob for his tank?

He invaded Georgia under Obama.

Yeah, that's not what I asked. Why didn't Putin invade Ukraine under Obama?

And what would Trump have done had Putin invaded? Pretty simple questions, Essex.

Trump cuts things off before they happen with American competence. But he’s a generational phenomenon. Quick, forward thinking and decisive … a rare talent. We have a vegetable in charge now so deterioration on all fronts is occurring.