Who is supporting the immigrant caravan?

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jhu72 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:57 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 3:32 pm In the article '72 linked the only example of arrests of undocumented aliens were those caught in conjunction with the arrest of targeted convicted criminals, which would require no increased ICE manpower.

Plus it pointed out that deportations were lower than previous year due to the diversion of ICE agents to deal with the border crisis of family units & UAC.
The new numbers released Thursday also show a drop in the overall number of arrests made by ICE agents. The 11,178 undocumented immigrants arrested in December mark the lowest monthly total of the Trump administration, which Asher said is a direct result of the migrant caravans that have been flooding the southwest border.
Sorry, you can't spin this into some side effect of the way ICE is doing their job. The article clearly says ICE has been instructed to pursue all illegals regardless of criminal activities, past or present, based on the DHS directive of February 2017.

It is all about reducing the immigrant population by any means necessary. Bad Hombres....sure.
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old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:35 am
CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:23 am 9 YO US citizen child, with valid ID, held 36 hours.

CBP officers accused her of lying about her identity. Officers told the girl she didn’t look like the girl in her passport card picture.

9 years old!

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/ ... 37381.html

We all know which "type" of US citizen the r's want to protect.

So proud to be an American....
Curious...what's it like being God CU88? :lol:
Hammer CBP for doing their job & hammer them again if they miss a child trafficked :
The girl showed NBC San Diego her passport card, which has a picture of her from when she was much younger.
Update your passport picture.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/9-yea ... spartandhp

Sure, update the passport. That does not however explain holding her for 30+ hours. They apparently believed her brother's passport and let him go along with the two other children. This is a major screw up by border agents. They have been accused of coercing a signed document from the brother stating the girl was his cousin not his sister. Now the excuse is they thought she might have been a victim of human trafficking. Again, but not the children she was walking across the border with.

THESE PEOPLE AT DHS ARE LYING IDIOTS! They can't just admit they made a big mistake.
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old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:35 am
CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:23 am 9 YO US citizen child, with valid ID, held 36 hours.

CBP officers accused her of lying about her identity. Officers told the girl she didn’t look like the girl in her passport card picture.

9 years old!

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/ ... 37381.html

We all know which "type" of US citizen the r's want to protect.

So proud to be an American....
Curious...what's it like being God CU88? :lol:
Hammer CBP for doing their job & hammer them again if they miss a child trafficked :
The girl showed NBC San Diego her passport card, which has a picture of her from when she was much younger.
Update your passport picture.
Nice, blame the 9 yo for growing. US passport, for minors, is valid for 5 years.

Deplorable is as Deplorable does...
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jhu72 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:25 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:35 am
CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:23 am 9 YO US citizen child, with valid ID, held 36 hours.

CBP officers accused her of lying about her identity. Officers told the girl she didn’t look like the girl in her passport card picture.

9 years old!

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/ ... 37381.html

We all know which "type" of US citizen the r's want to protect.

So proud to be an American....
Curious...what's it like being God CU88? :lol:
Hammer CBP for doing their job & hammer them again if they miss a child trafficked :
The girl showed NBC San Diego her passport card, which has a picture of her from when she was much younger.
Update your passport picture.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/9-yea ... spartandhp

Sure, update the passport. That does not however explain holding her for 30+ hours. They apparently believed her brother's passport and let him go along with the two other children. This is a major screw up by border agents. They have been accused of coercing a signed document from the brother stating the girl was his cousin not his sister. Now the excuse is they thought she might have been a victim of human trafficking. Again, but not the children she was walking across the border with.

THESE PEOPLE AT DHS ARE LYING IDIOTS! They can't just admit they made a big mistake.
So are you really saying procedures need changed? What IF, she was being escorted by her brother for human trafficking and the brother knew noting about it, and the parents sold her off to receive payment when she arrived in the states? How many children's lives have they (CBP) saved by FOLLOWING procedures, especially for minors?....we will never know. Thank God they are doing their job.
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youthathletics wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 8:37 am
jhu72 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:25 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:35 am
CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:23 am 9 YO US citizen child, with valid ID, held 36 hours.

CBP officers accused her of lying about her identity. Officers told the girl she didn’t look like the girl in her passport card picture.

9 years old!

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/ ... 37381.html

We all know which "type" of US citizen the r's want to protect.

So proud to be an American....
Curious...what's it like being God CU88? :lol:
Hammer CBP for doing their job & hammer them again if they miss a child trafficked :
The girl showed NBC San Diego her passport card, which has a picture of her from when she was much younger.
Update your passport picture.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/9-yea ... spartandhp

Sure, update the passport. That does not however explain holding her for 30+ hours. They apparently believed her brother's passport and let him go along with the two other children. This is a major screw up by border agents. They have been accused of coercing a signed document from the brother stating the girl was his cousin not his sister. Now the excuse is they thought she might have been a victim of human trafficking. Again, but not the children she was walking across the border with.

THESE PEOPLE AT DHS ARE LYING IDIOTS! They can't just admit they made a big mistake.
So are you really saying procedures need changed? What IF, she was being escorted by her brother for human trafficking and the brother knew noting about it, and the parents sold her off to receive payment when she arrived in the states? How many children's lives have they (CBP) saved by FOLLOWING procedures, especially for minors?....we will never know. Thank God they are doing their job.
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CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:30 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:35 am
CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:23 am 9 YO US citizen child, with valid ID, held 36 hours.

CBP officers accused her of lying about her identity. Officers told the girl she didn’t look like the girl in her passport card picture.

9 years old!

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/ ... 37381.html

We all know which "type" of US citizen the r's want to protect.

So proud to be an American....
Curious...what's it like being God CU88? :lol:
Hammer CBP for doing their job & hammer them again if they miss a child trafficked :
The girl showed NBC San Diego her passport card, which has a picture of her from when she was much younger.
Update your passport picture.
Nice, blame the 9 yo for growing. US passport, for minors, is valid for 5 years.

Deplorable is as Deplorable does...
This is a strange story. This young girl, and her brother, cross the border everyday, to attend school? They live in a foreign country, but attend US schools? Do they pay tuition, for school choice? Don't our property taxes pay for school budgets? Strange story.
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10% or more of the gross domestic product of El Salvador, Honduras and Guartemala is from money sent back from illegal immigrants in the US.

Who do you think is creating the caravans?
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CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 4:30 pm
old salt wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 2:04 pm
youthathletics wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 11:35 am
CU88 wrote: Fri Mar 22, 2019 10:23 am 9 YO US citizen child, with valid ID, held 36 hours.

CBP officers accused her of lying about her identity. Officers told the girl she didn’t look like the girl in her passport card picture.

9 years old!

https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/local/ ... 37381.html

We all know which "type" of US citizen the r's want to protect.

So proud to be an American....
Curious...what's it like being God CU88? :lol:
Hammer CBP for doing their job & hammer them again if they miss a child trafficked :
The girl showed NBC San Diego her passport card, which has a picture of her from when she was much younger.
Update your passport picture.
Nice, blame the 9 yo for growing. US passport, for minors, is valid for 5 years.

Deplorable is as Deplorable does...
A mother sends her 2 kids with another adult at 4 a m, who then lets 4 kids, unaccompained by an adult, walk through the border check point.
CBP holds the 9 yr old girl, who does not look like her passport pic & has no adult to sponsor her or verify her id,.
It then takes an overstretched CBP time to verify her id & track down her mother in Mexico, ...& CBP are the bad guys.
Child abandonment by an irresponsible parent.

Deplorable = Open border cry babies who demonize CBP for doing their job, while following procedures to prevent child trafficking.
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Yup, that explains why the border agents made the brother sign a document claiming he was not her brother. It explains why the boy was threatened with jail if he didn't sign the document. :roll: Standard DHS procedure for solving trafficking cases. :lol:

The mother was not responsible for the release, the Mexican Consulate had to get involved.
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6ftstick wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:10 pm 10% or more of the gross domestic product of El Salvador, Honduras and Guartemala is from money sent back from illegal immigrants in the US.

Who do you think is creating the caravans?
Congress. And voters that don't hold their own parties accountable for fixing a 50 year old----and counting--- problem.

Trump and the R's were supposed to build a wall, and fix the open border that were the "fault of the Democrats".

And they did nothing. No bill. No debate. No plans. Nothing.

And you and the rest of the Republicans let 'em do it. You let 'em off the hook.

This is a political game, 6ft. Neither party wants to fix the problem. All they want is a campaign issue, and to continue their open border policy.

Do you think Trump hires illegals, and profits from the status quo? You bet he does. And you're letting him get away with it. And yep, the Dems in Congress profit, too.
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jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 11:56 am Yup, that explains why the border agents made the brother sign a document claiming he was not her brother. It explains why the boy was threatened with jail if he didn't sign the document. :roll: Standard DHS procedure for solving trafficking cases. :lol:

The mother was not responsible for the release, the Mexican Consulate had to get involved.
Good thing that irresponsible Mom didn't try that in the MD burbs or she'd be looking at child neglect charges.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... /25700823/

SILVER SPRING, Md. — Maryland parents accused of child neglect for letting their kids roam around their neighborhood had to retrieve them from the county's Children's Protective Services after police removed the youngsters from a park.

At about 4:55 p.m. ET Sunday, Montgomery County police received a call to check on the welfare of Danielle and Sasha Meitiv's children — Rafi, 10, and Dvora, 6 — at a park here. Officers found the children unattended and brought them to the agency as part of protocol, they said.

Montgomery County police and county Children's Protective Services are jointly investigating the Meitivs of Silver Spring for allowing their children to walk repeatedly around the neighborhood alone. The parents say they know where their children are but are allowing them independence.

Officers picked up the children about two blocks from home, Rafi said, telling them they would drop them off at home. Instead, the two sat in a patrol car for 2½ hours then were taken about 10 miles away to Children's Protective Services offices in Rockville, Md.
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:roll: :lol:

Nice try. The mother did not tell the kids to get out of the car and walk across the border so they would not be late. The family friend driving the car did. Mom was no where to be seen. Sure, go ahead and arrest these women. :lol:
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Real for sure bad hombres from south of the border! Florida is providing sanctuary. Where is the out cry? Why is the Governor of Florida not taking action?
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a fan wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:20 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:10 pm 10% or more of the gross domestic product of El Salvador, Honduras and Guartemala is from money sent back from illegal immigrants in the US.

Who do you think is creating the caravans?
Congress. And voters that don't hold their own parties accountable for fixing a 50 year old----and counting--- problem.

Trump and the R's were supposed to build a wall, and fix the open border that were the "fault of the Democrats".

And they did nothing. No bill. No debate. No plans. Nothing.

And you and the rest of the Republicans let 'em do it. You let 'em off the hook.

This is a political game, 6ft. Neither party wants to fix the problem. All they want is a campaign issue, and to continue their open border policy.

Do you think Trump hires illegals, and profits from the status quo? You bet he does. And you're letting him get away with it. And yep, the Dems in Congress profit, too.
I'm going to mention this to you again. For the last 2+ years the demcocrats, the press and the swamp harangued us that Trumps a Russian agent. He's going to be impeached and then sent to jail. Over 533,000 negative articles about Trump in two years. WHAT REPUBLICAN would support Trumps agenda?

How were republicans going to get anything done under that withering criticism. Hell even bright guys like you believed it. And spread the news.

Democrats don't want it fixed because its their key to the future. California WAS a republican stronghold. After two generations of open borders California is unequivocally democrat.

They want Texas and Florida to go the same way.
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72" Kindling:I'm going to mention this to you again. For the last 2+ years the demcocrats, the press and the swamp harangued us that Trumps a Russian agent. He's going to be impeached and then sent to jail. Over 533,000 negative articles about Trump in two years. WHAT REPUBLICAN would support Trumps agenda?

How were republicans going to get anything done under that withering criticism. Hell even bright guys like you believed it. And spread the news.

Democrats don't want it fixed because its their key to the future. California WAS a republican stronghold. After two generations of open borders California is unequivocally democrat.

They want Texas and Florida to go the same way.
Come on 72....You can do better.This silliness ain't going to get you the stand-up gigs your manager/mommy promised she'd get for you. The wording isn't subtle enough and your opening sounds too much like the rant of a raving imbecile.Tighten that up.

Neither do you want to be known on the comedy circuit as the "the Bloviating Quisling". Your comment that "the Democrats,the press and the swamp" are responsible for Trump's perceived woes is a bit disingenuous.And certainly disloyal to the cause.How could an inveterate Trump sniffer like you excoriate Trump's new and improved SWAMP? Then you go on to blame the "press" for giving Trump a kick in the nuts.Surely you don't believe the WSJ, the St. Joseph News-Press, the Santa Barbara News-Press, the Waxahachie Daily Light, the Times-Gazette (Hillsboro, Ohio),the Sheldon Adelson owned Las Vegas Review-Journal or the Antelope Valley Press, (Palmdale Valley CA),suddenly turned their backs on Trump?

I take personal exception that "Republicans won't/can't get anything done with the withering criticism". As life-long Republican I refuse to acquiesce to those "harangues" as you apparently have done.Tune out the extraneous noise. Only a gutless wimp would let themselves be rendered helpless by "criticism...withering or not". Toughen up!

BTW the most recent count of "negative articles is 541,209.Ya gotta keep up.
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jhu72 wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:46 pm :roll: :lol:

Nice try. The mother did not tell the kids to get out of the car and walk across the border so they would not be late. The family friend driving the car did. Mom was no where to be seen. Sure, go ahead and arrest these women. :lol:
The mother trusted her kids to an unreliable adult. I'm not for arresting the mom.
Nor am I for hammering CBP for doing their job to protect unaccompanied minors.
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6ftstick wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:47 pm I'm going to mention this to you again. For the last 2+ years the demcocrats, the press and the swamp harangued us that Trumps a Russian agent. He's going to be impeached and then sent to jail. Over 533,000 negative articles about Trump in two years. WHAT REPUBLICAN would support Trumps agenda?
Maybe you missed it, but Trump signed three major spending bills totaling $2.7 Trillion, and passed his tax cut bill with ease.

How is that possible if Trump can't get any support from Congressional Republicans?

Want to try again?
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a fan wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 10:59 pm
6ftstick wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 4:47 pm I'm going to mention this to you again. For the last 2+ years the demcocrats, the press and the swamp harangued us that Trumps a Russian agent. He's going to be impeached and then sent to jail. Over 533,000 negative articles about Trump in two years. WHAT REPUBLICAN would support Trumps agenda?
Maybe you missed it, but Trump signed three major spending bills totaling $2.7 Trillion, and passed his tax cut bill with ease.

How is that possible if Trump can't get any support from Congressional Republicans?

Want to try again?
I think you're smart enuff to understand the difference between supporting a SPENDING measure and actually doing something difficult.
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Really? So how come the wall wasn't included in any of those three spending bills?

Got an excuse for that one? Trump forgot? $2.7 Trillion in new, additional spending, and yet the wall isn't funded.

Boy, that's quite a coincidence.

They don't want to fix the problem. Wake up.
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a fan wrote: Mon Mar 25, 2019 12:20 pm
6ftstick wrote: Sat Mar 23, 2019 2:10 pm 10% or more of the gross domestic product of El Salvador, Honduras and Guartemala is from money sent back from illegal immigrants in the US.

Who do you think is creating the caravans?
Congress. And voters that don't hold their own parties accountable for fixing a 50 year old----and counting--- problem.

Trump and the R's were supposed to build a wall, and fix the open border that were the "fault of the Democrats".

And they did nothing. No bill. No debate. No plans. Nothing.

And you and the rest of the Republicans let 'em do it. You let 'em off the hook.

This is a political game, 6ft. Neither party wants to fix the problem. All they want is a campaign issue, and to continue their open border policy.

Do you think Trump hires illegals, and profits from the status quo? You bet he does. And you're letting him get away with it. And yep, the Dems in Congress profit, too.
WHy do you keep repeating that their was NO bill, debate or proposed legislation ? It is just untrue. AFAN, I mostly respect your opinion and viewpoints, but on this issue, you are just flat out wrong. Congress is very much like John Lovitz character in Big, fake busy (best stop watching infotainment, it's skewing reality )

These are some of the immigration related legislation......just since January 2019 (116th Congress)

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/ ... ation/6206

And the 115th US congress floated almost 400 bills/legislation related to "immigration"

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/ ... ngress=115


And of course, the BIG one, which I have linked and pointed out, over and over, the joke that is the TAATS system and tRump being a lameass about the failure of this bill: 41 pretend CONservatives voted against this bill. Why? Any of the infortainment programs invite the GOP no votes to explain? Whats that? A big NO. exactly

H.R. 4760: Securing America’s Future Act of 2018

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/115-2018/h282

This bill would make sweeping changes to laws governing legal and illegal immigration. For legal immigration, it would end the diversity program and chain migration by eliminating the visa lottery green card program and green card programs for relatives other than spouses and minor children. And it would increase immigration levels for skilled workers and creates an agricultural guest worker program.

The bill also would authorize construction of a border wall, add 5,000 Border Patrol Agents and 5,000 Customs and Border Protection (CBP) Officers, and allow the National Guard to provide aviation and intelligence support for border security operations.

The bill also would mandate E-Verify to ensure employers are only hiring legal workers.

It would authorize the Department of Justice (DOJ) to withhold law enforcement grants from sanctuary cities and allow victims to sue the sanctuary cities that release their attackers. Furthermore, the bill would permit the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) to detain dangerous illegal immigrants who cannot be removed and enhance criminal penalties for deported criminals who illegally return to the U.S.

It would allow for the detention of minors apprehended at the border with their parents.

Finally, individuals who received Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals would get a 3-year renewable legal status allowing them to work and travel overseas. No gang members or those with criminal convictions would be eligible for legal status.
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