January 6, 2021: Insurrection or “normal tourist” visitation?

[Brooklyn]

So "democracy" is a "FLP principle"?

Well, you know how it is with so many of these radical right wingers. To them right wing dictatorship is the ideal form of government. Democracy is, somehow, undesirable or unAmerican. Their thoughts are delusionalism at best but it's what they live for.

[ggait]

The January 6 Committee Doesn’t Need New “Bombshells.” We Already Know What Happened.

...the efforts to overturn the election by Trump and his allies were multi-faceted and disorganized. Some were dangerous and illegal; others represented the craziness of the Trump presidency and its disconnect from reality. Imposing the desire for a neat Hollywood ending sets what is likely an unrealistic expectation for a presidency that ended the same way it began: full of chaos and public plots to subvert democracy.

Waiting for new bombshells risks overlooking what we already know. And that helps Trump’s defenders move the goal posts. The defeated president and his allies want you to think January 6 was only bad if some worse conspiracy is revealed.

..

Agree that we already know enough and know (basically) what happened. In any normal world, DOPUS would have been impeachment convicted and would be spending his time mulling his chances of being indicted rather than mulling his 2024 run for the GOP nomination. As it is, 57 votes for conviction in the Senate is really bad. As Mitch McConnell (who was for impeachment before he was against it) and Chris Christie so aptly put it -- "if this isn't impeachable, I don't know what is."

The one part of the coup plot that has blown my mind, however, is the extent to which members of the bar led this bat shirt crazy illegal plot. Put aside the sleazy whack jobs like Giuliani, the Kraken and Jenna Ellis. It stuns me that real lawyers with serious legal jobs/credentials were in on this crazy illegality -- Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, and dozens of lawyer/legislators in Congress and at the state level. How any of them still hold a law license beggars belief.

Tells you something when pretty much everyone at the WH counsel office and DOJ showed up to work every day with their resignation letter in their coat pocket so it would be available at a moments notice. And that we have to depend on such noteworthy toadies as Mike Pence, Dan Quayle and Bill Barr to save the Republic.

I mean, what could be worse than what we already know?

[Seacoaster(1)]

"The one part of the coup plot that has blown my mind, however, is the extent to which members of the bar led this bat shirt crazy illegal plot. Put aside the sleazy whack jobs like Giuliani, the Kraken and Jenna Ellis. It stuns me that real lawyers with serious legal jobs/credentials were in on this crazy illegality -- Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, and dozens of lawyer/legislators in Congress and at the state level. How any of them still hold a law license beggars belief."

Yup. Astonishing.

[Peter Brown]

So "democracy" is a "FLP principle"?

Well, you know how it is with so many of these radical right wingers. To them right wing dictatorship is the ideal form of government. Democracy is, somehow, undesirable or unAmerican. Their thoughts are delusionalism at best but it's what they live for.

An FLP lunatic attempted to murder Brett Kavanaugh last night. Weird that the Fanlax FLP aren’t commenting.

Just so we understand, are all Democrats insurrectionist-y anti-‘rule of law’ now? Isn’t that how this works?

[Brooklyn]

An FLP lunatic attempted to murder Brett Kavanaugh last night. Weird that the Fanlax FLP aren’t commenting.

Just so we understand, are all Democrats insurrectionist-y anti-‘rule of law’ now? Isn’t that how this works?

'Rule of law' ~ gee, where have I heard that before?

Aha! Now I remember ~ a certain right wing delusional said that a ruler overseas had accumulated a massive amount of WMD, had 45 minute attack capability, and was on the verge of launching a tidal wave of attacks upon the USA and the West. How or why he would attack Chicago, Minneapolis, Des Moines, and other cities without being stopped at the borders in Europe was never explained. But somehow right wing delusionals defended that treasonous nitwit and stood by as one million innocents were killed by this right wing "hero". In fact when I condemned him on other websites my life was threatened for daring to challenge his "credibility". How could anyone be so stupid as to believe the words of a treasonous coward like that, I shall never know. But that's right wing delusionalism for you.

[JoeMauer89]

An FLP lunatic attempted to murder Brett Kavanaugh last night. Weird that the Fanlax FLP aren’t commenting.

Just so we understand, are all Democrats insurrectionist-y anti-‘rule of law’ now? Isn’t that how this works?

'Rule of law' ~ gee, where have I heard that before?

Aha! Now I remember ~ a certain right wing delusional said that a ruler overseas had accumulated a massive amount of WMD, had 45 minute attack capability, and was on the verge of launching a tidal wave of attacks upon the USA and the West. How or why he would attack Chicago, Minneapolis, Des Moines, and other cities without being stopped at the borders in Europe was never explained. But somehow right wing delusionals defended that treasonous nitwit and stood by as one million innocents were killed by this right wing "hero". In fact when I condemned him on other websites my life was threatened for daring to challenge his "credibility". How could anyone be so stupid as to believe the words of a treasonous coward like that, I shall never know. But that's right wing delusionalism for you.

You seem to become more and more out of touch with reality with each passing day.

Joe

[get it to x]

"The one part of the coup plot that has blown my mind, however, is the extent to which members of the bar led this bat shirt crazy illegal plot. Put aside the sleazy whack jobs like Giuliani, the Kraken and Jenna Ellis. It stuns me that real lawyers with serious legal jobs/credentials were in on this crazy illegality -- Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, and dozens of lawyer/legislators in Congress and at the state level. How any of them still hold a law license beggars belief."

Yup. Astonishing.

Dems have contested Trump's legitimacy from before the 2016 election to this day. I believe that the "mostly peaceful" crowd was purposely let into the building to disrupt the objection to seating the electors, which worked brilliantly BTW.

[Seacoaster(1)]

"The one part of the coup plot that has blown my mind, however, is the extent to which members of the bar led this bat shirt crazy illegal plot. Put aside the sleazy whack jobs like Giuliani, the Kraken and Jenna Ellis. It stuns me that real lawyers with serious legal jobs/credentials were in on this crazy illegality -- Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, and dozens of lawyer/legislators in Congress and at the state level. How any of them still hold a law license beggars belief."

Yup. Astonishing.

Dems have contested Trump's legitimacy from before the 2016 election to this day. I believe that the "mostly peaceful" crowd was purposely let into the building to disrupt the objection to seating the electors, which worked brilliantly BTW.

Complete and total nonsense, in every way and from every direction. No one contested the vote count in favor of the Moron. People contested the tactics of overtly involving a foreign government and historical enemy, and the use of digital misinformation attacks n are he election cycle, as it relates to Trump. And your “theory” about January 6 is delusional, particularly given what we now know about the antecedent efforts to delegitimize the election, get Pence to violate the law, and send faux electors to Congress. Laughable.

[Brooklyn]

You seem to become more and more out of touch with reality with each passing day.

Joe

Oh really? By any chance have you found your imaginary WMD yet? It's only been 20 years so that should be enough time for you to find them.

[jhu72]

"The one part of the coup plot that has blown my mind, however, is the extent to which members of the bar led this bat shirt crazy illegal plot. Put aside the sleazy whack jobs like Giuliani, the Kraken and Jenna Ellis. It stuns me that real lawyers with serious legal jobs/credentials were in on this crazy illegality -- Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, Cleta Mitchell, and dozens of lawyer/legislators in Congress and at the state level. How any of them still hold a law license beggars belief."

Yup. Astonishing.

Dems have contested Trump's legitimacy from before the 2016 election to this day. I believe that the "mostly peaceful" crowd was purposely let into the building to disrupt the objection to seating the electors, which worked brilliantly BTW.

Complete and total nonsense, in every way and from every direction. No one contested the vote count in favor of the Moron. People contested the tactics of overtly involving a foreign government and historical enemy, and the use of digital misinformation attacks n are he election cycle, as it relates to Trump. And your “theory” about January 6 is delusional, particularly given what we now know about the antecedent efforts to delegitimize the election, get Pence to violate the law, and send faux electors to Congress. Laughable.

... agreed. There is no comparison between the democrat's behavior after Orange Duce's election and the republiCON's after Biden's.

[CU88]

Scott MacFarlane
@MacFarlaneNews
ALERT: Michigan GOP gubernatorial candidate Ryan Kelley is arrested in US Capitol breach case

Kelley is accused of gesturing crowd to move forward on the grounds on Jan 6

Charging docs detail his feature role in Nov 2020 Michigan "Stop the Steal rally"

https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/stat ... 0371012610

[dislaxxic]

HOLY CRAPOLY! Donald Trump is getting his butt kicked BIG TIME in the first half hour of this hearing!

They're heading straight for...and IMMEDIATELY...for his exposed jugular...

Jeebus!

[JoeMauer89]

HOLY CRAPOLY! Donald Trump is getting his butt kicked BIG TIME in the first half hour of this hearing!

They're heading straight for...and IMMEDIATELY...for his exposed jugular...

Jeebus!

Settle down fella. That kind of excitement should be saved for when your alone with a hot babe!

Joe

[Brooklyn]

ALERT: Michigan GOP gubernatorial candidate Ryan Kelley is arrested in US Capitol breach case


Throw away the key!

[ggait]

HOLY CRAPOLY! Donald Trump is getting his butt kicked BIG TIME in the first half hour of this hearing!

Not on Fox News.

First, FNC didn't even show the hearings.

Second, when I tuned in Laura Ingraham she was playing the story of a demonstrator who was in the Capital on 1/6 and who had pleaded guilty. And who then committed suicide while awaiting sentencing (which sentence would have been pretty light). And then was ranting about how the Dems were embarassing themselves. And how the only reason the hearings were going on was as a lame attempt to do better in the mid-terms.

If all you watch is FNC, then that narrative is going to be completely believed.

Total bonkers -- but gal of the people Laura (Dartmouth + UVA Law + SCOTUS clerkship) is laughing all the way to the bank.

[ggait]

I'm not an AOC fan generally. But when you're right, you're right:


Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
@AOC
Was it Clyde? Gosar? Gaetz? Jordan? Boebert? Greene? Others? Please remind us
@HouseGOP
- which of your current sitting members sought pardons after the attack?

In addition to
@RepScottPerry
of course
9:27 PM · Jun 9, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

Can't wait to hear Perry try to deny this. That Liz Cheney is a badass.

[Seacoaster(1)]

HOLY CRAPOLY! Donald Trump is getting his butt kicked BIG TIME in the first half hour of this hearing!

Not on Fox News.

First, FNC didn't even show the hearings.

Second, when I tuned in Laura Ingraham she was playing the story of a demonstrator who was in the Capital on 1/6 and who had pleaded guilty. And who then committed suicide while awaiting sentencing (which sentence would have been pretty light). And then was ranting about how the Dems were embarassing themselves. And how the only reason the hearings were going on was as a lame attempt to do better in the mid-terms.

If all you watch is FNC, then that narrative is going to be completely believed.

Total bonkers -- but gal of the people Laura (Dartmouth + UVA Law + SCOTUS clerkship) is laughing all the way to the bank.

Yup, and from a TV personality who was in direct contact with the White House Chief of Staff that day, imploring him to get the President to call off the dogs. The hypocrisy is at a level really unknown in our lifetimes.

[CU88]

The Proud Boys are a domestic terrorist organization.

[jhu72]

Newsmax apparently carried the committee hearing last night. Yesterday AM they changed their minds from not to carry. Suspect this is an effort to steal market share from Faux News. We will see.

[cradleandshoot]

The Proud Boys are a domestic terrorist organization.

So is BLM. They know how to raise beau coup $$$$$$$$$$$$$. They also understand how to use that $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to feather their nests. White guilt is a very profitable business. To their credit the leadership of BLM had figured out how to play this game all the way to the bank... Separating stupid white liberals from their money is childs play. OMG, this must be another one of my outrageous posts...