Conservative Ideology 2024: NOTHING BUT LIES AND FEARMONGERING

[Peter Brown]

CU88, thank for sharing that opinion piece.

IMO, it's a fair analysis of the challenge we face, as is the typical reaction it generated here.

Nothing "typical " here MD. HCR is a blithering FLP moronic idiot. The fair analysis of the challenge we face is that some of you folks idiolize the ignorance espounced by a dumbass such as HCR. She is quoted here in this forum as if she was knew what she was talking about. HCR is like Viagra to some of you folks.

The reaction was your not bothering to read it. Typical.

My reaction Scooter pie is I have wasted more than enough of my time reading the horsechit she has to say from many links posted here by our fellow FLP friends over many months. Reading any horsechit HCR has to say became an industrial strength waste of my time a long time ago. Knock yourself the eff out I'm willing to delegate you as my representative for reading and swallowing every single bit of FLP tripe she wants to write. In that regard I find you very highly qualified. I feel a little guilty putting such a huge responsibility on your shoulders. I know your up to the challenge.

As I said, typical.

You respond exactly the same way to any post over a few paragraphs from a poster/author with whom you assume you will disagree. Never a word of counter analysis, just calling it "horsechit" and "FLP".

So, "typical" for you.

So, too was Petey's "squirrel" response.

And yeah, I find those "typical" responses to be part of the challenge we, as a nation, face in preserving democracy.

What’s that cliche about insanity, doing the same thing over a thousand times expecting a different result? Why would anyone let alone Cradle bother to read this straight crackpots editorials-?!

[cradleandshoot]

CU88, thank for sharing that opinion piece.

IMO, it's a fair analysis of the challenge we face, as is the typical reaction it generated here.

Nothing "typical " here MD. HCR is a blithering FLP moronic idiot. The fair analysis of the challenge we face is that some of you folks idiolize the ignorance espounced by a dumbass such as HCR. She is quoted here in this forum as if she was knew what she was talking about. HCR is like Viagra to some of you folks.

The reaction was your not bothering to read it. Typical.

My reaction Scooter pie is I have wasted more than enough of my time reading the horsechit she has to say from many links posted here by our fellow FLP friends over many months. Reading any horsechit HCR has to say became an industrial strength waste of my time a long time ago. Knock yourself the eff out I'm willing to delegate you as my representative for reading and swallowing every single bit of FLP tripe she wants to write. In that regard I find you very highly qualified. I feel a little guilty putting such a huge responsibility on your shoulders. I know your up to the challenge.

As I said, typical.

You respond exactly the same way to any post over a few paragraphs from a poster/author with whom you assume you will disagree. Never a word of counter analysis, just calling it "horsechit" and "FLP".

So, "typical" for you.

So, too was Petey's "squirrel" response.

And yeah, I find those "typical" responses to be part of the challenge we, as a nation, face in preserving democracy.

Like I said, my respect for you decreases more and more everyday. I get the fact your a faux Republican FLP liberal RINO. Tell me again why you will NEVER be the featured speaker at the RNC? Tell me again why the RNC would never let you in the building? It is disegenuous of you to claim to represent a political party that would disavow everything you believe in. You and the republican party should have divorced years ago. The time is long past for you to admit your now a FLP Democrat. There is no shame in you admitting your change of parties. There is huge humiliation in pretending to be a Republican as a member of a party you openly detest...

[MDlaxfan76]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

[Peter Brown]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

You had to pull out the Ivy League card. It’s always just below the surface.

Two minute unreleasable. Yellow flag.

[MDlaxfan76]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

You had to pull out the Ivy League card. It’s always just below the surface.

Two minute unreleasable. Yellow flag.

Boy, you have an even thinner skin than I thought.
You think anyone not Ivy is "uneducated"??? That's what I meant? really?
Mebbe you should have gone to more classes at GatorU.

[cradleandshoot]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

[MDlaxfan76]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

[Peter Brown]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a media gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. There are tons of topics to cover as a conservative; Trump is merely one of a million of them.

So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

[MDlaxfan76]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

[cradleandshoot]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

FTR and you may not believe me, I like and admire Mitt Romney. I have never forgiven him for his pathetic response or lack thereof in his debate with BHO. He asked BHO a question that is even more relevant today. BHO slapped him away like he was a fly buzzing around his forehead. Mitt, the 80s called and they want their foreign policy back. Mitt backed down and aquiesed to BHOs verbal tongue lashing. For effs sake Mitt was correct 100%. The recent events proved Mitt was right. Mitt didn't have the balls to call out BHO. It still pisses me off that Mitt caved and looked stupid doing so. I guess in your world of moderate wishy washyness Mitt did the right thing. In my perspective, looking for a leader, Mitt failed the the test. Mitt is a very nice guy. He just is incapable of standing up for his core values. FTR, I wish Liz Cheney would run for POTUS. The confusion and chaos suddenly thrown into the FLP would be delightful to witness. They have been carrying her water for months. Then all of a sudden... eff she is Dick Cheneys daughter.. now whatta we do? Dick Cheney was evil before there was a DJT.

[Peter Brown]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

[cradleandshoot]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

Don't you worry none. If Liz Cheney decides to run for POTUS the FLP jackals on this forum will turn on her on a dime. We will all "suddenly" be reminded her father is Dick Cheney that loath some war mongering creature that he is. I'm betting that even our resident faux liberal republican will throw her ass under the bus. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

[Farfromgeneva]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

You had to pull out the Ivy League card. It’s always just below the surface.

Two minute unreleasable. Yellow flag.

Boy, you have an even thinner skin than I thought.
You think anyone not Ivy is "uneducated"??? That's what I meant? really?
Mebbe you should have gone to more classes at GatorU.

Oh that skin is paper thin. That’s what all the protesting, projecting, idiotic use of emojis constantly and general behavior here reeks of someone completely insecure.

[Peter Brown]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

Don't you worry none. If Liz Cheney decides to run for POTUS the FLP jackals on this forum will turn on her on a dime. We will all "suddenly" be reminded her father is Dick Cheney that loath some war mongering creature that he is. I'm betting that even our resident faux liberal republican will throw her ass under the bus. I could be wrong but I doubt it.

It’s safe to assume that if Liz was the Republican POTUS nominee, she’d no longer be called ‘courageous’; instead, overnight she’d be ‘racist’ ‘sexist’ ‘homophobic’ ‘anti trans’ blah blah blah. We know the drill.

[MDlaxfan76]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

Yes, this GOP.

[Seacoaster(1)]

It appears that Tucker's latest "documentary" is autobiographical:

https://news.yahoo.com/tucker-carlson-s ... p_catchall

[Peter Brown]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

Yes, this GOP.

Should’ve been more precise for the ‘lifelong Republicans’: she’s invited (heck we still donate to her), but no one wants to speak with her for now. She’ll always be invited, unless she goes full *The View* on us.

Hoping she discovers another topic besides ‘Trump’, soon.

[MDlaxfan76]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

Yes, this GOP.

Should’ve been more precise for the ‘lifelong Republicans’: she’s invited (heck we still donate to her), but no one wants to speak with her for now. She’ll always be invited, unless she goes full *The View* on us.

Hoping she discovers another topic besides ‘Trump’, soon.

"we" Mrs Lindbergh???

Nope, the money coming into Liz is from the never Trumpers, whether deep conservative or moderate GOP.

You authoritarian boot lickers have rejected her.

[a fan]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

Yes, this GOP.

Should’ve been more precise for the ‘lifelong Republicans’: she’s invited (heck we still donate to her), but no one wants to speak with her for now. She’ll always be invited, unless she goes full *The View* on us.

Hoping she discovers another topic besides ‘Trump’, soon.

She has... but todller-logic nation doesn't want to hear it.....so instead of paying attention to Liz Cheney herself and what she says, toddler-logic nation thinks that what "FoxNews tell them Liz Cheney says" is the same thing as listening to Liz Cheney herself. Nice job, Pete.

Her last four tweets? A very Christian Happy Easter message, a note about out of control spending, a note about rising inflation, and a note about increasing uranium mining in Wyoming so we have a strategic reserve of the stuff. Boilerplate 1970's conservatism.

No mention of Trump. But sure, keep lying to us ...well, pretty everything these days....as you follow the R party line as if your life depends on it.

Keep giving them money, Petey! They'll fix everything!

[Peter Brown]

As if I care what you think of me, cradle...heck, I don't care what all these racists and other bigots who have overtaken the GOP think of me either.

It does make me chuckle when I'm considered "far left". The world is upside down, I guess, at least in the deluded world of the uneducated and hard right.

Then your party has left you an orphan? It should make you at least wonder a little bit why you are labeled " far left" I know many people who profess to be lifelong Republicans. My best friend and former neighbor is a " lifelong" Republican. He quit the party shortly before he moved to South Carolina. His old man was a navigator on a B17 that flew his 25 missions over Germany. His old man started with diddly jack squat and started his own janitorial business after the war. He did well enough that he was a millionaire several times over when he sold his business. He was a " lifelong" republican just like you claim to be. They held the same political philosophy my mom held as a lifelong democrat. The worst member of their party was always better than the best candidate from the other party. Define for me please what a lifelong republican should think and believe?? You bloviate in nauseating fashion what you profess to believe how "lifelong" Republicans should think and behave. For some strange reason all of those Republicans of the lifelong variety that I know have nothing in common with your vision of the party. I don't give a flying eff what you claim to be. I do know that your not a Republican as I understand the party to be. Whatever you are you and Mittens have one thing in common.. neither one of you will be invited to the RNC in 2024. There is a difference between being a moderate and having no core beliefs whatsoever other than you hate your own party.

Well, you sure seem to care.

I very much disagree with what I bolded in red. Always did, I dunno about your friend, but I was always interested in the specific individual over party. That said, sure have voted for an awful lot of Republicans over the years.

I'm cool with being associated with Mitt Romney, yes, a lifelong Republican, and chosen by the GOP as their nominee for President. I'd associate just fine with his dad as well.

Yes, the nut jobs and bigots and insurrectionists are fully in control of the GOP right now. Not only is the former nominee for POTUS just 10 years ago a "RINO" to some, heck Liz Cheney, who is as conservative and rock ribbed Republican as they come, is now a pariah to the GOP!

Sheesh, 57% of "Republicans" think the Jan 6 insurrection was "patriotic"...so, yeah, I'm not one of those "Republicans".

I'm just fine with that.

Lots to unpack here but I’m only going to address the Liz Cheney card.

Liz isn’t welcome to any Republican event not because she’s no longer conservative, but because the only thing she apparently has the capacity to discuss is Donald J Trump, which makes her an unwitting tool of leftist media. So we then have a choice: is she dumb, or is she angling for a nexus gig? It’s one or the other, bit nothing else. So whatever it is, she’s hurting her party, hence the exclusion.

Yup, she's not in the part of the GOP, 57%, who think Jan 6 was a "patriotic" event. She's putting country over "party", something that used to be applauded roundly by R's and D's alike.

But is she really "hurting her party" or is the GOP itself destroying its moral credibility to lead our democracy?

How many votes has Liz missed? How many has she not voted with the GOP?
She's doing her job and voting her conscience.

But yup, she's a pariah.
Why? She's demanding accountability, again a core value of conservative ideology.

so, what's that tell us about this GOP?

There’s something about your anti Republicanism which rings hollow, provided you insist you’re a Republican of course.

‘this GOP’.

Mitch McConnell just donated to Liz. She also just reported record fundraising, nearly all of which came from Republicans.

But ‘this GOP’.

Yes, this GOP.

Should’ve been more precise for the ‘lifelong Republicans’: she’s invited (heck we still donate to her), but no one wants to speak with her for now. She’ll always be invited, unless she goes full *The View* on us.

Hoping she discovers another topic besides ‘Trump’, soon.

She has... but todller-logic nation doesn't want to hear it.....so instead of paying attention to Liz Cheney herself and what she says, toddler-logic nation thinks that what "FoxNews tell them Liz Cheney says" is the same thing as listening to Liz Cheney herself. Nice job, Pete.

Her last four tweets? A very Christian Happy Easter message, a note about out of control spending, a note about rising inflation, and a note about increasing uranium mining in Wyoming so we have a strategic reserve of the stuff. Boilerplate 1970's conservatism.

No mention of Trump. But sure, keep lying to us ...well, pretty everything these days....as you follow the R party line as if your life depends on it.

Keep giving them money, Petey! They'll fix everything!

I’d be ecstatic if she’d have moved along, but what you’re looking at is her staff produced member account, not her personal account. Her personal account is chock full of ‘Putin Republican’ this and ‘Trump autocrat’ that.

She’s auditioning for a network show in case she loses. The gods highest truth is I don’t care if she wins or loses. If pushed, I’d rather Harriet (opponent) win, if for no other reason than Liz would be forced to stop simping for the left filling that nevertrump card.

And if she wins? Fine with that too. Most Republicans feel as I do.