Is America a racist nation?

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Did you watch this one?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... 7f45191922

Hell it looks like you slimy ass democrats have your own little band of hatemongers among you. 8-)
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DMac wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:08 am Did you watch this one?
I had many of the same thoughts and feelings as you as I watched all three episodes.

The summarization portion of the third episode provides a strong warning for our future. Our immigration policies and laws remain an effing mess. I was particularly struck by the commentary made about the German citizens that allowed, and even participated in the horrors, when a photo showed a group of ordinary citizens at a pro-government rally, and the commentator stated that the people were (sic) “your neighbors, your co-workers, the people who worked where you shopped….”

You don’t have to be a genius to see the inference.
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“We were founded on a very basic double standard. This country was founded by slave owners who wanted to be free.”

The mighty GEORGE CARLIN.

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Nick Fuentes says the only hope for America is for there to be a "white uprising" that then disbands Congress and installs Trump as a dictator: "Elect Trump one more time and then stop having elections."

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/stat ... 2018674690

We’re not Nazis. We just want to turn America into a white ethnostate led by an all-powerful dictator who hates Jews.
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Enter 2nd amendment and all of its current complications.
People of all colors and religions have guns in this country.
Civil War, the sequel.
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Kismet wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:25 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:29 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:02 pmThe airfield where he was stationed still exists, along with a few of the WWII era buildings and Quonset huts, as a private airport on the outskirts of Attleboro England, with a museum dedicated to his bomber group. A trip there is on my bucket list.
Give 'em hell 453rd...
Actors Jimmy Stewart (pilot and ops officer) and Walter Matthau (tailgunner) were both in the 453rd.

Check out The Wild Blue by Stephen Ambrose and certainly the great 1949 war film Twelve O'Clock High.

Lastly, in the Burns film, they mentioned that USA alone lost 51,000 people (aircrews) during the war bombing Germany and mainland Europe both in daylight and nighttime.
Kismet, you’re about to regret providing that extra info, as it provides me the same opportunity. Apologies in advance for steering this away from its actual topic.

Stewart was group ops officer from Mar 31 - Jul 1, 1944. My dad and the rest of his crew (initial bomb crews trained together and then flew their new plane to their assignment) arrived at the group on June 4, 1944. They flew 35 missions, remarkably without injury to any of their crew. He and his crew returned to the US by ship on Dec 22, 1944 and arrived in NY eight days later. (Their plane, nicknamed Lace for a well known pinup cartoon character at the time, wasn’t so lucky. I have a photo my dad kept from the local British paper showing the crew next to the nose art after a Purple Heart had been painted on her chest for wounds she took in action.)

There’s some pretty good historical information that’s survived about the 8th Air Force 453rd Bomber Group. They flew from “Old Buckenham” Airfield from 12/23/43 until 4/12/45. 197 B24 bombers were known to have flown in the group at one time or another. They took part in 259 missions over Belgium, The Netherlands, and Germany. 58 of those planes were either shot down or returned so damaged as to not be salvageable. 366 crewmen lost their lives.

A few years after my dad passed I was talking to a friend who worked for a German subsidiary of my employer. He mentioned his family came from Paderborn, and that sounded so familiar. I looked through my dad’s war memorabilia and saw that three of his missions were to the Paderborn Luftwaffe airfield. After telling my friend he said he still remembered his parents telling him how afraid they were the days that airfield was bombed, as “precision bombing” in WWII wasn’t that at all. I felt great relief when he told me none of his family were killed or injured during any of those raids.
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SCLaxAttack wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:47 am
Kismet wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 6:25 am
NattyBohChamps04 wrote: Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:29 am
SCLaxAttack wrote: Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:02 pmThe airfield where he was stationed still exists, along with a few of the WWII era buildings and Quonset huts, as a private airport on the outskirts of Attleboro England, with a museum dedicated to his bomber group. A trip there is on my bucket list.
Give 'em hell 453rd...
Actors Jimmy Stewart (pilot and ops officer) and Walter Matthau (tailgunner) were both in the 453rd.

Check out The Wild Blue by Stephen Ambrose and certainly the great 1949 war film Twelve O'Clock High.

Lastly, in the Burns film, they mentioned that USA alone lost 51,000 people (aircrews) during the war bombing Germany and mainland Europe both in daylight and nighttime.
Kismet, you’re about to regret providing that extra info, as it provides me the same opportunity. Apologies in advance for steering this away from its actual topic.

Stewart was group ops officer from Mar 31 - Jul 1, 1944. My dad and the rest of his crew (initial bomb crews trained together and then flew their new plane to their assignment) arrived at the group on June 4, 1944. They flew 35 missions, remarkably without injury to any of their crew. He and his crew returned to the US by ship on Dec 22, 1944 and arrived in NY eight days later. (Their plane, nicknamed Lace for a well known pinup cartoon character at the time, wasn’t so lucky. I have a photo my dad kept from the local British paper showing the crew next to the nose art after a Purple Heart had been painted on her chest for wounds she took in action.)

There’s some pretty good historical information that’s survived about the 8th Air Force 453rd Bomber Group. They flew from “Old Buckenham” Airfield from 12/23/43 until 4/12/45. 197 B24 bombers were known to have flown in the group at one time or another. They took part in 259 missions over Belgium, The Netherlands, and Germany. 58 of those planes were either shot down or returned so damaged as to not be salvageable. 366 crewmen lost their lives.

A few years after my dad passed I was talking to a friend who worked for a German subsidiary of my employer. He mentioned his family came from Paderborn, and that sounded so familiar. I looked through my dad’s war memorabilia and saw that three of his missions were to the Paderborn Luftwaffe airfield. After telling my friend he said he still remembered his parents telling him how afraid they were the days that airfield was bombed, as “precision bombing” in WWII wasn’t that at all. I felt great relief when he told me none of his family were killed or injured during any of those raids.
not a problem. Thx for sharing.
Back on this topic, the ultimate lack of "precision bombing" was the reason Bomber Command declined to approve strikes on known Nazi concentration camps near the end of the war because they could not guarantee that they would not kill as many captives as enemy soldiers and/or destroy only structures being used for extermination or command/control. None of these camp footprints were that large geographically speaking.
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Philly cop to get token punishment for killing unarmed black:


https://www.inquirer.com/news/philadelp ... 20921.html


Ruch: Under Pennsylvania law, he faces a maximum prison term of 25 years, but advisory sentencing guidelines call for a much lesser sentence, in the range of five years.

Wouldn't surprise me in the least if all he got was six months of community service.
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Brett Favre?
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:09 pm Brett Favre?
Brett is a welfare king.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:10 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:09 pm Brett Favre?
Brett is a welfare king.
Good thing he didn’t take a knee for the anthem, right?
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Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:10 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:09 pm Brett Favre?
Brett is a welfare king.
Good thing he didn’t take a knee for the anthem, right?
He wouldn’t take a knee unless it is to bend over to pick up welfare checks.
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Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:59 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:44 pm
Typical Lax Dad wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:10 pm
Seacoaster(1) wrote: Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:09 pm Brett Favre?
Brett is a welfare king.
Good thing he didn’t take a knee for the anthem, right?
He wouldn’t take a knee unless it is to bend over to pick up welfare checks.
Some coverage:

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/26/spor ... ion=Sports

"The website for Brett Favre’s foundation, Favre 4 Hope, describes a mission of the charitable organization that the Hall of Fame quarterback founded in 1995: providing financial aid to groups “that provide services to underserved and disabled children in Mississippi and Wisconsin.”

This stated aim stands in contrast to what Favre has been accused of in his home state: playing a role in the misappropriation of about $8 million in public funds intended for welfare recipients. The state of Mississippi sued 38 people or organizations, including Favre, earlier this year to recoup money it said was fraudulently diverted from a federal antipoverty program known as Temporary Assistance for Needy Families.

Favre has not been charged with a crime. But the evidence that links him to this scandal has further compromised the standing earned with his football success across a 20-year N.F.L. career, particularly in the state where he has been a favorite son. Text messages released in a court filing earlier this month showed Favre leveraging that status to secure funds for personal pet projects: a biotechnology start-up in which he had invested and a volleyball facility at his alma mater, the University of Southern Mississippi, where his daughter played the sport. The texts were first reported on by Mississippi Today.

Favre’s lawyer, Bud Holmes, did not respond to messages seeking comment. He and Favre have said that Favre was not aware that the funds came from a federal welfare program. Two of the people Favre was in touch with have pleaded guilty to fraud charges related to the welfare money: John Davis, who served as executive director of the Mississippi Department of Human Services under Phil Bryant, the state’s former governor, and Nancy New, who led a community education nonprofit that misappropriated funds to Favre and other prominent figures.

As for Favre’s contention that he didn’t realize the source of the funds, it’s not uncommon for individuals to secure grants without knowing exactly where the money is coming from, said Lisa Delpy Neirotti, a professor of sport philanthropy at George Washington University. But, she added: “You probably should have started getting suspicious if they can fund everything from a volleyball stadium to a biotech company. I don’t know what kind of fund he thought this was.”

Court filings describe Favre pushing local leaders, including Davis and New, to fund the construction of the multimillion-dollar volleyball facility at Southern Miss. New’s nonprofit directed $5 million to the school for the project, according to public records, disguised as a lease to get around restrictions on how welfare funds are used. Favre and New also came up with a plan for Favre to receive $1.1 million from the nonprofit, supposedly for promotional appearances, that he would also funnel to the volleyball facility, their text messages show. (A state auditor previously demanded that Favre repay this amount; he still owes the interest.) “If you were to pay me,” Favre texted to New as they discussed this idea in 2017, “is there anyway the media can find out where it came from and how much?”

Text messages between Favre and Bryant, made public by Bryant’s attorney in a court filing late last week, show Favre unsuccessfully pushing for more public funding for Southern Miss athletic facilities in late 2019, even after the then-governor cautioned him that misuse of the welfare grants New had access to could be illegal. In addition to the volleyball facility — toward which Favre said he personally owed money — one message shows Favre lobbying for the construction of an indoor football facility to help recruit Deion Sanders’s son, Shedeur Sanders, a top quarterback, to Southern Miss.

Favre also worked to secure $2.1 million through New’s nonprofit for the biotech start-up, which purports to be developing a drug to treat concussions. This investment also came from public funds for the welfare program and, the state’s lawsuit said, was for the “financial benefit” of Favre and others.

It’s not yet known if Favre will face legal consequences for his role in the misuse of these public funds. But his connection to it has resulted in significant public scrutiny — a kind of scrutiny that Favre has faced before. More than a decade ago, a game-day host for the Jets, Jenn Sterger, accused Favre of sending her lewd and harassing messages while he was a quarterback for the team. (The N.F.L. said it could not establish that Favre sent the photographs to Sterger but fined him $50,000 for failing to cooperate with the investigation.)

Sage Rosenfels, a former N.F.L. quarterback and Favre’s teammate on the Minnesota Vikings, called him out in a Twitter post, writing, “Since retirement, I have been lucky to avoid stealing millions of dollars from the poorest people in my state.” Rich Desrosiers, the chief communications officer for the Pro Football Hall of Fame, said he has fielded about a dozen phone calls from fans about Favre, all asking for him to be removed from the Hall, into which he was inducted in 2016. “There’s no question this has outraged a number of fans,” he said.

Desrosiers said he has told each caller that Favre has not yet been charged with any crime, and that the Hall of Fame bylaws, as they are currently written, don’t allow for the removal of someone once they have been elected. No one has ever been removed, including George Preston Marshall, the demonstrably racist former owner of Washington’s N.F.L. team; O.J. Simpson, who was found responsible in civil court for the murders of his former wife and her friend; and Lawrence Taylor, who in 2011 pleaded guilty to two misdemeanor sex offenses after soliciting an underage woman.

Regardless of what happens to Favre in the formal settings that chronicle his football achievements, there is a number that is perhaps more striking than his streak of 321 consecutive starts: the $8 million meant for poor people that he is accused by the state of pushing to his personal interests, despite having earned more than $140 million in his N.F.L. playing career.

That he did so while running a foundation that, in part, pledged to aid underserved Mississippians seems too cynical to be true. One of the organizations listed as a charity partner of Favre 4 Hope is Hope Haven, which serves children in Mississippi who are victims of sexual abuse and trauma. Hope Haven’s executive director, John James, said the center usually receives a $10,000 donation from Favre’s foundation late in the year. He said he hopes the donations keep coming despite the recent headlines because the funding helps Hope Haven meet the needs of its community.

For smaller organizations especially, $10,000 can go a long way. That puts into scale the extent of the fraud to which Favre has been linked — and how he has chosen to use his power and influence in his home state."
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Remember when Brett Favre said kneeling players cause “turmoil”?

Or when he said it’s “hard to believe” Derek Chauvin meant to kill George Floyd?

Or when he tweeted he was voting Trump 2020?

I just keep thinking how “stealing from poor folks” fits PERFECTLY with all that stuff.

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CU88 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:05 pm Remember when Brett Favre said kneeling players cause “turmoil”?

Or when he said it’s “hard to believe” Derek Chauvin meant to kill George Floyd?

Or when he tweeted he was voting Trump 2020?

I just keep thinking how “stealing from poor folks” fits PERFECTLY with all that stuff.

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CU88 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:05 pm Remember when Brett Favre said kneeling players cause “turmoil”?

Or when he said it’s “hard to believe” Derek Chauvin meant to kill George Floyd?

Or when he tweeted he was voting Trump 2020?

I just keep thinking how “stealing from poor folks” fits PERFECTLY with all that stuff.

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hey - give him a break .... at least he didn't send those kids "richard"-Picks :o :shock:
STILL somewhere back in the day....

...and waiting/hoping for a tinfoil hat emoji......
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HooDat wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:23 pm
CU88 wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2022 12:05 pm Remember when Brett Favre said kneeling players cause “turmoil”?

Or when he said it’s “hard to believe” Derek Chauvin meant to kill George Floyd?

Or when he tweeted he was voting Trump 2020?

I just keep thinking how “stealing from poor folks” fits PERFECTLY with all that stuff.

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hey - give him a break .... at least he didn't send those kids "richard"-Picks :o :shock:
He traded those picks for a bottle of oxy already.
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Next time someone tells you that America isn’t a racist country, just remind them that this nation is willing to accept treason from a white president but not healthcare from a Black one.

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https://www.npr.org/2022/09/16/11231129 ... in-america

A family from Guadeloupe told me the exact same thing about black Americans in 1991.
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