So—that’s it. And that’s going to be it for a long while. There are times (like here in this post) that I am accused of saying things I never said. It gets tiring at times defending myself and setting the record straight. Once I got accused of attacking another members daughter in posts when just the opposite was true. If I hadn't set the record straight at the time--that nasty unfounded accusation stays there. But I'm getting to the point where I wonder if it's worth it. Folks are going to believe what they want regardless of the facts. Happens all the time in the world. Why should this forum be any different?njbill wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 10:53 amI’m going to stick my nose in here because I think these are some things that need to be said.admin wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 9:49 am 1- If a post-er is trolling, report it. Do not attack them personally. Report it.
2- This Forum is like a party. And, at this party, we don't allow personal attacks and especially personal attacks by many against one individual post-er. If that post-er is a troll, see #1 above. If that post-er is unpopular, so be it. But... No personal attacks.
3- Inthe8m, remove your current signature.
I stopped posting about 11 months ago. When ONW and another poster continued to take shots at me, I decided to return because I had had enough of their repeated attacks.
I did not make attacks on you, Bill. I give examples in threads below.
I told them I would address their behavior in the no-holds-barred Hamsterdam, but neither took me up on that.
Here’s how I responded to your invitation to Hamsterdam:
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I don’t keep track of all of his inappropriate posts directed at me, but ONW has personally attacked me many times over the past couple of years,
Again--this is simply not true, Bill. Here are two prime examples:
One—the initial Charlotte North post that you engaged me on, though my post was not a quote of your post. Please follow the topic thread to its conclusion and you’ll see that I never attacked you:
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Two—other times you and I had words about North. Very civil from my perspective but you be the judge:
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and here:
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...including comparing me to Hitler and the Nazis last June (later deleted but up long enough for me to see it).
This was what I posted, and I never deleted it—it’s still there:
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and the clarification I gave at the time:
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I reported that to admin in a public post, but nothing was done. Many of his posts have been reported by other posters, both on the public forum and privately to admin, yet he was only suspended once.
Some of the posts ONW recently reported to admin had called him out for his regular trolling. Admin issued warnings in a couple of those instances. Yet at least twice in the last year or two, ONW has acknowledged that he trolls.
I believe it was some time last spring (no, I’m not going to search his thousands of posts to find the specific one) in which he acknowledged (I’m paraphrasing) that he at times intentionally posts things to provoke, aggravate, and annoy other posters. To me, that is the definition of trolling and an admission that he trolls.
On July 20, 2021 at 3:37 p.m. in his own thread on the Penalty Box board, ONW said:
I condensed his post for brevity and bolded certain language. If you want to read the whole thing, you can find it in the Penalty Box.OuttaNowhereWregget wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:37 pm Right off the top—I would like to say that I deserve to be in the penalty box for all the trolling I’ve done over the years, and in particular the one I pulled today.
First, I want to apologize to admin and Matnum PI. They have better things to do than to police my childish behavior.
DMac, seacoaster, 8meterPA, Bart, TL, MDlaxfan76 and anyone else I have ticked off with my self-indulgent trolling and for being a general all-around capital A A-hole.
So there you have it. ONW admits he trolls.
Here’s another misinterpretation. Admitting I trolled (past tense) and apologizing for it carries with it the cessation of such activity. Now, folks have all kinds of ideas these days as to what constitutes a troll or a trolling post. FanLax has defined it here:
under Unsportsmanlike Conduct
SECTION 4.
Subsection d.
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I have admitted to being wrong and have apologized in the past and will do so again in the future if need be. (By the way, I did use ONW in Feb '21 for a while simultaneously with Cletus on a deeper look.)
Ultimately, I rely on admin to rule the roost and keep me in line. He told me to chill recently. So I chilled. He was right. He has always been right in his warnings to me. One time I ignored him and did my deserved time in the box. I am trying to get better at certain things. But I won’t curtail my opinions on sports, games, pastimes (which is what we're supposed to be doing here--talking about games--you all know that, right?) because maybe someone won’t like them. That’s admin’s call. Me? I'm going to continue to do on this site what I've been doing for the last 3-1/2 years: write about the sport I love.
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