I could agree with either.HooDat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:21 pmthis conservative would argue that health care is not a "human right", but it is a civil right. Communities owe each other the promise of taking care of one another when injured or sick.CU77 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 12:17 pmI completely agree. Too many on the left have seemingly given up on the notion of bringing more people over to their point of view, and hence winning more elections.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 08, 2019 11:51 amBut here is why I think the left blows the argument: When they argue that 'healthcare is a human right, not a privilege.' That blows the minds of folks who value earning what they receive. (often hypocritically, but it's a philosophical POV).
But the hypocrisy on the right is also high. I have not been able to find any one who will say, yes, we must let people die in the street if they can't pay for their health care. But that's the actual alternative to health care not being a "right". We, as a society, are not willing to tolerate that, so we pass laws like Ronniecare (EMTALA) that force private-sector entities to work for free to provide (emergency) health care to all. Of course these entities don't really do it for free; they pass the costs on to the rest of us in the form of higher insurance premiums and out-of-pocket expenses.
I just think that making that the crux of the argument makes it hard for folks to focus on how to do it better, smarter, more efficiently