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Richmond beat #7 UVA, #25 St. Bon, and #NR Towson and lost to #14 Duke, #10 J'ville, and #NR UNC. For obvious reasons, Richmond's position is less clear than Notre Dame's.
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A>B>C or C<B<A is the same thing. Just said differently. Makes sense that it wouldn't change the rankings.CU77 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:50 pmHere's an interesting question: there are many "closed loops" in the results where A > B > ... > C > A. What should happen to the ratings (any ratings, by any system) if we reverse the loop? That is, suppose that instead of A > B > ... > C > A, the results had been A < B < ... < C < A ? What should happen to the ratings?
KRACH's answer is nothing: reversing a loop does not change KRACH ratings at all.
The idea is that knowing A > B > C > A (the shortest loop) conveys no more or less information that A < B < C < A. We can't order these 3 teams based on these results; all we can do is say that their ratings should be closer to each other than they would be if those games had not been played at all.
The problem with A>B>C is... The rankings are rarely that linear. For D1 Men's Lacrosse, I might even say never.
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No, the comparison is
A beats B, B beats C, C beats A
vs
B beats A, C beats B, A beats C.
Re Richmond, I was using KRACH numbers as the ratings, which have UNC at #15.
A beats B, B beats C, C beats A
vs
B beats A, C beats B, A beats C.
Re Richmond, I was using KRACH numbers as the ratings, which have UNC at #15.
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A>B>C>A is the same as A>C>B>A. Just different values plugged in for the scenario. (Unless I'm missing something.)
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I don't know what you mean by "the same".
In the first case, in the one game between A and B, A won.
In the second case, in the one game between A and B, B won.
I call those outcomes "different".
In the first case, in the one game between A and B, A won.
In the second case, in the one game between A and B, B won.
I call those outcomes "different".
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Further, what justification exits to rank St. Joe's ahead of Villanova when St. Joe's lost to Delaware and Drexel, but Nova beat Delaware and Drexel?DU-fan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:37 amSt. Joe's is definitely a really good team. But, who is their biggest win? Hobart, Towson, Penn State? With losses to Drexel and Delaware, I think they are realistically in the 23-30 range, which is still very good in my opinion.joewillie78 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:17 amIf you look at my poll , I have them #13, and have pretty much listed them in my poll everyweek, and have been questioned on that a few times.
We will find out really how good they are when they face PENN later this month.
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None, any more.NovaLax17 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 16, 2022 10:26 pmFurther, what justification exits to rank St. Joe's ahead of Villanova when St. Joe's lost to Delaware and Drexel, but Nova beat Delaware and Drexel?DU-fan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 10:37 amSt. Joe's is definitely a really good team. But, who is their biggest win? Hobart, Towson, Penn State? With losses to Drexel and Delaware, I think they are realistically in the 23-30 range, which is still very good in my opinion.joewillie78 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 13, 2022 9:17 amIf you look at my poll , I have them #13, and have pretty much listed them in my poll everyweek, and have been questioned on that a few times.
We will find out really how good they are when they face PENN later this month.
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Both Zach Cole and Tucker Brown are injured.
Those are their two best players, Cole with something
potentially serious.
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KRACH top 25 after this morning's two games:
1. Maryland 11-0 3512
2. Princeton 9-2 1220
3. Georgetown 10-1 1182
4. Rutgers 11-2 933
5. Cornell 10-2 677
6. Virginia 9-3 537
7. Yale 7-3 504
8. Army 10-2 498
9. Jacksonville 12-2 433
10. OSU 8-4 411
11. Penn 5-4 389
12. Boston U 9-3 369
13. UNC 8-4 361
14. Harvard 7-3 347
15. Duke 10-5 326
16. Brown 7-4 313
17. St Josephs 10-2 293
18. Denver 7-5 269
19. Richmond 7-4 254
20. Notre Dame 5-4 247
21. Utah 7-3 243
22. Villanova 7-4 210
23. Lehigh 7-4 185
24. JHU 6-7 172
25. Bucknell 8-4 171
1. Maryland 11-0 3512
2. Princeton 9-2 1220
3. Georgetown 10-1 1182
4. Rutgers 11-2 933
5. Cornell 10-2 677
6. Virginia 9-3 537
7. Yale 7-3 504
8. Army 10-2 498
9. Jacksonville 12-2 433
10. OSU 8-4 411
11. Penn 5-4 389
12. Boston U 9-3 369
13. UNC 8-4 361
14. Harvard 7-3 347
15. Duke 10-5 326
16. Brown 7-4 313
17. St Josephs 10-2 293
18. Denver 7-5 269
19. Richmond 7-4 254
20. Notre Dame 5-4 247
21. Utah 7-3 243
22. Villanova 7-4 210
23. Lehigh 7-4 185
24. JHU 6-7 172
25. Bucknell 8-4 171
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brown state firmly in the dance as of today. what a couple of weeks for them.
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Wow.CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:45 pm Yes, Brown is up to RPI #9:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Odd that Penn, who only make the Ivies with significant help from other teams over the next couple of weekends, is @ #5 in the RPI. I guess that'll drop over the next couple of weeks, but I assume not very far. Are they a near-lock to make the NCAAs, even if they don't make the ILT?
Seems absurd.
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penn's sos is off the charts. they are #1 sos, unc is #3. they are .065 higher in rpi even tho their record is worse than unc's. absurd if those #s are accurate.ICGrad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:56 pmWow.CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:45 pm Yes, Brown is up to RPI #9:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Odd that Penn, who only make the Ivies with significant help from other teams over the next couple of weekends, is @ #5 in the RPI. I guess that'll drop over the next couple of weeks, but I assume not very far. Are they a near-lock to make the NCAAs, even if they don't make the ILT?
Seems absurd.
their schedule will carry them.
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That’s the question. All year it has looked like 3 and maybe 4 Ivys in the NCAA. But would they put in a team that doesn’t make the IL tourney? It is very possible one of the teams that seemed close to a lock for NCAA all year will miss ILT. What happens then?ICGrad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:56 pmWow.CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:45 pm Yes, Brown is up to RPI #9:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Odd that Penn, who only make the Ivies with significant help from other teams over the next couple of weekends, is @ #5 in the RPI. I guess that'll drop over the next couple of weeks, but I assume not very far. Are they a near-lock to make the NCAAs, even if they don't make the ILT?
Seems absurd.
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It’s possible. Not all the ILT teams are necessarily a lock for an at large.pcowlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:12 pmThat’s the question. All year it has looked like 3 and maybe 4 Ivys in the NCAA. But would they put in a team that doesn’t make the IL tourney? It is very possible one of the teams that seemed close to a lock for NCAA all year will miss ILT. What happens then?ICGrad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:56 pmWow.CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:45 pm Yes, Brown is up to RPI #9:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Odd that Penn, who only make the Ivies with significant help from other teams over the next couple of weekends, is @ #5 in the RPI. I guess that'll drop over the next couple of weeks, but I assume not very far. Are they a near-lock to make the NCAAs, even if they don't make the ILT?
Seems absurd.
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For the past few years or so, the ACC has placed all 5 teams in the tourney. Why not 5 Ivies this year based on the strength of the conference?pcowlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:12 pmThat’s the question. All year it has looked like 3 and maybe 4 Ivys in the NCAA. But would they put in a team that doesn’t make the IL tourney? It is very possible one of the teams that seemed close to a lock for NCAA all year will miss ILT. What happens then?ICGrad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:56 pmWow.CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:45 pm Yes, Brown is up to RPI #9:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Odd that Penn, who only make the Ivies with significant help from other teams over the next couple of weekends, is @ #5 in the RPI. I guess that'll drop over the next couple of weeks, but I assume not very far. Are they a near-lock to make the NCAAs, even if they don't make the ILT?
Seems absurd.
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I think Army win ends your chances of getting five teams in, could be wrong, plus ACC will get 4 teams inChousnake wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:47 pmFor the past few years or so, the ACC has placed all 5 teams in the tourney. Why not 5 Ivies this year based on the strength of the conference?pcowlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:12 pmThat’s the question. All year it has looked like 3 and maybe 4 Ivys in the NCAA. But would they put in a team that doesn’t make the IL tourney? It is very possible one of the teams that seemed close to a lock for NCAA all year will miss ILT. What happens then?ICGrad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:56 pmWow.CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:45 pm Yes, Brown is up to RPI #9:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Odd that Penn, who only make the Ivies with significant help from other teams over the next couple of weekends, is @ #5 in the RPI. I guess that'll drop over the next couple of weeks, but I assume not very far. Are they a near-lock to make the NCAAs, even if they don't make the ILT?
Seems absurd.
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Agreed. Posters have been saying that the Ivy v Ivy internecine warfare will raise all teams' RPI, and it seems to be true. I don't really have a dog in the hunt, but would love to see Brown in the NCAAs.Chousnake wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 8:47 pmFor the past few years or so, the ACC has placed all 5 teams in the tourney. Why not 5 Ivies this year based on the strength of the conference?pcowlax wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:12 pmThat’s the question. All year it has looked like 3 and maybe 4 Ivys in the NCAA. But would they put in a team that doesn’t make the IL tourney? It is very possible one of the teams that seemed close to a lock for NCAA all year will miss ILT. What happens then?ICGrad wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:56 pmWow.CU77 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 17, 2022 5:45 pm Yes, Brown is up to RPI #9:
http://college.laxpower2.com/menx/rpi01.php
Odd that Penn, who only make the Ivies with significant help from other teams over the next couple of weekends, is @ #5 in the RPI. I guess that'll drop over the next couple of weeks, but I assume not very far. Are they a near-lock to make the NCAAs, even if they don't make the ILT?
Seems absurd.