2022 NCAA Mens LAX tournament

[FannOLax]

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Ultimately, lacrosse is a tough sell in the midwest. Whenever I'm watching a game and someone comes over while it's on, the first question is always "Why are you watching lacrosse?"

Not just the Midwest: in NYC I've been told that lacrosse "is just a game for rich white boys." However, things change, just not overnight. Wider youth participation today could result in much greater viewership in 20 years, which happened with soccer in the US. For now, lacrosse's deeper roots in the Middle Atlantic and Northeast make said areas much better bets for hosting quarterfinals and Memorial Day weekend. Stadiums holding over 50,000 make no sense for quarterfinals.

It is that, at least for the most part (clearly less so in places like Canada and Upstate NY). So what?

So, ya think he said that because he was interested in watching a game?

[Farfromgeneva]

It's very difficult to compare teams from different eras but you would have to say, if Maryland goes on to win the tournament in the fashion they have been winning games, with the size, skill, and speed of the modern day athletes, along with the equipment to match, Maryland has a very strong argument as the best team ever.

You really have to measure a team's greatness by how it performed against, and how much it dominated, its peers at the time. If you could somehow resurrect the 1927 Yankees in their prime, I suspect they'd be beaten easily by any of today's major league teams. But none of today's teams dominated the game like those Yankees did then. Others have since hit more home runs in a season than Babe Ruth, but when he hit 60 it was more than were hit by any other team in the league. He dominated in his era like no one else has. But he'd probably have problems with today's 100 mph fast balls, especially under the lights. Doesn't make the Babe less great.

Maryland and Cornell dominated the 1976 season. Unbeaten Maryland's average winning margin was nine goals, unbeaten Cornell's eleven. Both opened up 9-0 leads in their NCAA quarterfinals, and cruised from there, with Cornell completing a 14-0 shutout. Both opened up 11-1 leads in their semifinals, Maryland over #4 Navy and Cornell over #3 Hopkins, and cruised from there. They were tied 12-12 after regulation in the finals. Only one could win, and that winner had to prevail over an equally dominant team. Lacrosse cognoscenti called them the two best teams ever.

Right it should be relative outperformance under the same conditions/environment.

[wgdsr]

I would add Cornell 76/77. Awesome team

88/89 Cuse team had a one goal differential over Hopkins i believe. In their 4? meetings. Didn't look it up,

'88 couldn't have been more than one game. they were bounced early in nc$$.

[10stone5]

1988
Syracuse (15–0) (#1) seed

1989
Syracuse (14–1) (#1)

1990
Syracuse (Vacated) (13–0) (#1)

1990 Tournament Finals
Syracuse - 3 6 5 7 - 21
Loyola - 2 3 0 4 - 9

Gait Teams, 42-1 over 3 years

[DALaxDad]

I'm also calling a MD Rutgers final MD win Logan 5 points. 2g 3 assists. Think he creates more than he finishes and wills his team to win that way

Edit* not going to say that MD is the best team ever but I will say there are 3 teams that can be debated between gait cuse teams, 22 terps, and 06 uva. Whichever you favor, there's a valid argument for all 3 imo

Check to see whether any of the teams you chose as the greatest team ever had every starter named an All-America including 4 on the First Team and 2 on the 2nd Team, as was the case with Cornell's undefeated National Champions in 1976, which team was named a "Team of Distinction" by USILA. Get back to me.

MD 1973 - 12 AAs
Attack: Pat O’Meally (1st), Ed Mullin (2nd),
Midfield: Frank Urso (1st), Doug Schreiber (1st), Doug Radebaugh (2nd), Gary Besosa (2nd), Larry Hubbard (HM), Brooks Sleeper (HM)
Defense: Mike Thearle (1st), Rick Avena (2nd), Ed Glatzel (3rd)
Goal: Bill O’Donnell (2nd)

Not a bad showing.

[Matnum PI]

MD 1973 - 12 AAs
Attack: Pat O’Meally (1st), Ed Mullin (2nd),
Midfield: Frank Urso (1st), Doug Schreiber (1st), Doug Radebaugh (2nd), Gary Besosa (2nd), Larry Hubbard (HM), Brooks Sleeper (HM)
Defense: Mike Thearle (1st), Rick Avena (2nd), Ed Glatzel (3rd)
Goal: Bill O’Donnell (2nd)

In case someone hasn't said it already, this 2022 MD team also has 12 AAs.

[flyerfan17]

Weather for tomorrow looks awful. Don't see anyway the games won't be delayed into the night

[nms]

and then the games happen on a grass field that has been soaked by rain/thunderstorms for most of a day. It may add an element of randomness to the results.

[Farfromgeneva]

and then the games happen on a grass field that has been soaked by rain/thunderstorms for most of a day. It may add an element of randomness to the results.

Life is always non linear and random

https://www.wsj.com/articles/charting-t ... 56?mod=mhp

[wgdsr]

Weather for tomorrow looks awful. Don't see anyway the games won't be delayed into the night

sounds like terps might have to play their semi game at the same time as the final. they'll be exhausted.

[Farfromgeneva]

The set up is building…

[HGK]

Weather for tomorrow looks awful. Don't see anyway the games won't be delayed into the night

sounds like terps might have to play their semi game at the same time as the final. they'll be exhausted.

Or Princeton

[Slim]

My pick...
Cornell 76-77 (& 78) 2 titles, 42-0 record
Best Player
Best Attackman
Best Middie
Best Defenseman
Best Goalie
Best Coach
No Violations!

[10stone5]

42 & 1, right ?

The 1978 finals was the start of that long stretch of finals
for Hopkins.
Hopkins went to 9 straight finals.

The 42 & 1 record matched the Gait team years.

[DALaxDad]

My pick...
Cornell 76-77 (& 78) 2 titles, 42-0 record
Best Player
Best Attackman
Best Middie
Best Defenseman
Best Goalie
Best Coach
No Violations!

BTW, my post for the 73 Terps was to keep them in the discussion. 1976 Cornell was the best team I've seen.

[Gobigred]

My pick...
Cornell 76-77 (& 78) 2 titles, 42-0 record
Best Player
Best Attackman
Best Middie
Best Defenseman
Best Goalie
Best Coach
No Violations!

BTW, my post for the 73 Terps was to keep them in the discussion. 1976 Cornell was the best team I've seen.

73 Terps should be in the discussion.

Only thirteen undefeated NCAA champions in 50+ years. This year could see one more. Only three times did two undefeated teams play for the championship.
-1976 Cornell over Maryland
-1981 UNC over Hopkins
-1984 Hopkins over Syracuse

[nms]

anyone know where the NCAA would post info if the start times of the games are delayed due to thunderstorms?
any chance they do it in advance, rather than let thousands of people go to the stadium to sit in a concourse for hours waiting for weather to clear?

[CU77]

Cornell game-day twitter would be likely to post the news of a delay:

https://twitter.com/cubigredgameday

[ardilla secreta]

anyone know where the NCAA would post info if the start times of the games are delayed due to thunderstorms?
any chance they do it in advance, rather than let thousands of people go to the stadium to sit in a concourse for hours waiting for weather to clear?

That would seem to depend on latest lightning strike. Policy requires suspension of play if lightning is within 8 miles and a suspension of 30 minutes from last strike. Get a lightning rod hat to stay apprised of latest strike. Paul Carcaterra would call the lightning “a beast”.

[nms]

The Weather Channel now says scattered thunderstorms possible at 1pm, likely at 2pm. Imagine the screaming if game 1 completes on time and game 2 is delayed 6 hours!