THE 2019 Hopkins Lacrosse Fallout Shelter (44, we want more!)

[bearlaxfan]

Always stretch before practicing karm sutra activities.

This is a good drill. Use it often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivm2d55bOY8

Issue I have with it is to much standing around. Split the team in half. More touches, more running. Every drill should attempt to incorporate hidden conditioning. The way this drill is run, it doesn't incorporate conditioning. too much down time.

Reminds me of the pre-game day end of practice call-and-response:
Coach: "In bed by 10 tonight"
Player (usually on the outside of the huddle): "And home by midnight."

[runrussellrun]

Always stretch before practicing karm sutra activities.

This is a good drill. Use it often.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivm2d55bOY8

Issue I have with it is to much standing around. Split the team in half. More touches, more running. Every drill should attempt to incorporate hidden conditioning. The way this drill is run, it doesn't incorporate conditioning. too much down time.

Reminds me of the pre-game day end of practice call-and-response:
Coach: "In bed by 10 tonight"
Player (usually on the outside of the huddle): "And home by midnight."

good one.

[ohmilax34]

Sub-Committee? Hopkins was doing better before all that stuff. Which doesn’t amount to much of substance. Drop Mic. None of it is causative.

Hopkins has manipulated its academic processes with the goal to rise in USNWR. It’s data manipulation.

The capital plan to make Hopkins more like UPenn was begun long before Daniels arrived.

His contract was renewed because Bloomberg likes him. He also help bail out the capital campaign. Can’t argue with Bloomberg having a huge input.

You can’t make adjustments if you don’t have the players to make them work. You first need to get the players. Tierney is having that pdobkentbis year as well.

Getting the players is a result of a complex interaction of a lot of strands. The assumption some have that the coach controls the outcome rather than is one part of the outcome is naive.

Coaching behavior? Please. If you are embarrassed stay home. Tierney is idolized as the best coach in decades af he and DP are very similar in their behavior on the sidelines and their demands of players. Others? Chic, Richie Moran. Simmons etc

Zinn? I hoped he would start but if he is going to be a liability on defense and be the mismatch to attack better he doesn’t.

Yoga and stretching are becoming standard and cut down on injuries

They do? Prove it.

Dr. Mirkin who coined the term RICE (rest, Ice, compression, Elevation) in his pook published in 1978 (The Sports medicine book, ISBN 0316574341) writes on his webpage that he was wrong and there is NO evidence of ice decreasing swelling or pain or accelerate healing. THe opposite is the evidence. Unfortunately, we all have been "icing" injuries ever since and assume "a lot of ice helps a lot".

How long does a dynamic stretch last? Are there more "injuries" in the second half of lacrosse games because there isn't a half time break dynamic stretch. Seriously, I would like to know. So when those "profile" players, (coach looks down a deep bench ) get to play in a blowout, or players like Zinn have been standing around for a quarter (20-30 minutes), the dynamic stretch routine has to be done before he goes on the field. And if you watch the dance routine 95% of the players arent' even doing it correctly, just going thru the motions. Goose step high kicks

It makes you feel good, stretching. And the dynamic was intended to replace the "warmup", which is a good thing to do. (just wondering the stretching routine for marathoners, you don't see dynamic stretching at cross country events )

Hopkins is famous for medical stuff, should be LOTS of research/studies on stretching and prevention of injuries. I haven't found any.

Disagree with the bolded part above. I go to a lot of cross country races and see dynamic stretching at every one of them and by most all of the teams. I attended a summer program for youth coaches several years ago that Hopkins nationally recognized strength coach stated that Hop doesn't do any endurance training - only speed workouts. Maybe that is part of the reason Hop runs out of gas in the 3rd and 4th quarters.

I stretch after exercise. Before I play lacrosse I try to run around a little and play catch with someone while moving and pick up a few ground balls.

It's been a little while and they've had a few strength coaches since the one who did the drill, but Syracuse did a 4x440 run, meaning they'd run 440 yards, take a little break and do it again, until they completed it 4 times. That seems like a good mix of speed and endurance.

[DMac]

If conditioning is an issue with the Hopkins mlaxers, have them go play the Hopkinettes in a sixty minute game playing wlax rules twice a week. That'll get 'em in good enough shape to play a sixty mlax game.
If conditioning is a problem (start from the top?) at Hopkins shame on you, it's inexcusable for this to even be considered a problem at Johns Hopkins lacrosse.

[viper]

Sub-Committee? Hopkins was doing better before all that stuff. Which doesn’t amount to much of substance. Drop Mic. None of it is causative.

Hopkins has manipulated its academic processes with the goal to rise in USNWR. It’s data manipulation.

The capital plan to make Hopkins more like UPenn was begun long before Daniels arrived.

His contract was renewed because Bloomberg likes him. He also help bail out the capital campaign. Can’t argue with Bloomberg having a huge input.

You can’t make adjustments if you don’t have the players to make them work. You first need to get the players. Tierney is having that pdobkentbis year as well.

Getting the players is a result of a complex interaction of a lot of strands. The assumption some have that the coach controls the outcome rather than is one part of the outcome is naive.

Coaching behavior? Please. If you are embarrassed stay home. Tierney is idolized as the best coach in decades af he and DP are very similar in their behavior on the sidelines and their demands of players. Others? Chic, Richie Moran. Simmons etc

Zinn? I hoped he would start but if he is going to be a liability on defense and be the mismatch to attack better he doesn’t.

Yoga and stretching are becoming standard and cut down on injuries

They do? Prove it.

Dr. Mirkin who coined the term RICE (rest, Ice, compression, Elevation) in his pook published in 1978 (The Sports medicine book, ISBN 0316574341) writes on his webpage that he was wrong and there is NO evidence of ice decreasing swelling or pain or accelerate healing. THe opposite is the evidence. Unfortunately, we all have been "icing" injuries ever since and assume "a lot of ice helps a lot".

How long does a dynamic stretch last? Are there more "injuries" in the second half of lacrosse games because there isn't a half time break dynamic stretch. Seriously, I would like to know. So when those "profile" players, (coach looks down a deep bench ) get to play in a blowout, or players like Zinn have been standing around for a quarter (20-30 minutes), the dynamic stretch routine has to be done before he goes on the field. And if you watch the dance routine 95% of the players arent' even doing it correctly, just going thru the motions. Goose step high kicks

It makes you feel good, stretching. And the dynamic was intended to replace the "warmup", which is a good thing to do. (just wondering the stretching routine for marathoners, you don't see dynamic stretching at cross country events )

Hopkins is famous for medical stuff, should be LOTS of research/studies on stretching and prevention of injuries. I haven't found any.

I can't argue for or against the use of Yoga and dynamic stretching. I believe it's not to heal injuries, but to prevent them, so I don't think RICE applies there. The one thing I do know is that Hopkins is not alone in the use of these things, many other programs at the College and HS level are using them as well - including several MIAA schools.

[HopFan16]

I don't think conditioning is an issue (neither is "stretching"—we're well beyond the point in which this thread has gone from a legitimate discussion of issues to absolute nonsense) but if it was, it would probably be because of roster depth and construction and not because of anything related to training or practice. The middle of the field specifically is extremely thin—there are two SSDMs who play virtually the entire game and one freshman who gets maybe one run per half; only two LSMs who ever see the field; a total of four guys (Kuhn, Reinson, Hubler, Zinn) who play on the wings; and for all the uncertainty at the offensive midfield, the first unit has remained completely unchanged (DeSimone, Concannon, Smith) while the second unit has turned into Keogh, Baskin, and some combination of freshman midfielders who have hardly touched the ball in all of their appearances combined. There is no depth—or, at least, the staff is reluctant to use it. Against Syracuse, Hop played 25 guys (one was the EMO specialist, one the man-down guy, so really it was 23) while Cuse played 27. Against Virginia, Hop played 23 while Virginia played 25, so in both cases the Jays played two fewer guys which might not seem like much and certainly doesn't come close to accounting for all of the issues they're having. Again—don't actually think conditioning is much of an issue—the Jays played hard for 60 minutes and I didn't notice anyone huffing and puffing on the field or on the sideline. If they were exhausted, it was mentally. The offense can only dodge to nowhere so many times, and the defense give up so many soft second-half goals, before the mind starts to implode.

One guy who I can promise you is well-conditioned is Evan Zinn. Kid runs like a horse.

[youthathletics]

It is definitely the bands fault, it makes the players angry listening to that old timer music and not want to score.

[jhu06]

they out gb'd uva, and the athleticism has been a conversation for years.

stats don't tell every story but the one that really stands out with a direct correlation of wins to losses is shots on goal if you look at the team stats page. I've given up on the ncaa page which is a confusing mess to use-they should get some of the baseballreference.com guys to help out. In losses the difference is 22-30 and in wins 27-21. Then there's the issue of why the middle of the game has been such a disaster with getting outscored 37-16 and then in the 4th 10-3 against cuse/uva although they finished nicely against delaware.

https://hopkinssports.com/cumestats.asp ... &year=2019

all this other stuff-admissions, crime in baltimore, the food at terrace, I don't care. It's what happens on the field. Also glad we've been mostly healthy so far this year so we don't have to hear that excuse. Heaven help us if a marr or foley had been hurt week 1.

Onto Michigan which should be a rout where they spend the second half either working on things-which is what they've done more of recently the last few years or giving depth guys a chance to play.

[HopFan16]

Onto Michigan which should be a rout where they spend the second half either working on things-which is what they've done more of recently the last few years or giving depth guys a chance to play.

Jays very nearly lost to Michigan last year. Go in expecting a rout and the season might be over before the clock even strikes 4pm in Ann Arbor. Obviously the Jays should—and simply must—win this game but it's foolish to expect anything other than a fairly close game. The Wolverines have had their struggles this year (and apparently Brent Noseworthy is injured?) but they were competitive against Notre Dame and will jump all over the Hopkins defense if they're not prepared. I'm also worried about the Jays looking at the schedule and their current record and wanting to do to much. If they look ahead for even a second, they'll lose this game, and that'll be that. The only hope at all for this season to extend beyond April 27 is to focus on one game at a time. Get one win.

[laxbro11]

I have been sitting back and reading different theories on why Hopkins is struggling. it is the warm ups, strength and conditioning, academics is too tough, it is too expensive. The bottom line is that it comes down to the players, can these players compete with the other teams. I will say that alot of it is on the coach and his practice/game plan. A top D1 Athlete should be in shape and have the ability to play the game. It is up to the coach to bring that out in a player.

[tech37]

Onto Michigan which should be a rout where they spend the second half either working on things-which is what they've done more of recently the last few years or giving depth guys a chance to play.

Who's going to rout whom?

[DMac]

I have been sitting back and reading different theories on why Hopkins is struggling. it is the warm ups, strength and conditioning, academics is too tough, it is too expensive. The bottom line is that it comes down to the players, can these players compete with the other teams. I will say that alot of it is on the coach and his practice/game plan. A top D1 Athlete should be in shape and have the ability to play the game. It is up to the coach to bring that out in a player.

Which is kinda like saying the thread made more sense when cats were a bigger part of it, now it's just the litter box of D1 lax.

[youthathletics]

At least the cat box is the right color to coordinate with the thread.

[WOMBAT, Mod Emeritus]

I have been sitting back and reading different theories on why Hopkins is struggling. it is the warm ups, strength and conditioning, academics is too tough, it is too expensive. The bottom line is that it comes down to the players, can these players compete with the other teams. I will say that alot of it is on the coach and his practice/game plan. A top D1 Athlete should be in shape and have the ability to play the game. It is up to the coach to bring that out in a player.

Which is kinda like saying the thread made more sense when cats were a bigger part of it, now it's just the litter box of D1 lax.

You’re welcome to leave at anytime.

[steel_hop]

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https://hopkinssports.com/cumestats.asp ... &year=2019

So looking back over the stats and just looking at the defensive side of the ball. Can anyone point to a specific reason why there was a dramatic jump in GAA from 2013 to 2014 and then another in 2015 such that Hopkins has now average GAA in double digits?
GAA
2010 - 9.6 (1st losing year)
2011 - 7.25
2012 - 7.43
2013 - 7.7
2014 - 8.9
2015 - 10.5
2016 - 11.6
2017 - 11.46
2018 - 9.7
2019 - 12.65

I've watched most of the game but the same things plaguing Hopkins in 2019 were the same ones hurting the teams over the past 5-6 years. Why that hasn't caused some type of change in strategy or philosophy is mind boggling.
- suboptimal goaltending. Only Brock last year was over .500 and it was only .506 saves percentage in the last 5 years.
- player personnel, lack of athletes at the SSDM position. Still an issue.
- defensive schemes that leave guys wide open. has been an issue forever. Well except when you have multiple 4 years starters that have 4.0.

One other point I'd like to address. Why has Hopkins, or most teams for that matter, gotten away from face-off men that can play. Hopkins was at its more dominate when it had guys like Harrison and the Peysers brothers taking face-offs. That is one change I'd like to see. Elimination of FOGOs. You can only sub your FOGO upon losing of possession and only your long stick can come off if you win the face-off.

[DMac]

I have been sitting back and reading different theories on why Hopkins is struggling. it is the warm ups, strength and conditioning, academics is too tough, it is too expensive. The bottom line is that it comes down to the players, can these players compete with the other teams. I will say that alot of it is on the coach and his practice/game plan. A top D1 Athlete should be in shape and have the ability to play the game. It is up to the coach to bring that out in a player.

Which is kinda like saying the thread made more sense when cats were a bigger part of it, now it's just the litter box of D1 lax.

You’re welcome to leave at anytime.

No worries, I won't eat any of the Hopkins young, they'll feast on 'em all by themselves.

[OCanada]

Total nonsense? I did say IF but between you and DO I choose DP to know who is best for the situation among the eligible.

[HopFan16]

Total nonsense? I did say IF but between you and DO I choose DP to know who is best for the situation among the eligible.

Best for what situation? Losing games?

[OCanada]

Let me rephrase when it comes to knowing who the best player is for a situation I think you are trying to punch up. But convince me you know more than the coaching staff

[51percentcorn]

Steelhop - it was too far back for me to do the "quote" thing but I get your point. I'm not saying Daniels has a great affinity for lacrosse and goes out of his way to show support for the sport to the level achieved by other Hopkins presidents. And I have zero idea what Ms. Shanahan's imapct has or has not been to the men's lacrosse team. Still, if you are #1 and #2 @ SPECTRE you get to take the credit when the extortion or counterterrorism is evident. Forget most of the fluff about buildings, committees and whatever, I guess where I come down on Daniels is that I have heard zero anecdotal stories of big time recruits not getting in to the school. The only anecdote I am familiar with recently is the Cornell fans being mildly bitter that Radzewicz couldn't get into Cornell but got into Hopkins. I actually think it is quite remarkable that all these lists compiled of Hopkins verbals when they are still being driven to practice by mom? Most of them end up coming to the school and those that don't appear not to be academic casualties.

And I think you have to go back to the Hopkins web-site and check your math. Of the sports comprised of true "teams" - not individuals doing things for team points - Hopkins has been wildly successful this past school year
Mens Basketball 18-9
Men's Soccer 13-5-2
Men's baseball - currently 14-5
Women's Hoops 23-5
Women's Field hockey 19-3
Women's Soccer 18-3
Women's Volleyball 22-8
Football 12-2
Women's lacrosse 10-2 (admittedly probably about to take some hits)

So only Men's water polo 9-18 and potentially a certain other team can be the only two teams in team sports with losing records