MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 11, 2022 10:08 am I doubt Petey has thought through those questions, just as his dismissal of paying attention to the "Billy Bob" trailer dweller may mean that "urban" is just code for racial presumption...
And where does he think those meth dealers cook? "urban" ?
That said, it is indeed true that # of murders committed with guns (33% of all firearm fatalities) are quite concentrated in definable neighborhood areas. However, murder rates (percentage of population) though are not nearly as concentrated. That follows poverty wherever it's found, especially in regions with high gun ownership and low income, both in rural and dense pop centers.
I'm all for targeting highest gun murder areas for the most resources (assuming we could figure out the 4th A issues!), but that's going to quite surprisingly not simply mean "urban" or "inner city", much less the other presumption of "Democrat"...rather, it's concentrated in very specific neighborhoods, though that's neither racial nor Dem driven...rather, it's poverty. Red or Blue....but given the racial disparities in poverty, yup, we're gonna see a quite likely overreach by those who like Petey's suggestion of a "sweep" in "urban" or "inner city" areas.
On the other hand, suicides are nearly twice the # of firearm deaths as murders...
It's important to note that both murder rates with guns and suicide rates with guns are highest in states with highest gun ownership rates...legal gun ownership...
https://www.countyhealthrankings.org/ex ... fatalities
So, reducing gun ownership, legal or illegal, certainly makes sense...but is the issue of concentrated murders in poverty-stricken areas (rural or dense pop) really gonna be solved by gun "sweeps" with all of the attendant 4th A issues of abuse of the residents of those areas, who are predominantly the victims of gun crime, not the perpetrators?
I’m talking about sweeping up ILLEGAL guns, not simply guns for guns sake. Why would I want to confiscate your gun if you own it legally?
Do you think most guns in Baltimore city are legally owned? If not, let’s go get them. Or are you concerned with optics over substance?
I hear a lot of sturm und drang about guns and violence, but when your bluff is called, you retreat behind the woke curtains. I’m giving you the tools to clean up society. So go do it. What’s holding you back? I don’t care if the gun is illegally owned by a black guy, white guy, yellow guy, or purple guy; if you don’t have a permit, cough it up. Broken windows policing for the inner city. Let’s go. You say you want a revolution when it comes to gun confiscation, I say good, let’s go.
While we are at it, no handguns or semi automatics until you’re 21. No voting either.