youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:17 pm
In short, it has been infiltrated by our gov't, which then means it is forever doomed. Special interests now get involved b/c profit can be made, it then begins to erode which means some knuckleheads now have solutions to a problem they created, which then means more unintended consequences are certain. We've grossly over complicated teaching.
Yes. And this "don't say gay" is right in line with this....yet another thing you're telling the teacher to worry about....do you not see that?
That said........the reason for this over complication is simple: Conservatives refuse to invest in education in 2022. So what's the game?
1. cut spending to schools. In Colorado? You can make more money as a grocery bagger after 5 years than you can as a median Colorado teacher.
2. then make up for this ridiculous lack of funding, in part, via Dept of Ed...because conservative States hate high taxes.
2.a. then turn around and complain that the Dept. of Ed, that funds 20%-40% of all State educational funding wants a say in how you spend that money. So yep, now there's a reporting element that comes along with that Federal Money. You don't like that, right?
3. Then, each State compounds these problems by designating funding via school districts. Result: poor areas have sh*t schools, and rich areas like mine have palaces for schools. And, of course, the rich parents say "funding problem? What funding problem...the school MY kid goes to has a campus that looks like a DIII school with money to burn". So they refuse to pay higher State taxes to help the poor kids.
Wanna solve the problem? Raise State taxes, and eliminate the Dept. of Ed.
Fund all education through the State. Then the Federal government has no say, so long as all laws are followed regarding discrimination. And you'll have poor kids with palaces for schools, instead of ONLY the rich areas. Or......a State can choose to make all schools complete sh*tboxes. Their choice. But you know doggone well what will happen...the rich families will demand more funding for schools. Problem solved.
youthathletics wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 2:41 pm
I still struggle with your stake in the ground about making gov't bigger...just seems like line in the sand for you that clouds your opportunity to see something for what it is not.
For decades, the game was: conservatives wanted limited government, limited spending, pay as you go, and limited regulations. Having two parties gave you a choice: do you want more government services and regulations with higher taxes? Or do you want less government services, fewer regulations, and low taxes.
I DESPERATELY want that choice, YA. Because without it? I now have NO choice between candidates and parties. They all do the same thing.....spend more, borrow more. Literally the ONLY thing I don't want my government to do....especially at the Federal level.
Conservatives now play the game of taking money from the Federal government (all of it borrowed, naturally) to enable their Big Gov spending, all while claiming to be small government conservatives.
Bot to my point: if that's not what the R's stand for? What is their platform? What will they give me that the Dems won't? Seems to me, it's all a bunch of cultural stuff.....trying to legislate culture. That doesn't work. Over time, culture moves, and laws can't stop it. I have no interest in legislating culture. It doesn't work.
a fan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:51 pm
I still do not believe RD is playing with hate, I think the real fundamental intent is to try and stick with core educational methods and NOT allow the special interests to muck things up even more. But yes....I agree, comes off as looking bad IF you want it to.
We never did that, YA. What your teachers did was indoctrinate your kids with the typical WASP viewpoint.
Here's just one example: did you get Xmas break as a kid? Or did you get Hannukah break?
We've been indoctrinating our kids in schools from the word go, YA. The difference is? It was YOUR Christian values that were getting crammed down everyone's throats, so you didn't think to complain. Now I don't have a problem with this indoctrination....but that means you have let others in a school district have their views in books and lessons as well. Simple fairness. American way, and all that.
Here's Denver Public Schools calendar, YA. Now if you REALLY believe what you're selling? You should be outraged that this district would tell folks that they have time off to celebrate Christianity. It's right there....it ain't "Holiday break", no sir. It's Christmas break. And this is just ONE example. Did you save your kids K-6 textbooks? Have a look.....one of the core things taught in schools is family, same as it ever was. Did they HAVE to do that? Nope. But they did. Still do here in 2022. So.....why is this ok, but you just can't stomach telling a kid that there's such a thing as two dads?
BTW, this year? Jewish kids don't get the first two days of their holiday off. How is this ok, if indoctrination of students is off the table?
https://publicholidays.com/us/school-ho ... c-schools/
a fan wrote: ↑Thu Apr 21, 2022 3:51 pm
Full circle....from my reply on what happened to our educational system. I have zero issue with with LGBT voices...I just believe it does not belong in school. I suppose it might be because I am a minimalist and all that 'other stuff' becomes noise that chips away at the fundamentals of education.
Well, it would have made sense to complain, oh, about 100 years ago...because they've been teaching about sex, gender, family, boys, girls, and all of that stuff this whole time. So....you understand that it looks bad to start complaining NOW, I'd hope?
You're giving someone you called "Trump light" waaaaay too much credit if you think he passed this law because (come on, really?) he's a "teaching fundamentalist" who wants to teach Reading, Riting, and Rithmatic. You know better. He found a cause, and he's milking it.