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guess.....what I want, is to have the situation room, or Maddow, Tucker, Anderson Cooper to do a segment on it. Invite some metoo reps. A child abuse advocate. NAMBLA. I want jimmy kimmel, Cobert, the guy who replace Jon Stewart to do tell some jokes or include her idiotic remarks in their monologues. I want the view to invite the "Neverland" abuse victims on. All those tweets and not a one from tRump??
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AOC speaking truth? Or just babbling? https://www.instagram.com/p/BvsA0uAD9WF ... k5hxl7sivl
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So you get some smart a** b**** who has an agenda, take one answer to one question out of a conversation, then disect it and interject your distorted understanding of what she said, and that's what you get from the "news"/social media.
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It was a question dmac, for discussion purposes, since socialism has been a hot topic lately.
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I get it, youth, and the "you" wasn't directed at you it was directed at the media/social media. It's awful the way sound bites are used, dissected, and distorted the way I see it. It's a cesspool out there with this kind of thing (where many get there "news" from too).
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youthathletics wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2019 6:30 pm AOC speaking truth? Or just babbling? https://www.instagram.com/p/BvsA0uAD9WF ... k5hxl7sivl
Yes, much better to spend all that "stolen" money on Fat Leonard scandals, drones and bank bailouts. :roll:
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More exceptional Democrat leadership in Baltimore. Mayor Pugh takes leave after voting for and collecting 500 large for her Healthy Holly pamphlet/book deal.

https://www.npr.org/2019/04/01/70889150 ... ated-leave
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Seems like a piker compared to Ivanka and Jared
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:lol:



As scary as it is, Ivanka and Jared are rookies compared to the seasoned Baltimore Mafia.

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Rookies? Both families have been mobbed up for decades. There no where near the money in the penny ante crimes in Baltimore compared to the decades long run both of those families have had .
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You’re right, Pugh’s heist was just a “tiny” half million grab.

:roll:

Baltimore politicians- robbing the poor and promising them help since 1950.

Gotta keep the electorate needing the government!
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thatsmell wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:34 pm You’re right, Pugh’s heist was just a “tiny” half million grab.

:roll:

Baltimore politicians- robbing the poor and promising them help since 1950.

Gotta keep the electorate needing the government!
OCanada's right, the Baltimore stuff is penny ante in comparison to the Trump and Kushner families.

But you're right there have been lots of Baltimore pols getting greased one way or the other over the years. Not sure why you'd choose 1950, probably true before then too.

I don't know if you're following closely, but Pugh appears to be a tiny tip of the iceberg of the scandal. Looks like some 'well respected' business people on that Board who may have ripped us (taxpayers) off for vastly more than Pugh's take.

And that's really the story of Baltimore political corruption, various business people, most typically the real estate moguls, who have greased the pols in order to make vastly more on deals within the city, tremendous 'ROI' on the 'grease cost'.
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Back to the 737 Max story - it is now clear that the MCAS system failed (WaPo article link includes actual sensor data showing one of the sensors blowing up) and apparently there is yet another software issue that is blowing up the timeline to get the software fixes done/approved:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/af ... 6f1489fbea

And the preliminary report on the accident says the pilots tried (correctly) to deactivate the MCAS system to no avail...
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MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:47 pm
thatsmell wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:34 pm You’re right, Pugh’s heist was just a “tiny” half million grab.

:roll:

Baltimore politicians- robbing the poor and promising them help since 1950.

Gotta keep the electorate needing the government!
OCanada's right, the Baltimore stuff is penny ante in comparison to the Trump and Kushner families.

But you're right there have been lots of Baltimore pols getting greased one way or the other over the years. Not sure why you'd choose 1950, probably true before then too.

I don't know if you're following closely, but Pugh appears to be a tiny tip of the iceberg of the scandal. Looks like some 'well respected' business people on that Board who may have ripped us (taxpayers) off for vastly more than Pugh's take.

And that's really the story of Baltimore political corruption, various business people, most typically the real estate moguls, who have greased the pols in order to make vastly more on deals within the city, tremendous 'ROI' on the 'grease cost'.
… and more often than not the real estate moguls don't even have the good grace to live in the city they steal from.
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RedFromMI wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:54 pm Back to the 737 Max story - it is now clear that the MCAS system failed (WaPo article link includes actual sensor data showing one of the sensors blowing up) and apparently there is yet another software issue that is blowing up the timeline to get the software fixes done/approved:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/af ... 6f1489fbea

And the preliminary report on the accident says the pilots tried (correctly) to deactivate the MCAS system to no avail...
... of course its all the fault of those under trained, under educated pilots from those beans hole countries that don't really have the ability to operate complicated things like an airplane.
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jhu72 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:58 pm
MDlaxfan76 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:47 pm
thatsmell wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:34 pm You’re right, Pugh’s heist was just a “tiny” half million grab.

:roll:

Baltimore politicians- robbing the poor and promising them help since 1950.

Gotta keep the electorate needing the government!
OCanada's right, the Baltimore stuff is penny ante in comparison to the Trump and Kushner families.

But you're right there have been lots of Baltimore pols getting greased one way or the other over the years. Not sure why you'd choose 1950, probably true before then too.

I don't know if you're following closely, but Pugh appears to be a tiny tip of the iceberg of the scandal. Looks like some 'well respected' business people on that Board who may have ripped us (taxpayers) off for vastly more than Pugh's take.

And that's really the story of Baltimore political corruption, various business people, most typically the real estate moguls, who have greased the pols in order to make vastly more on deals within the city, tremendous 'ROI' on the 'grease cost'.
… and more often than not the real estate moguls don't even have the good grace to live in the city they steal from.
Yup.
Which isn't to say that everyone is dirty in that game (it's not Manhattan) but way too many have indeed been dirty.
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RedFromMI wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:54 pm Back to the 737 Max story - it is now clear that the MCAS system failed (WaPo article link includes actual sensor data showing one of the sensors blowing up) and apparently there is yet another software issue that is blowing up the timeline to get the software fixes done/approved:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/af ... 6f1489fbea

And the preliminary report on the accident says the pilots tried (correctly) to deactivate the MCAS system to no avail...
The pilots initially tried correctly to deactivate the MCAS system, but they were by then going too fast to retrim the aircraft manually & they reactivated the MCAS, exacerbating the problem. They may have initially recognized the MCAS malfunction but they did not take the appropriate corrective action. John Cox again provides the most cogent analysis I've read :

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... boeing-max

The low time first officer made critical errors. Distracted by the stick shaker, he failed to reduce takeoff power on climb out, as directed by the captain. They maintained 94% power until impact. This produced speeds above the flight envelope for that altitude, making it impossible to manually trim with the trim control wheel, at that speed. This prompted the first officer to conclude that manual trim was inop, which prompted the capt to keep re-engaging the MCAS. Neither pilot tried the nose trim switches on their control yoke.

Boeing is on the hook for inadequate systems safety engineering & fault tree analysis, allowing a single point of failure by programming the MCAS to activate based on just 1 AOA indicator, when they could have programmed it to compare the 2 & consider/compare both airspeed sensors, as well.

Boeing should also have done better pilot training on the MCAS system & included this malfunction immediately after takeoff in simulator training.

Like most accidents, there are multiple cause factors. In both accidents, the pilots found themselves in an emergency situation which they did not recognize & completely understand. They were inadequately trained/experienced to function as a 2 man crew to recover, like the Lion Air crew did the day before their accident, thanks to the 3rd pilot in the cockpit who interceded.

Though tragic, it's good that both accidents seem to have the same cause that is not that difficult to correct.

This reflects poorly on Boeing, the FAA & the 2 air carriers involved.

It reflects well on AA, SWA, UA, Air Canada & all the other air carriers who've safely operated the 737 MAX whose crews have correctly responded to MCAS malfunctions. Consider the narrative & synopsis in these incident reports from US air carrier pilots.
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old salt wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:23 am
RedFromMI wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 7:54 pm Back to the 737 Max story - it is now clear that the MCAS system failed (WaPo article link includes actual sensor data showing one of the sensors blowing up) and apparently there is yet another software issue that is blowing up the timeline to get the software fixes done/approved:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/af ... 6f1489fbea

And the preliminary report on the accident says the pilots tried (correctly) to deactivate the MCAS system to no avail...
The pilots initially tried correctly to deactivate the MCAS system, but they were by then going too fast to retrim the aircraft manually & they reactivated the MCAS, exacerbating the problem. They may have initially recognized the MCAS malfunction but they did not take the appropriate corrective action. John Cox again provides the most cogent analysis I've read :

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... boeing-max

The low time first officer made critical errors. Distracted by the stick shaker, he failed to reduce takeoff power on climb out, as directed by the captain. They maintained 94% power until impact. This produced speeds above the flight envelope for that altitude, making it impossible to manually trim with the trim control wheel, at that speed. This prompted the first officer to conclude that manual trim was inop, which prompted the capt to keep re-engaging the MCAS. Neither pilot tried the nose trim switches on their control yoke.

Boeing is on the hook for inadequate systems safety engineering & fault tree analysis, allowing a single point of failure by programming the MCAS to activate based on just 1 AOA indicator, when they could have programmed it to compare the 2 & consider/compare both airspeed sensors, as well.

Boeing should also have done better pilot training on the MCAS system & included this malfunction immediately after takeoff in simulator training.

Note that because they did not want to have to retrain pilots - they did not really divulge the system, and extra training for pilots was tablet based - it was supposed to be the "same" plane. This one is on Boeing/FAA.

Like most accidents, there are multiple cause factors. In both accidents, the pilots found themselves in an emergency situation which they did not recognize & completely understand. They were inadequately trained/experienced to function as a 2 man crew to recover, like the Lion Air crew did the day before their accident, thanks to the 3rd pilot in the cockpit who interceded.

Though tragic, it's good that both accidents seem to have the same cause that is not that difficult to correct.

This reflects poorly on Boeing, the FAA & the 2 air carriers involved.

Note that in the article you referenced - some pilots could see themselves doing all the (wrong) kinds of things regarding the attempts to regain control. But not throttling back the power after takeoff is certainly a critical error by the first officer.

It reflects well on AA, SWA, UA, Air Canada & all the other air carriers who've safely operated the 737 MAX whose crews have correctly responded to MCAS malfunctions. Consider the narrative & synopsis in these incident reports from US air carrier pilots.
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Move over Rachel Dolezal (forgive me Nkechi Amare Diallo)

This guy identifies as another species. Not a man but mans best friend!

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/h ... t-14235958
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AOC has developed a new accent....embarrassing. https://twitter.com/realsaavedra/status ... 55200?s=21
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