old salt wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:53 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:43 pm
a fan wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2019 3:38 pm
Ah, so I do understand the complaint, old salt.
I'm right: don't lie about meeting Russians. If Flynn and Trump didn't play their stupid games, and lie every chance they get....all this paranoia goes away, and it's a nothing story.
You desperately want to blame everyone but Trump's crew.
I have never understood this. You know they lied non stop. You know he's not fit for office. You know all these people weren't properly vetted.
But you don't want to---not even for a second--- put even one scintilla of blame on them for all this collateral damage. It's always someone else's fault.
Salty just likes Trump's policies, a fan.
...& you're willing to believe anything, without evidence or proof, so long as it damages Trump.
Whatever it takes. The ends justifiy the means.
I'll be happy for the gal if it turns out she's clean as a whistle.
I just don't assume she's clean just because she says so.
Again, there appears to have been a very legitimate basis for concern about how she obtained access, very unusual access, to secret Soviet-era files. Maybe she was just persuasive? Or, maybe she was connected at high levels.
I'm not sure how it will matter, though, in terms of Trump. Even if she was found to be a flat out GRU agent I don't think that really impacts Trump. Not really Flynn either, unless it was found that he played footsie with her and was compromised as a result. Maybe he was. Maybe not. I'm guessing not.
Regardless, it seems to me he came clean, Mueller thinks he was very helpful and truthful, once he decided to stop lying and cooperate instead. Whatever he did, right or wrong, wittingly or witless, he's owned up to with Mueller.
Good enough for me.
That said, this is the sort of thing that is why the report needs to come out. Let it clear those who should be cleared. Let it illuminate what the Russians did, and who was involved. Who lied, and who did not? Who covered up, who 'obstructed,' and who did not?
Bottomline, what is the truth and how do we know?
And, what don't we know?
Why don't we know? Obstructed?