Syracuse 2022

[rolldodge]

I think it’s more the fact that Petro apparently calls the timeouts, which no assistant in the country does, and that he’s the one in the huddles and who appears to be running the box. Gait never appears to actually be doing any coaching on the sideline.

Gait not calling the timeouts is wild, I've never seen a head coach who delegates those duties before

Not a good look.

[ohmilax34]

I think it’s more the fact that Petro apparently calls the timeouts, which no assistant in the country does, and that he’s the one in the huddles and who appears to be running the box. Gait never appears to actually be doing any coaching on the sideline.

Is this actually the case or was it just the timeout with 0.3 seconds remaining at the end of the 1st quarter vs. Duke that Petro called?

[HopFan16]

I think it’s more the fact that Petro apparently calls the timeouts, which no assistant in the country does, and that he’s the one in the huddles and who appears to be running the box. Gait never appears to actually be doing any coaching on the sideline.

Is this actually the case or was it just the timeout with 0.3 seconds remaining at the end of the 1st quarter vs. Duke that Petro called?

Petro was calling timeouts against Cornell which is the only reason I know about it, didn't even know about the Duke game. Anish pointed it out on the broadcast

[MoralTerpitude]

I think it’s more the fact that Petro apparently calls the timeouts, which no assistant in the country does, and that he’s the one in the huddles and who appears to be running the box. Gait never appears to actually be doing any coaching on the sideline.

Is this actually the case or was it just the timeout with 0.3 seconds remaining at the end of the 1st quarter vs. Duke that Petro called?

Petro was calling timeouts against Cornell which is the only reason I know about it, didn't even know about the Duke game. Anish pointed it out on the broadcast

Yeah that’s why I ask. I know Gait is stoic, but Petro is calling the timeouts and seems to be giving direction to the team on both sides of the ball during breaks.

[DMac]

If you're a Cuse hater you've got to be absolutely savoring this year. It is really hard to watch this team, inept might be understating the quality. Golden opportunity after golden opportunity bungled, can't hit the cage from the crease, struggle to play pass and catch...man are they awful. You can try to sell me on Dordevic all you want but I aint buyin'. Sorry, but this guy takes wayyyy too many absolutely horrible shots that just end up being nothing more than a TO. Am not the least bit excited that he'll be back again next year. Cuse needs a complete overhaul and an offense that knows more than a 1v1 game. Worst Cuse team I've ever seen. Face offs wins games? I don't think so.

[joewillie78]

If you're a Cuse hater you've got to be absolutely savoring this year. It is really hard to watch this team, inept might be understating the quality. Golden opportunity after golden opportunity bungled, can't hit the cage from the crease, struggle to play pass and catch...man are they awful. You can try to sell me on Dordevic all you want but I aint buyin'. Sorry, but this guy takes wayyyy too many absolutely horrible shots that just end up being nothing more than a TO. Am not the least bit excited that he'll be back again next year. Cuse needs a complete overhaul and an offense that knows more than a 1v1 game. Worst Cuse team I've ever seen. Face offs wins games? I don't think so.

Dmac,
They played hard, they didn't quit. I know it's frustrating for a team that expects to compete for a NC every year, but they have a new staff, with a different system, and that's hard on everyone.
I know you are not a fan of TD, and that's fine, as he probably needs a change of scenery, and I do expect him to possibly enter the portal BUT their recruiting class coming in is scary as it includes the #1 rated player and his brother and a couple other 5 star guys, so yes, the Orange haters can bask in their morass this year, but the Orange will be back to their formidable selves next year. Can't wait to watch next year's big red/orange game next year at the Kopf.
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

[jrn19]

Syracuse has 2 dudes who can move the defense and one of them was hurt. Dordevic has to take shots. No one else is capable of getting shots. It's 2 dodgers and 4 off ball dudes who can't even beat shortsticks. Even with Hiltz coming back and Spallina in, they will be worse off if they don't have him next year. He's one of the preeminent dodgers and shooters in the country being asked to do EVERYTHING. Of course he'll be inefficient when he has to have the ball in his stick the whole game.

Real issue has been the defense, but that was always a multi year project. I think the thing that will trouble the staff and fans is that haven't improved the intangibles and little things that plagued team last few years under Desko. That stuff is fixable and hasn't been done and why they're 4-8.

[HopFan16]

Dordevic is shooting 30% which is not amazing but not bad for a very high volume shooter in a bad offense. He's quite literally the last person to be blaming right now

[DMac]

I'm not putting the entire blame on #23, 16, and we'll just agree to disagree here. Put it this way, if he were to transfer to Hop I'd be happy for you but happier for me. I don't want a player who brings the O to a halt when the ball hits his stick, his mind is made up that he's going to shoot when he gets the ball and that's what he does. Doubled, tripled, no problem just dance and pivot and get a shot off. Quantity matters, quality not so much.
Yup, the D has had their problems but it was the O and their poor shooting that lost this game. How many golden opportunities were flat out blown because they failed to put the ball in the cage....including from the doorstep? NC
tried to give this game to Cuse many different ways and many different times but Cuse just kept refusing the offers.
Just a horrible team and Carolina's not a whole lot better. JMHO.

[jrn19]

What other options does he have but to shoot? No one else who he passes to is going to beat their man. No one else is a particularly good off ball cutter. The best option for that offense is him shooting.

[MoralTerpitude]

Not to rub salt on the wounds of an already rough season… but Terry Foy is harsh.

In talking about Virginia in his weekly IL men’s rankings:
“They head to the Carrier Dome to take on an Orange team playing its national semifinal vs. them on Saturday (the ’Cuse’s NCAA championship will come vs. Notre Dame on May 1)”

!!!

[stupefied]

Not to rub salt on the wounds of an already rough season… but Terry Foy is harsh.

In talking about Virginia in his weekly IL men’s rankings:
“They head to the Carrier Dome to take on an Orange team playing its national semifinal vs. them on Saturday (the ’Cuse’s NCAA championship will come vs. Notre Dame on May 1)”

!!!

Fair shot. paying the price for some poor recruiting classes from 18-21. Should have copied Maryland blueprint, import as many top transfers as possible to assist the core and make believe its a organically grown team.

[10stone5]

What other options does he have but to shoot? No one else who he passes to is going to beat their man. No one else is a particularly good off ball cutter. The best option for that offense is him shooting.

Not many,
that guy isn’t getting the credit he should get for having
to carry that team’s offense,
as bad or at least limited as it may be.
To re-iterate what 16 above said,
Dordevic is getting unfairly hammered for Syracuse’s faults.

[MoralTerpitude]

Not to rub salt on the wounds of an already rough season… but Terry Foy is harsh.

In talking about Virginia in his weekly IL men’s rankings:
“They head to the Carrier Dome to take on an Orange team playing its national semifinal vs. them on Saturday (the ’Cuse’s NCAA championship will come vs. Notre Dame on May 1)”

!!!

Fair shot. paying the price for some poor recruiting classes from 18-21. Should have copied Maryland blueprint, import as many top transfers as possible to assist the core and make believe its a organically grown team.

It’s nice for players to want to come to your school. Even nicer when you have a coach who can make them look like they were there all along.

Btw IIRC ‘Cuse “imported” a pretty good player too… until everything went completely sideways.

[stupefied]

Not to rub salt on the wounds of an already rough season… but Terry Foy is harsh.

In talking about Virginia in his weekly IL men’s rankings:
“They head to the Carrier Dome to take on an Orange team playing its national semifinal vs. them on Saturday (the ’Cuse’s NCAA championship will come vs. Notre Dame on May 1)”

!!!

Fair shot. paying the price for some poor recruiting classes from 18-21. Should have copied Maryland blueprint, import as many top transfers as possible to assist the core and make believe its a organically grown team.

It’s nice for players to want to come to your school. Even nicer when you have a coach who can make them look like they were there all along.

Btw IIRC ‘Cuse “imported” a pretty good player too… until everything went completely sideways.

Gait didnt get involved , maybe he will do a Maryland oor Rutgers shopping spree this offseason. Know Tillman will have to go heavy once again with so many older Maryland players . Imagine all your transfers on Cuse, be such a good "homegrown' team right now

[MoralTerpitude]

Not to rub salt on the wounds of an already rough season… but Terry Foy is harsh.

In talking about Virginia in his weekly IL men’s rankings:
“They head to the Carrier Dome to take on an Orange team playing its national semifinal vs. them on Saturday (the ’Cuse’s NCAA championship will come vs. Notre Dame on May 1)”

!!!

Fair shot. paying the price for some poor recruiting classes from 18-21. Should have copied Maryland blueprint, import as many top transfers as possible to assist the core and make believe its a organically grown team.

It’s nice for players to want to come to your school. Even nicer when you have a coach who can make them look like they were there all along.

Btw IIRC ‘Cuse “imported” a pretty good player too… until everything went completely sideways.

Gait didnt get involved , maybe he will do a Maryland oor Rutgers shopping spree this offseason. Know Tillman will have to go heavy once again with so many older Maryland players . Imagine all your transfers on Cuse, be such a good "homegrown' team right now

Alright, I’ll take the bait. First off, the only 2021 transfers that are getting alot of time this year are Donville and Khan, both grads. Prybylski is a back-up. Wisnauskas transferred after red-shirting his freshman year, so he never played for the Orange. And Murphy transferred in after skipping a year at Hopkins… clearly not a Milliman guy. He’s also a back-up middie/attackman.

In terms of versus last year, their only major loss was Bernhardt. So the guys coming in had to compete to win spots. Donville was competing with a 40-goal scorer for a starting position. Think about that. They risked using their graduate year playing as back-ups. But they came anyway… you gotta figure the Terrapin lacrosse culture is a big part of that.

You’re right, the Terps will lose a ton of talent this year, much more than last year. But Tillman will find a way (transfers or not) to build a team that can be competitive. It’s what he’s done every year he’s been at Maryland.

[jrn19]

Nothing exemplifies loser energy more than complaining about the transfer portal. It’s part of the game. Either use it and make your team better or don’t use it and be good the old fashioned way. But if you’re 4-7, the only people to blame are yourselves. Whining about other teams success is just loser turd

[stupefied]

Nothing exemplifies loser energy more than complaining about the transfer portal. It’s part of the game. Either use it and make your team better or don’t use it and be good the old fashioned way. But if you’re 4-7, the only people to blame are yourselves. Whining about other teams success is just loser turd

Nothing exemplifies blowhards who never played the game than going out of their way to incessantly kick a program when its down while boasting about a team that would be average if not for heavy importing of other teams developed talent.

[HopFan16]

Alright, I’ll take the bait. First off, the only 2021 transfers that are getting alot of time this year are Donville and Khan, both grads. Prybylski is a back-up. Wisnauskas transferred after red-shirting his freshman year, so he never played for the Orange. And Murphy transferred in after skipping a year at Hopkins… clearly not a Milliman guy. He’s also a back-up middie/attackman.

Prybylski is your #2 LSM — he's not a "back-up." Teams play 2 LSMs. Murphy is not a back-up either. To say he isn't getting a lot of time is simply untrue. He is out there a TON. Not sure what the point is of trying to undersell what their roles are

[molo]

I would not call Murphy a backup. He is a second middie who sometimes plays attack for Malever. He is not a "starter" but plays regularly and at meaningful times. The second dm is not a backup either. In fact, the good teams rotate four dms pretty regularly. To me, a backup is a player who wouldn't play in a competitive game. Yes, only 10 "start," but more than 20 see the field regularly.