MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 4:08 pmQuite an interesting list. Let's just take the first one. Am I not "pro-family" if I'm cool with two men or two women married? Or does that make me not "pro-family"???Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 3:47 pmMDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:59 pmam I? Certainly on social issues that would be fair. But that's not how 'conservatism', much less "Republican", used to be defined.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 12:27 pmFor a so-called ‘former Republican’, you sure are liberal.MDlaxfan76 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 11:45 amIs it not dangerous?Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 10:16 amSeacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:42 amYou will never find a post from me calling the Federalist Society "evil." I know a ton more about it than you, and have many many friends -- real ones, not the pretend people you talk about -- that are members, who are conservatives, and who would laugh at talking point vomiters like you.Peter Brown wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 9:13 amSo the Federalist Society is no longer ‘evil’, right?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:50 amYes, and FWIW, a Trump-appointed Judge, Federalist Society member.jhu72 wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 8:29 am... I scanned the document. Am I correct that the court shot down the RNC totally, all issues?Seacoaster(1) wrote: ↑Mon May 02, 2022 7:02 am Order against the RNC on the January 6 Committee's subpoena:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 2.33.0.pdf
Alfred Ross, president and founder of the Institute for Democracy Studies (IDS) in New York, a George Soros fave: “It's extremely dangerous." Referring to the Federalist Society.
When granted the kind of power and control they, the org, had in the last Admin...or even more next time?
That said, dangerous does not equal "evil"...Nor does "Trump-apointed" mean "evil". Certainly being a member of the Federalist Society doesn't make one "evil".
I agree with seacoaster, many Federalist members, certainly conservative, would be grossed out by "talking point vomiters like you".
Perhaps the definition of "conservative" in your sort of parlance has changed radically from what it once was? Now it includes an embrace of totalitarians and bigots of all stripes?
But hey, I was never a social conservative, though I was also certainly not a bleeding edge progressive socially either. The more I learned throughout my life, the more liberal socially I became.
And I'm still a Republican.
Bothers you, doesn't it...
Doesn’t bother me in the least. That is, if you’re being honest.
Now dishonesty does bother me. Hypocrisy. Elitism. Arrogance. Those things chafe me big. As long as you’re not any of that, we’d get along great. But if someone is a dishonest, hypocritical, elitist, arrogant kind of fella, nah we’re not getting along. Think of Sheldon Whitehouse or John Kerry, people I viscerally hate: if you’re like either, it’s not gonna go well for ‘us’.
As for being a ‘conservative’, I’d say being pro-family, pro-common sense, pro-normal, pro-Free speech, pro-Bill of Rights really, pro-business, pro-American are essential hallmarks of conservatism. Are you any of that? If so, you’re likely a conservative.
Seems to me that I'm very pro-family when I support two people making a strong commitment to one another and to the raising of their children together.
But I also don't think it makes me not "pro-family" if I think it's important that someone being abused in a marriage should have our great concern and support, protection from the abuser. I'm also "pro-family" when I support teenage sex education and contraceptives and support of groups that help assist with family planning. That's "pro-family". Heck I also think that a mother who decides she wants an abortion rather than a fourth child should be able to do so without my making her feel guilty about making that choice...and that's "pro-family".
But by the current radical approach, these are ALL being considered "anti-family".
I can do the same with each of your faux list.
I know it might be hard for you to conceive, but many of us conservatives have friends who are gay in committed relationships. They might even have kids!! And amazingly, no one cares and no one beats their chest looking for others’ affirmation!!! Everyone just, uhhhhhh, lives.
The difference between you MD and a conservative is no conservative demands public adulation when we accept folks for who they are; I don’t see my gay friends and family as gay, I see them simply as good people.
I don’t ask others to praise me for having gay friends and family.
Honoring one’s self isn’t a conservative trait, fwiw.