Potential New Top 20

[fsclax]

In the time-out before, TV showed Petro giving instructions to the Cuse D. I'm curious what those of you who've played D thought of those. To me (just a fan, never a player) they sounded confusing, but I'd like to know what actual players think.

I thought that it was pretty good. He identified a couple possible scenarios involving picks, discussed how to deal with them, follow up actions, etc. I thought that he was methodical, encouraging and positive. I can't remember if he was correct in guessing what Cornell was going to do though.

[10stone5]

I thought it was a nice play by Kirst to draw that slide and then hockey assist the ball to Kelleher for the game winner.

[Jwoods371]

In the time-out before, TV showed Petro giving instructions to the Cuse D. I'm curious what those of you who've played D thought of those. To me (just a fan, never a player) they sounded confusing, but I'd like to know what actual players think.

I thought that it was pretty good. He identified a couple possible scenarios involving picks, discussed how to deal with them, follow up actions, etc. I thought that he was methodical, encouraging and positive. I can't remember if he was correct in guessing what Cornell was going to do though.

The second timeout, he made sense, almost called out exactly what Cornell would do. The first timeout was confusing as could be "we want to roll them back but don't let them roll back"

[FanLax Computer]

Unc 9 so stupid

[lorin]

Unc 9 so stupid

Wow it took a computer 3 days to come up with that. Sad

[FanLax Computer]

Wow it took a computer 3 days to come up with that. Sad

20 minutes to come up with this:

[joewillie78]

Can someone tell me if we have another of those ridiculous late Sunday night games tomorrow that prevents me from sending in my top 25 before sundown, or did the NCAA respect the holidays and not schedule a late game or any game tomorrow?
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Joewillie78

[calourie]

Can someone tell me if we have another of those ridiculous late Sunday night games tomorrow that prevents me from sending in my top 25 before sundown, or did the NCAA respect the holidays and not schedule a late game or any game tomorrow?
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Joewillie78

Bucknell-Holy Cross, Hampton-Jacksonville both at 12:00 tomorrow in case you think those two games might impact your poll

[10stone5]

Can someone tell me if we have another of those ridiculous late Sunday night games tomorrow that prevents me from sending in my top 25 before sundown, or did the NCAA respect the holidays and not schedule a late game or any game tomorrow?
GOBIGRED
Joewillie78

Get ‘er done

[joewillie78]

My new Top 25.
1. Maryland
2. Georgetown
3. Princeton
4. Rutgers
5. Cornell
6. Yale
7. Army
8. Jacksonville
9. Penn
10. Notre Dame
11. Duke
12. Virginia
13. Brown
14. Ohio State
15. Denver
16. St. Joseph's
17. Boston University
18. North Carolina
19. Harvard
20. Richmond
21. Villanova
22. Stony Brook
23. Utah
24. Lehigh
25. JHU
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Joewillie78

[AreaLax]

NCAA committee top ten as the start of yesterday
Maryland
Princeton
Georgetown
Cornell
Yale
Rutgers
Virginia
Ohio State
Penn
Jacksonville

[RURICK]

Rutgers' 2 losses are at #1 maryland and at #2 Princeton. Cornell got blown out by Army at Cornell yesterday and Rutgers beat Army early in the season. So, explain to me how Rutgers is behind Cornell and Yale at this point. I know the RPI is all that matters and the polls really are just for the fans. However, this is just stupid and this DOES affect the NCAA tourney seedings. If Rutgers lost by ONE goal to Army, they would not have been ranked anywhere in the top 15.

[RopeUnit]

Rutgers' 2 losses are at #1 maryland and at #2 Princeton. Cornell got blown out by Army at Cornell yesterday and Rutgers beat Army early in the season. So, explain to me how Rutgers is behind Cornell and Yale at this point. I know the RPI is all that matters and the polls really are just for the fans. However, this is just stupid and this DOES affect the NCAA tourney seedings. If Rutgers lost by ONE goal to Army, they would not have been ranked anywhere in the top 15.

I believe these were the rankings *before yesterdays games were played.

[joewillie78]

Rutgers' 2 losses are at #1 maryland and at #2 Princeton. Cornell got blown out by Army at Cornell yesterday and Rutgers beat Army early in the season. So, explain to me how Rutgers is behind Cornell and Yale at this point. I know the RPI is all that matters and the polls really are just for the fans. However, this is just stupid and this DOES affect the NCAA tourney seedings. If Rutgers lost by ONE goal to Army, they would not have been ranked anywhere in the top 15.

Yes, before yesterday's games and why I moved Rutgers to #4.
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Joewillie78

[HappyGilmore]

Rutgers' 2 losses are at #1 maryland and at #2 Princeton. Cornell got blown out by Army at Cornell yesterday and Rutgers beat Army early in the season. So, explain to me how Rutgers is behind Cornell and Yale at this point. I know the RPI is all that matters and the polls really are just for the fans. However, this is just stupid and this DOES affect the NCAA tourney seedings. If Rutgers lost by ONE goal to Army, they would not have been ranked anywhere in the top 15.

How did Rutgers do yesterday??

[joewillie78]

Rutgers' 2 losses are at #1 maryland and at #2 Princeton. Cornell got blown out by Army at Cornell yesterday and Rutgers beat Army early in the season. So, explain to me how Rutgers is behind Cornell and Yale at this point. I know the RPI is all that matters and the polls really are just for the fans. However, this is just stupid and this DOES affect the NCAA tourney seedings. If Rutgers lost by ONE goal to Army, they would not have been ranked anywhere in the top 15.

How did Rutgers do yesterday??

I believe they won a close game but I can't remember who they beat.
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Joewillie78

[Can Opener]

My new Top 25.
1. Maryland
2. Georgetown
3. Princeton
4. Rutgers
5. Cornell
6. Yale
7. Army
8. Jacksonville
9. Penn
10. Notre Dame
11. Duke
12. Virginia
13. Brown
14. Ohio State
15. Denver
16. St. Joseph's
17. Boston University
18. North Carolina
19. Harvard
20. Richmond
21. Villanova
22. Stony Brook
23. Utah
24. Lehigh
25. JHU
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Joewillie78

Thanks for doing the leg work, here, JW. I know that you have been a big believer in Brown all season and I get it that there are all sorts of overlapping wins and losses with common opponents at this point in the season, but I am struggling with how a 5-4 Penn team is ranked above 7-4 Brown when they lost to the Bears last weekend 12-10 in Philly. Penn has only two high quality wins (Duke & Cornell) while Brown has high quality recent wins over Penn and Yale. (I don't think that Penn's Harvard win is going to stand up as a high quality W.) For that matter, I am also not seeing 5-4 Notre Dame earning a spot above Brown. ND's wins are against 1-8 Detroit Mercy, 7-6 Michigan (losers of six straight), 4-8 Syracuse, 10-5 Duke and 4-8 Marquette. I have a little less of a gripe with 7-3 Yale being ranked seven spots above 7-4 Brown after having just been destroyed by the Bears 20-13, but there's a pretty good argument to be made that Brown deserves a higher ranking than the Elis.

Not trying to take pot shots at your poll since, unfortunately for Brown, it is likely to be close to the "real" polls this week. Just food for thought.

[joewillie78]

My new Top 25.
1. Maryland
2. Georgetown
3. Princeton
4. Rutgers
5. Cornell
6. Yale
7. Army
8. Jacksonville
9. Penn
10. Notre Dame
11. Duke
12. Virginia
13. Brown
14. Ohio State
15. Denver
16. St. Joseph's
17. Boston University
18. North Carolina
19. Harvard
20. Richmond
21. Villanova
22. Stony Brook
23. Utah
24. Lehigh
25. JHU
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Joewillie78

Thanks for doing the leg work, here, JW. I know that you have been a big believer in Brown all season and I get it that there are all sorts of overlapping wins and losses with common opponents at this point in the season, but I am struggling with how a 5-4 Penn team is ranked above 7-4 Brown when they lost to the Bears last weekend 12-10 in Philly. Penn has only two high quality wins (Duke & Cornell) while Brown has high quality recent wins over Penn and Yale. (I don't think that Penn's Harvard win is going to stand up as a high quality W.) For that matter, I am also not seeing 5-4 Notre Dame earning a spot above Brown. ND's wins are against 1-8 Detroit Mercy, 7-6 Michigan (losers of six straight), 4-8 Syracuse, 10-5 Duke and 4-8 Marquette. I have a little less of a gripe with 7-3 Yale being ranked seven spots above 7-4 Brown after having just been destroyed by the Bears 20-13, but there's a pretty good argument to be made that Brown deserves a higher ranking than the Elis.

Not trying to take pot shots at your poll since, unfortunately for Brown, it is likely to be close to the "real" polls this week. Just food for thought.

CO, what makes it tough is the head to head where Yale beat Brown, but Cornell beat Yale, but Penn beat Cornell and on and on.
Brown is the hottest and playing the best Lax in the Ivies right now and their game against my beloved Big Red next Saturday will pretty much determine both teams fate nationally and in the ILT.
So many teams are so close that doing these rankings is brutal.
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Joewillie78

[DALaxDad]

Feel free to leave the bears out of the top 20. They play better with a chip on their shoulders.

[Can Opener]

My new Top 25.
1. Maryland
2. Georgetown
3. Princeton
4. Rutgers
5. Cornell
6. Yale
7. Army
8. Jacksonville
9. Penn
10. Notre Dame
11. Duke
12. Virginia
13. Brown
14. Ohio State
15. Denver
16. St. Joseph's
17. Boston University
18. North Carolina
19. Harvard
20. Richmond
21. Villanova
22. Stony Brook
23. Utah
24. Lehigh
25. JHU
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Joewillie78

Thanks for doing the leg work, here, JW. I know that you have been a big believer in Brown all season and I get it that there are all sorts of overlapping wins and losses with common opponents at this point in the season, but I am struggling with how a 5-4 Penn team is ranked above 7-4 Brown when they lost to the Bears last weekend 12-10 in Philly. Penn has only two high quality wins (Duke & Cornell) while Brown has high quality recent wins over Penn and Yale. (I don't think that Penn's Harvard win is going to stand up as a high quality W.) For that matter, I am also not seeing 5-4 Notre Dame earning a spot above Brown. ND's wins are against 1-8 Detroit Mercy, 7-6 Michigan (losers of six straight), 4-8 Syracuse, 10-5 Duke and 4-8 Marquette. I have a little less of a gripe with 7-3 Yale being ranked seven spots above 7-4 Brown after having just been destroyed by the Bears 20-13, but there's a pretty good argument to be made that Brown deserves a higher ranking than the Elis.

Not trying to take pot shots at your poll since, unfortunately for Brown, it is likely to be close to the "real" polls this week. Just food for thought.

CO, what makes it tough is the head to head where Yale beat Brown, but Cornell beat Yale, but Penn beat Cornell and on and on.
Brown is the hottest and playing the best Lax in the Ivies right now and their game against my beloved Big Red next Saturday will pretty much determine both teams fate nationally and in the ILT.
So many teams are so close that doing these rankings is brutal.
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Joewillie78

This is probably a typo, but Brown beat Yale, not the other way around. Just seems a little weird that Brown beat Penn and Yale in the past 8 days but is ranked below both of them.

Yup, DA, Brown State likes playing with a chip on their shoulder.