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Question for the Hop faithful. Why is Quint not in the national HOF? Four time AA, two time Kelly goalie of the year, national champ. It’s been 32 years since he graduated, while two other well deserving goalies who came later than him (Bacigalupo and Dougherty) made it in half that time.
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Comeonman wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:57 am Question for the Hop faithful. Why is Quint not in the national HOF? Four time AA, two time Kelly goalie of the year, national champ. It’s been 32 years since he graduated, while two other well deserving goalies who came later than him (Bacigalupo and Dougherty) made it in half that time.
Quint K should absolutely be in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.

Don’t know why he isn’t.

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Comeonman wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:57 am Question for the Hop faithful. Why is Quint not in the national HOF? Four time AA, two time Kelly goalie of the year, national champ. It’s been 32 years since he graduated, while two other well deserving goalies who came later than him (Bacigalupo and Dougherty) made it in half that time.
firstly, someone needs to nominate him.... so there's that.

also, the candidate needs to accept and go thru application process. i know guys who've waited on that so their family/kids are old enough to appreciate, as one example.
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DocBarrister wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:35 pm
Comeonman wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:57 am Question for the Hop faithful. Why is Quint not in the national HOF? Four time AA, two time Kelly goalie of the year, national champ. It’s been 32 years since he graduated, while two other well deserving goalies who came later than him (Bacigalupo and Dougherty) made it in half that time.
Quint K should absolutely be in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.

Don’t know why he isn’t.

DocBarrister
Here are some of QKs stats,
1987 Tournament Finals
Team 1 2 3 4 Total
Johns Hopkins 3 4 2 2 11
Cornell 2 2 5 1 10
Johns Hopkins scoring – Craig Bubier 4, Brian Wood 2, John Dressel, Mike Morrill, John Ciccarone, Larry LeDoyen, John Wilkens
Cornell scoring – Tim Goldstein 2, Mike Cummings 2, Bob Cummings 2, John Wurzburger 2, Tim Mulligan, Vince Angotti
Shots: Cornell 43, Johns Hopkins 37
Saves: Johns Hopkins 21, Cornell 15
1989 Tournament Finals
Team 1 2 3 4 Total
Syracuse 5 1 3 4 13
Johns Hopkins 4 4 3 1 12
Syracuse scoring – Paul Gait 4, John Zulberti 2, Gary Gait 2, Rodney Dumpson 2, Tom Marechek, Greg Burns, Joe Bonacci
Johns Hopkins scoring – Matt Panetta 5, John Wilkens 2, Mike Morrissey, John Dressel, Greg Kelly, Jay Clarke, Brian Lukacz
Shots: Johns Hopkins 40, Syracuse 39
Saves: Johns Hopkins Quint Kessenich 17, Syracuse Matt Palumb 13
Johns Hopkins University
Men’s Lacrosse Record Book
Goaltending Records
Annual Goaltending Leader
Svs. GA Save %
1987 Quint Kessenich 125 77 .619
1988 Quint Kessenich 122 65 .652
1989 Quint Kessenich 152 84 .644
1990 Quint Kessenich 174 112 .608
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Be in their flowing cups freshly rememb'red.
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44WeWantMore wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 6:38 am QK Highlights: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXnV9C6GRxE
No way the Jays would have one the '87 title without Quint in goal that year.
I seem to remember they had a lot of injuries on the defensive side of the ball and couldn't match up Paul Gait in the '89 NC.
I believe that Adam Wright was also injured for the NC game. Hop actually won the opener against Cuse in '89.
Not only could QK really stop the ball, but he was pretty phenomenal outside the goal. He almost never made a mistake coming out of the goal.
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10stone5 wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 9:28 pm
DocBarrister wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:35 pm
Comeonman wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:57 am Question for the Hop faithful. Why is Quint not in the national HOF? Four time AA, two time Kelly goalie of the year, national champ. It’s been 32 years since he graduated, while two other well deserving goalies who came later than him (Bacigalupo and Dougherty) made it in half that time.
Quint K should absolutely be in the National Lacrosse Hall of Fame.

Don’t know why he isn’t.

DocBarrister
Here are some of QKs stats,
1987 Tournament Finals
Team 1 2 3 4 Total
Johns Hopkins 3 4 2 2 11
Cornell 2 2 5 1 10
Johns Hopkins scoring – Craig Bubier 4, Brian Wood 2, John Dressel, Mike Morrill, John Ciccarone, Larry LeDoyen, John Wilkens
Cornell scoring – Tim Goldstein 2, Mike Cummings 2, Bob Cummings 2, John Wurzburger 2, Tim Mulligan, Vince Angotti
Shots: Cornell 43, Johns Hopkins 37
Saves: Johns Hopkins 21, Cornell 15
1989 Tournament Finals
Team 1 2 3 4 Total
Syracuse 5 1 3 4 13
Johns Hopkins 4 4 3 1 12
Syracuse scoring – Paul Gait 4, John Zulberti 2, Gary Gait 2, Rodney Dumpson 2, Tom Marechek, Greg Burns, Joe Bonacci
Johns Hopkins scoring – Matt Panetta 5, John Wilkens 2, Mike Morrissey, John Dressel, Greg Kelly, Jay Clarke, Brian Lukacz
Shots: Johns Hopkins 40, Syracuse 39
Saves: Johns Hopkins Quint Kessenich 17, Syracuse Matt Palumb 13
Johns Hopkins University
Men’s Lacrosse Record Book
Goaltending Records
Annual Goaltending Leader
Svs. GA Save %
1987 Quint Kessenich 125 77 .619
1988 Quint Kessenich 122 65 .652
1989 Quint Kessenich 152 84 .644
1990 Quint Kessenich 174 112 .608
Thanks for the stats.

Quint K is one of the greatest Hopkins goalies of all time, and one of the best goalies from any team in the past 50 years.

And pretty much all he gets is grief about his broadcast commentary.

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Outside of Hop circles Quint is seen as the Terry Bradshaw of Lacrosse.

Good enough player back in the day, but media caricature now.

Methinks he would already be in the HOF if he didn't have his media gig going.
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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:30 am Outside of Hop circles Quint is seen as the Terry Bradshaw of Lacrosse.

Good enough player back in the day, but media caricature now.

Methinks he would already be in the HOF if he didn't have his media gig going.
I would agree with that assessment.

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kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:30 am Outside of Hop circles Quint is seen as the Terry Bradshaw of Lacrosse.

Good enough player back in the day, but media caricature now.

Methinks he would already be in the HOF if he didn't have his media gig going.
A paycheck, or glory, which would you take?
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Whatever one thinks about his broadcasting there is no doubt he should be in the HOF, truly one of the best to ever play the position.
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xxxxxxx wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:16 am Whatever one thinks about his broadcasting there is no doubt he should be in the HOF, truly one of the best to ever play the position.
No doubt he was one of the best goalies that I have every seen. However, he might have been overlooked as "one of the greats" since he followed Hall Of Fame goalie Larry Quinn, who was in the finals all four years winning in '84 and '85. LQ was not only the national goalie of the year both of those years, he was the national player of the year (Pre-Tewaaraton).

It is like Steve Young following Joe Montana for the Niners. Young never got as much credit.
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Sagittarius A* wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:48 am
kramerica.inc wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 10:30 am Outside of Hop circles Quint is seen as the Terry Bradshaw of Lacrosse.

Good enough player back in the day, but media caricature now.

Methinks he would already be in the HOF if he didn't have his media gig going.
A paycheck, or glory, which would you take?
Not sure why Quint K would have to choose.

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wgdsr wrote: Sun Jul 31, 2022 2:58 pm i know guys who've waited on that so their family/kids are old enough to appreciate, as one example.
That explains a lot...thank you. Makes perfect sense.
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Sagittarius A* wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:43 am
Not only could QK really stop the ball, but he was pretty phenomenal outside the goal. He almost never made a mistake coming out of the goal.
Saw him play Virginia at Homewood, sat behind the goal. UVa were lazily moving the ball around the perimeter. Attackman throws a soft pass to X, and Quint comes out and ERASES the attackman (can't remember who). Casually moves the ball up the field. I had never seen a goalie do that before. He could have just plucked the ball.....nope, instead, I'm going to embarrass your attackman.

I saw several games from LoCascio and Schimoler in that NCAA era. To my eyes Quint was every bit as good they were in the cage, and it was no contest out of the cage. Quint was the best of that era for that.
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xxxxxxx wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 11:16 am Whatever one thinks about his broadcasting there is no doubt he should be in the HOF, truly one of the best to ever play the position.
He and carc have been the tv voices of the sport for a long long time now. Whatever his career and credentials on the field, his ESPN work alone makes him an HOF and the school should be thinking about something for him as well. The program and schools brands look a lot different w/out the ESPN deal and work he's done there.
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a fan wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:21 pm
Sagittarius A* wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:43 am
Not only could QK really stop the ball, but he was pretty phenomenal outside the goal. He almost never made a mistake coming out of the goal.
Saw him play Virginia at Homewood, sat behind the goal. UVa were lazily moving the ball around the perimeter. Attackman throws a soft pass to X, and Quint comes out and ERASES the attackman (can't remember who). Casually moves the ball up the field. I had never seen a goalie do that before. He could have just plucked the ball.....nope, instead, I'm going to embarrass your attackman.

I saw several games from LoCascio and Schimoler in that NCAA era. To my eyes Quint was every bit as good they were in the cage, and it was no contest out of the cage. Quint was the best of that era for that.
Hop played UMass at Homewood in the first round of the tourney in 89. Low scoring game. I think QK was fine, but Sal was out of his mind good.
My first year of being a lax fan and Sal certainly made an impression on me. Who's that guy? But damn, he had quick hands.
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nyjay wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:08 pm
a fan wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:21 pm
Sagittarius A* wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 8:43 am
Not only could QK really stop the ball, but he was pretty phenomenal outside the goal. He almost never made a mistake coming out of the goal.
Saw him play Virginia at Homewood, sat behind the goal. UVa were lazily moving the ball around the perimeter. Attackman throws a soft pass to X, and Quint comes out and ERASES the attackman (can't remember who). Casually moves the ball up the field. I had never seen a goalie do that before. He could have just plucked the ball.....nope, instead, I'm going to embarrass your attackman.

I saw several games from LoCascio and Schimoler in that NCAA era. To my eyes Quint was every bit as good they were in the cage, and it was no contest out of the cage. Quint was the best of that era for that.
Hop played UMass at Homewood in the first round of the tourney in 89. Low scoring game. I think QK was fine, but Sal was out of his mind good.
Looking at the box score, Sal was indeed out of his mind that day----26 saves, and 74% save pcg.



Quint finished the day at 78% save pcg.

Saw Sal play at the Dome. Crazy quick hands.
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The opinions on Quint within the hop community are mixed. Outside of it less so with many not appreciating the level of arrogance he walks around with. I’m not going to argue his stats but it may explain why there hasn’t been a nomination.
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Regardless of what you think of him as an announcer, Q should be a slam dunk for the HOF on the basis of his four years at JHU.
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